Topic: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy  (Read 11451 times)

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Stormbringer

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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #120 on: May 21, 2004, 11:56:26 pm »
It is possible that a force deadening mechanism or creature could be used. Like the ysilamiri from the thrawn series.

Tremok

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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #121 on: May 22, 2004, 12:52:54 am »
I hope not. I don't know if I can take another midichlorian like debacle.

Also. People, if your going to post spoilers then post spoiler warnings.  
 
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Stormbringer

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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #122 on: May 22, 2004, 12:59:22 am »
But I'm not because far as I know no one has seen the movie or a script. This was just speculation. We know or think he dies because of what was in the first trilogy about the jedi purge with just three or four jedi or sith apparently surviving. yoda, ben, darth, the emperor. Novels (questionable as to whether they were cannon or not) had a few others.
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Stormbringer

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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #123 on: May 22, 2004, 01:12:17 am »
Yep the midicalorians sucked some of the life out of the mythos. The ysilamiri did not at least not to an appreciable degree. And with force crystals used to make sabers that interact with the force it would be logical that a dampening field could be engineered. The technology could be lost with the jedi purge and holocrons.

Tremok

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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #124 on: May 22, 2004, 01:52:08 am »
Praxis did not seem to post his information in tones of speculation to me. I assumed he got his data form the Star Wars insider thing or from a website or person who has it.  Regardless, I just ask that we be careful.... I cannot count how many times my supsense was damaged to some degree by persons who posted spoilers without spoiler warnings. It has become somewhat of a pet peeve of mine.

This page helps me deal with midicalorians. Lucas kept it all vague enough that I could tolerate it, though I still don't like it. I have a bigger problem with force machines/dampeners. They just don't sit well with me. That machines or animals could deny or manipulate the force, it's will, it's influence... I just don't like it.

As for lightsabers... I always thought they were ordinary devices that only a Jedi could effectively wield.  
 
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Stormbringer

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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #125 on: May 22, 2004, 09:36:23 am »
A jedi can only build a saber upon reaching a certain level of attainment with the force and is not considered a jedi unti he or she does so. The crystals used are force sensitive. This is all just semi-cannon from novels and from WEG which is a primary research source for nearly all the novel writers.  
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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #126 on: May 22, 2004, 10:41:43 am »
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As for TalonClaw's claim that the lightsaber duels needed to go on longer- those things take work and TREMENDOUS amounts of physical exertion. Those guys dance around for WEEKS to give you a five minuet fight scene. And you know that anything longer would be hard to believe. Swordfights (and I'm therefore assuming lightsaber fights) seldom last more than a few minutes... mostly they are measured in seconds. Even a really well-paired fencing duel is often over before you can really tell who scored a touch.  




I've seen one-on-one fights in the SCA last 15-20 minutes.  I've particpated in some that lasted 10.  




Yes, but notice how fast the Jedi fight?  The actors fight for MUCH longer, and it is played in fast-motion on the big screen.

Corbomite

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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #127 on: May 22, 2004, 10:45:34 am »
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As for TalonClaw's claim that the lightsaber duels needed to go on longer- those things take work and TREMENDOUS amounts of physical exertion. Those guys dance around for WEEKS to give you a five minuet fight scene. And you know that anything longer would be hard to believe. Swordfights (and I'm therefore assuming lightsaber fights) seldom last more than a few minutes... mostly they are measured in seconds. Even a really well-paired fencing duel is often over before you can really tell who scored a touch.  




I've seen one-on-one fights in the SCA last 15-20 minutes.  I've particpated in some that lasted 10.  




Yes, but notice how fast the Jedi fight?  The actors fight for MUCH longer, and it is played in fast-motion on the big screen.  




I heard that Yoda does all his own stunt work.

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Re: Fire George Lucas that would be blasphemy
« Reply #128 on: May 23, 2004, 01:38:18 am »
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As for TalonClaw's claim that the lightsaber duels needed to go on longer- those things take work and TREMENDOUS amounts of physical exertion. Those guys dance around for WEEKS to give you a five minuet fight scene. And you know that anything longer would be hard to believe. Swordfights (and I'm therefore assuming lightsaber fights) seldom last more than a few minutes... mostly they are measured in seconds. Even a really well-paired fencing duel is often over before you can really tell who scored a touch.  




I've seen one-on-one fights in the SCA last 15-20 minutes.  I've particpated in some that lasted 10.  




Yes, but notice how fast the Jedi fight?  The actors fight for MUCH longer, and it is played in fast-motion on the big screen.  




As I said...Fencing is real fighting (some will say that it's merely a touch, and to some degree that is true...however, it's where it touches...and in practice, when really doing this...it probably WILL leave bruises...so it has some strength to it...we're taught to stab through the object, even if with a blunt edge it will not.  Still, believe it or not, there are some that actually practice with real blades...rather dangerous and usually quite bloody if you ask me, where you hit in fencing typically is targetting for what could be considered the vitals for the type of weapon you are holding overall)...much of SCA is just people who have NO clue as too what they are doing...playing around...course 90% of the people in the Middle ages had less training when in battle Soooo...

I suppose it is rather realistic to that extent...and those more experienced of course WILL do better, and the artform of Western Battle arts does have SOME merit...of course that only applies to those in Europe I would imagine...

On the otherhand, I'd put a world class fencer against the SCA's best anyday...and in a fair fight...I'd bet on the fencer...100% of the time.

Problem with the starwars battles...their so obviously stage fighting...that it's obvious that a Jedi would be killed in less than a minute by someone who REALLY knew how to wield a weapon.

Perhaps that's why the battles are so short...the Jedi AND the Sith aren't really all that skilled (except when a sith fights a computer animated green elf fairie that looks so hilarious...I think most fencers would either fall down laughing and be killed, OR take a few steps into an empty area devoid of objects for the green jumper to jump off of) so obviously their battles can't be that long...

 
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