Topic: Scenerio run (Read 1657 times)

Toasty0 · « **on:** May 17, 2004, 08:45:08 pm »

In the original SFB series there was a scenerio in which the Hydran Kingdom--cornered in the lost worlds--make a run through Klingon space in a desperate attempt to reach Federation space and get them to join in the general war. Does anyone remember the name of that scenerio?

Thanks.

Best,
Jerry

Khalee · « **Reply #1 on:** May 17, 2004, 09:09:55 pm »

I believe it was just called the Hydran Expedition.But im looking

Cleaven · « **Reply #2 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:12:33 am »

This is a section of the of quoted Captains Log history:

THE TWO-FRONT WAR, Y169

The Hydrans attacked the Lyran border in October Y169 with their Home and Second Fleets. The limited operation was intended to recover disputed territory and to show good faith toward the Kzintis (under their mutual defense pact). Their attack was a carefully planned "time on target" strike, with selected Lyran ships targeted for quick destruction. One Hydran force attempted to slip through LDR space to outflank the Lyran defenses, but the LDR forced the Hydrans back to the border. This incident, the first combat action of the Hydran assault, gave the Lyrans enough advanced warning to avoid the disaster that could have resulted.
The Hydrans made a strategic mistake, however, in sending their Expeditionary Fleet into Klingon territory in a somewhat curious effort to reach the Federation. This involved the Klingons (who would just as soon have concentrated on capturing the Kzinti capital) in the war against the Hydrans and diverted power away from the Lyrans.
Had the Hydrans sent the Expeditionary Fleet against the Lyrans instead, they very likely would have conquered most of the Enemy's Blood Duchy while the Klingons simply guarded their own border and watched. (At least until the Kzinti capital fell, at which point the Klingons would doubtless have helped the Lyrans recover their own territory in exchange for a share of Hydran space.)
In the event, the Expeditionary Fleet was destroyed before it reached Federation space, and the Klingons turned their attention toward the Hydrans. Strategically, the Hydran error may have unwittingly saved the Kzinti capital, and the diversion of Coalition resources to attack the Hydrans may have been one of the first of many small decisions that would ultimately cost the Coalition their long-sought victory.

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Byzantine · « **Reply #3 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:22:46 am »

I do not know if it apeared there first, but it is in Captain's Log #2. Kiind of a hybrid campaign. It uses the Federation Space (precursor to F&E) map for strategic movement and then SFB for tactical combat. Khalee has the right name -'The Expedition' or 'The Hydran Expedition' both turn up in different sources. A google on 'hydran expedition' gets only about 8 results so there may be another name for it too. The Starfleet expedition to try to reach the Hydrans was 'Operation Hydra'.

Khalee · « **Reply #4 on:** May 18, 2004, 07:01:22 am »

Small wonder I did not find it, looking thru everything else but captains logs.

Toasty0 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 18, 2004, 10:15:30 am »

Cleaven,

Thanks, but I was referring to something predating the Kazinti.

Byz and Kahlee,

Thanks. That osunds like it.

Best,
Jerry

Byzantine · « **Reply #6 on:** May 18, 2004, 04:41:50 pm »

Cleaven has it too. Y169 is correct for The Expedition and all the surounding material is right. The Expedition is just not given its formal name and shows up as 'The Hydrans made a strategic mistake, however, in sending their Expeditionary Fleet into Klingon territory in a somewhat curious effort to reach the Federation'.

There is no predating the Kzin(Mirak) - one of the first 5 races in the game when it was in pocket edition.

Toasty0 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 18, 2004, 05:03:06 pm »

My error then. I remeber it as a battle between the Klinks and Hydran.

My apologies Cleaven

Best,
Jerry

Byzantine · « **Reply #8 on:** May 18, 2004, 05:57:44 pm »

Sorry, I wasn't clear either. The actual scenario as first presented IS Hydran and Klingon only - with a minimum of exposition. The stuff Cleaven posted is 'general background' for the incident that I believe comes from later SFB canon sources (including a later issue of Captain's Log I guess).
I have to admit sketchiness on this stuff. I still have my SFB pocket edition, FedSpace, Fed&Empire, and first several Cap Log editions, but then I was out of it all till SFC I showed up. And never multiplayered till SFC3.

