Topic: OP+ 3.3 Corrections Thread

[Age]

  I mentioned about the phasers in OP+3.3.These phasers are on F-CX the port and starboard ones the arc doesn't seem correct.The arc is for port isrs and for starboard ls is this correct.I thought that is should be frrx for port and fllx for starbaord is this right or not.This the way it is on all Federation CAs how com not this one?Please check it out FireSoul to see if the arcs are correct.Thanks and your ship are <cool>  

[FireSoul]

Quote:
  I mentioned about the phasers in OP+3.3.These phasers are on F-CX the port and starboard ones the arc doesn't seem correct.The arc is for port isrs and for starboard ls is this correct.I thought that is should be frrx for port and fllx for starbaord is this right or not.This the way it is on all Federation CAs how com not this one?Please check it out FireSoul to see if the arcs are correct.Thanks and your ship are <cool>  

The F-CX really does have LS/RS and FH phasers.
-- Luc

[FireSoul]

I was browsing through model Y1 as bedtime eading material.. when I noticed this:

Quote:

(YFP9.0) TYPE-D TORPEDO: Not invented until Y165.
(YFP10.0) PLASMA RACK: Not invented until Y165.

There's a couple of other surprises, such as the plasma shotgun not being invented until Y168, but there's nothing I can do about that. This however, I can look into.

-- Luc

[DH123]

Do any Plasma-D ships come out before 2265?   That is when the KRC comes out.
 

[FireSoul]

Pirates aside.. some bases.. some FRDs.. and some Monitors..

R-SNE (Y162) -- PLaD detected before Y165 -- mount: 39
R-SNE (Y162) -- PLaD detected before Y165 -- mount: 42
R-KRT (Y162) -- PLaD detected before Y165 -- mount: 48
R-KRTc1 (Y162) -- PLaD detected before Y165 -- mount: 48
R-KRTc2 (Y162) -- PLaD detected before Y165 -- mount: 48


So.. that raises the question: what to do about these. Unfortunately, I'm at work, but it may be worthwhile for these ships to be checked in the MSC, and they are truly from Y162, to report them to ADB.

[FireSoul]

I had the GF check the rulebooks.

good: SNE's date is 172. That'll have to be simply changed to be fixed.
bad: KRT's YFA is 162. (R4.33?)

.. will have to look at the books myself to confirm this. If this is true, then I think I may have found something to report back to ADB as an error.

-- Luc

Edit: Confirmed. I just reported this via the ADB Discussion Boards (Rules Questions/Ships Questions). Is there a better to do so?

[FireSoul]

bump because I need and use this.

-- Luc

[Tulwar]

   Found something on the Lyran shiplist: The L-DAxPFT, LDR Auxiliary PF Tender has no PFs!

[FireSoul]

  Found something on the Lyran shiplist: The L-DAxPFT, LDR Auxiliary PF Tender has no PFs!

Interesting. Thanks. I'll check it out.

[Max Power]

Found that there is no E4R in the shiplist. If you care (?).

[Mace]

Found that there is no E4R in the shiplist. If you care (?).

Such a Blasphemy!!!  Firesoul is definately due a Flogging for that one!!!!!   

[FPF-DieHard]

Federation BCH ships have no entry in Model.siz.   The models are HUGE compared to other BCHs

I've naggged you on this already, just posting so you don't forget.

[FireSoul]

Federation BCH ships have no entry in Model.siz.   The models are HUGE compared to other BCHs

I've naggged you on this already, just posting so you don't forget.

yeah yeah yeah. ~

[Nomad]

Klink BT ? not balanced at 192.

Compare to Klink TGT  at 190.
The BT has 2 more power  4 more distrupter3  2 extra drone racks and plus 2 power for each forward shield.

This baby also has 120 extra drones. In early there isn?t a ship that can stand up to it.
It also takes about 310 point of damage to destroy this ship.

They bvp of this ship should be increased 10-30 points.

For example:
Compare E4 to E4g
E4G has 1 point more of power 2 extra disrupter ones and 1 drone rack and a 19 point bvp increase. 

[FireSoul]

Klink BT ? not balanced at 192.

Compare to Klink TGT  at 190.
The BT has 2 more power  4 more distrupter3  2 extra drone racks and plus 2 power for each forward shield.

This baby also has 120 extra drones. In early there isn?t a ship that can stand up to it.
It also takes about 310 point of damage to destroy this ship.

They bvp of this ship should be increased 10-30 points.

For example:
Compare E4 to E4g
E4G has 1 point more of power 2 extra disrupter ones and 1 drone rack and a 19 point bvp increase. 

I'll have to look at the klingon tugs and recalculate the BPVs.

[Bonk]

Any chance we could get a shortcut to the uninstaller on the start menu for the next version? I have a tendency to forget to check the control panel add/remove programs dialog to see if its installed, it helps me to have that reminder on the start menu. (I know, I know - memory like a sieve...)

[FireSoul]

Any chance we could get a shortcut to the uninstaller on the start menu for the next version? I have a tendency to forget to check the control panel add/remove programs dialog to see if its installed, it helps me to have that reminder on the start menu. (I know, I know - memory like a sieve...)

I dunno if this is a good idea. Once a person uninstall the game, OP+ becomes crippled, itself.. and the uninstall becomes useless.

[FireSoul]

Klink BT ? not balanced at 192.

Compare to Klink TGT  at 190.
The BT has 2 more power  4 more distrupter3  2 extra drone racks and plus 2 power for each forward shield.

This baby also has 120 extra drones. In early there isn?t a ship that can stand up to it.
It also takes about 310 point of damage to destroy this ship.

They bvp of this ship should be increased 10-30 points.

For example:
Compare E4 to E4g
E4G has 1 point more of power 2 extra disrupter ones and 1 drone rack and a 19 point bvp increase. 

I have your answer. It's the economic cost (EPV) of having a tug with troop transport pods that come up to 190. The BPV itself is around.. 145 for the unrefitted tug + pod.
This is therefore accurate data. Sorry.

[Bonk]

Any chance we could get a shortcut to the uninstaller on the start menu for the next version? I have a tendency to forget to check the control panel add/remove programs dialog to see if its installed, it helps me to have that reminder on the start menu. (I know, I know - memory like a sieve...)

I dunno if this is a good idea. Once a person uninstall the game, OP+ becomes crippled, itself.. and the uninstall becomes useless.

Won't the entry in the add/remove programs dialog remain anyway? In one case you have an extra entry in the add/remove programs and in the other just an extra shortcut as well? (That can be easily deleted...) Anyhoo, no biggie, just a thought, I proposed using installers in the first place because I was lazy and would forget, lol... I swap mods so frequently I just have to remember to check the add/remove programs dialog. I've enjoyed OP+ since the start, so you go with what makes sense for you.

P.S. it occurs to me that usually when you uninstall OP, files not created in the original installation are not removed, the uninstaller will say could not remove folder blah blah... and so I figure our NSIS uninstallers and installed files will remain functional to be uninstalled as long as the user does not delete the OP folder manually (which often occurs and is suggested), I'm just more likely to remember to uninstall a mod first if its on my start menu to remind me though it could produce a redundant short in the above situation... to be honest I've been running on the same single OP installation for at least two years now uncorrupted, I haven't tested the situation by uninstalling OP... oh the horror!, sacrilege! 

[FPF-DieHard]

R-KVL.   I think the second R-Torp is on a "phantom" hardpoint and does not show up.  This is the case on the LB5 list (based off of OP+ 3.0).   I check the 3.3 list, and the hardpoint layout seems to be the same.