Toasty0 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 17, 2004, 08:45:08 pm »

In the original SFB series there was a scenerio in which the Hydran Kingdom--cornered in the lost worlds--make a run through Klingon space in a desperate attempt to reach Federation space and get them to join in the general war. Does anyone remember the name of that scenerio?

Thanks.

Best,
Jerry

Khalee · « **Reply #10 on:** May 17, 2004, 09:09:55 pm »

I believe it was just called the Hydran Expedition.But im looking

Cleaven · « **Reply #11 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:12:33 am »

This is a section of the of quoted Captains Log history:

THE TWO-FRONT WAR, Y169

The Hydrans attacked the Lyran border in October Y169 with their Home and Second Fleets. The limited operation was intended to recover disputed territory and to show good faith toward the Kzintis (under their mutual defense pact). Their attack was a carefully planned "time on target" strike, with selected Lyran ships targeted for quick destruction. One Hydran force attempted to slip through LDR space to outflank the Lyran defenses, but the LDR forced the Hydrans back to the border. This incident, the first combat action of the Hydran assault, gave the Lyrans enough advanced warning to avoid the disaster that could have resulted.
The Hydrans made a strategic mistake, however, in sending their Expeditionary Fleet into Klingon territory in a somewhat curious effort to reach the Federation. This involved the Klingons (who would just as soon have concentrated on capturing the Kzinti capital) in the war against the Hydrans and diverted power away from the Lyrans.
Had the Hydrans sent the Expeditionary Fleet against the Lyrans instead, they very likely would have conquered most of the Enemy's Blood Duchy while the Klingons simply guarded their own border and watched. (At least until the Kzinti capital fell, at which point the Klingons would doubtless have helped the Lyrans recover their own territory in exchange for a share of Hydran space.)
In the event, the Expeditionary Fleet was destroyed before it reached Federation space, and the Klingons turned their attention toward the Hydrans. Strategically, the Hydran error may have unwittingly saved the Kzinti capital, and the diversion of Coalition resources to attack the Hydrans may have been one of the first of many small decisions that would ultimately cost the Coalition their long-sought victory.

Are you after more information than this?

Byzantine · « **Reply #12 on:** May 18, 2004, 02:22:46 am »

I do not know if it apeared there first, but it is in Captain's Log #2. Kiind of a hybrid campaign. It uses the Federation Space (precursor to F&E) map for strategic movement and then SFB for tactical combat. Khalee has the right name -'The Expedition' or 'The Hydran Expedition' both turn up in different sources. A google on 'hydran expedition' gets only about 8 results so there may be another name for it too. The Starfleet expedition to try to reach the Hydrans was 'Operation Hydra'.

Khalee · « **Reply #13 on:** May 18, 2004, 07:01:22 am »

Small wonder I did not find it, looking thru everything else but captains logs.

Toasty0 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 18, 2004, 10:15:30 am »

Cleaven,

Thanks, but I was referring to something predating the Kazinti.

Byz and Kahlee,

Thanks. That osunds like it.

Best,
Jerry

Byzantine · « **Reply #15 on:** May 18, 2004, 04:41:50 pm »

Cleaven has it too. Y169 is correct for The Expedition and all the surounding material is right. The Expedition is just not given its formal name and shows up as 'The Hydrans made a strategic mistake, however, in sending their Expeditionary Fleet into Klingon territory in a somewhat curious effort to reach the Federation'.

There is no predating the Kzin(Mirak) - one of the first 5 races in the game when it was in pocket edition.

Toasty0 · « **Reply #16 on:** May 18, 2004, 05:03:06 pm »

My error then. I remeber it as a battle between the Klinks and Hydran.

My apologies Cleaven

Best,
Jerry

Byzantine · « **Reply #17 on:** May 18, 2004, 05:57:44 pm »

Sorry, I wasn't clear either. The actual scenario as first presented IS Hydran and Klingon only - with a minimum of exposition. The stuff Cleaven posted is 'general background' for the incident that I believe comes from later SFB canon sources (including a later issue of Captain's Log I guess).
I have to admit sketchiness on this stuff. I still have my SFB pocket edition, FedSpace, Fed&Empire, and first several Cap Log editions, but then I was out of it all till SFC I showed up. And never multiplayered till SFC3.

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