Topic: Recommended Linux program? (Read 5142 times)

Baker · « **on:** May 08, 2004, 09:32:17 pm »

Ok, I'm going to vinally begin mucking about with Linux. My intentions are to have a dual boot system with Free Dos and Linux. The reason for using Dos is to get some dos based games working (Aces of the pacific and Aces over Europe being my main two) that I have so far been unable to get working under winxp (notorious memory problems). The reason for using linux is because I am interested in testing out its abilities and to simply teach myself the workings of another os. Now, dos wise I don't have much choice, but linux I do.

For those linux experts on this forum, I ask you, which is the best linux for beginners. I have been told Mandrake. I have read this forum about Linux http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=311194&highlight=linux+windows (sorry but you'll have to copy address I think). Any advice will be greatly appreciated thanks.

Strafer · « **Reply #1 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:26:29 pm »

I work for Xandros personally, and for ease of use/installation it ranks up there....

Praxis · « **Reply #2 on:** May 09, 2004, 12:07:45 am »

I have RH Linux, very complicated. I've heard good things about Xandros.

I want to get WineX working so I can play SFC3 in Linux...

Baker · « **Reply #3 on:** May 09, 2004, 03:06:21 am »

I'm going to try Mandrake since my brother has used it. THanks anyway for the advice.

Praxis · « **Reply #4 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:31:45 am »

Get him to help. It's good to have someone who knows how to use Linux around.

I've been trying to figure it out for a while. I can surf the web, do office work, etc etc, all very easily, but when it comes to installing and compiling programs, I'm stumped.

I finally figured out that I don't have GCC installed, but everywhere I download it I get it in source code!

IKV Nemesis D7L · « **Reply #5 on:** May 09, 2004, 12:59:55 pm »

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Get him to help. It's good to have someone who knows how to use Linux around.

I've been trying to figure it out for a while. I can surf the web, do office work, etc etc, all very easily, but when it comes to installing and compiling programs, I'm stumped.

I finally figured out that I don't have GCC installed, but everywhere I download it I get it in source code!

I am not familiar with Redhat but I suspect that you can boot off your installlation CD and choose an update or upgrade mode and in that mode you will find a binary GCC that you can install. It has been that way with every type of linux I have experimented with.

Not to be insulting because the books are very good but have you considered getting a Redhat for Dummies book? It should walk you through adding / removing software especially off the installation CDs.

Praxis · « **Reply #6 on:** May 09, 2004, 03:25:43 pm »

Yeah, I finally figured that out, then realized it was on disk 2, which I can't seem to find

Demandred · « **Reply #7 on:** May 09, 2004, 08:01:19 pm »

If you turn out not to like Mandrake, I've heard that SuSE is very good for beginners.

Lepton1 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 09, 2004, 08:24:39 pm »

While I applaud your looking into linux, I might suggest that you look into some sort of DOS emulator that runs in Windows to run those games. I saw one demostrated not too long ago on Tech TV.

As for messing with Linux, don't forget about Knoppix, Flak??, etc, that basically run off your CD drive and don't install anything on your hard drive. Then of course you can decide if you want to partition your drive and do an actual install.

Baker · « **Reply #9 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:01:46 pm »

For dos emulation, I have a program called Dos emu which runs under linux. However, I believe that learning to work with Linux is my top priority. I actually got 4 books of my brother to help me, since my knowledge is limited to configuring windows to run games.

Praxis · « **Reply #10 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:19:32 pm »

Why would you want a DOS emulator??

I would take Wine and WineX any day over a DOS emulator.

Wine loads up your Windows APIs and lets you run almost any Windows program in Linux, including *some* 3d games.

WineX is a specially modified version of Wine that lets you install, organize, and run Windows games in Linux....several hundred have been tested and work, including Jedi Knight2 (probably Academy by now, haven't been checking) and I think SFC2 (not sure)...

Praxis · « **Reply #12 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:42:59 pm »

He works for TG?

Ask him if he can get me the binaries without me having to compile from source or pay money!

Nyahaha! (I've been trying to get GCC working with no luck till I find my RH disk 2)

Baker · « **Reply #13 on:** May 09, 2004, 10:54:04 pm »

Because right now I'm going to be experimenting with Linux on another machine, and so if something horrible happens, I still have this machine to work with. For this machine, I'm going to keep XP until such times as I have full confidence in my linux operating abilities. So I don't need a windows emulator but I still have some dos games that I'd like to play hence the dos emulator.

Baker · « **Reply #14 on:** May 09, 2004, 11:27:00 pm »

Ok, just tried to boot up Knoppix 3.3 and my monitor screen picture is distored (like when its running beyond its resolution). Not sure what the problem is but since I still have XP on the drive (its booting from cd which I hoped I could get around by doing an actual install to harddrive). So far so good.

Praxis · « **Reply #15 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:19:44 am »

Likely it doesn't have the built in drivers for your system.

I'd recommend you install dual boot with Windows XP, then install video drivers from command line. I'd recommend you get a Linux geek with you.

Basicly, I installed a dual boot with RH Linux 9 and XP. My XP partition was NTFS instead of FAT32 (therefore unreadable by Linux unless you get a kernel patch), so I had to download the video drivers in windows and burn them to a CD. Then I went to Linux, went to command line, and mounted the CD ROM and installed the drivers.

Baker · « **Reply #16 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:38:43 am »

Thanks but I was able to install Mandrake 9. While older then Knoppix, it is still a trial run for me so it is good enough for the task. Having said that, I will most definately look into upgrading to Knoppix in time should me experiences with Linux prove to be quite good. Since I have been able to install a linux OS after two attempts, it has already pulled ahead of XP.

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #17 on:** May 10, 2004, 08:19:11 am »

In terms of ease of setup and admin, SUsE is very easy. It was every bit as easy as setting up a Windows system and it even set up the dual-boot for me.

Baker · « **Reply #18 on:** May 08, 2004, 09:32:17 pm »

Ok, I'm going to vinally begin mucking about with Linux. My intentions are to have a dual boot system with Free Dos and Linux. The reason for using Dos is to get some dos based games working (Aces of the pacific and Aces over Europe being my main two) that I have so far been unable to get working under winxp (notorious memory problems). The reason for using linux is because I am interested in testing out its abilities and to simply teach myself the workings of another os. Now, dos wise I don't have much choice, but linux I do.

For those linux experts on this forum, I ask you, which is the best linux for beginners. I have been told Mandrake. I have read this forum about Linux http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=311194&highlight=linux+windows (sorry but you'll have to copy address I think). Any advice will be greatly appreciated thanks.

Strafer · « **Reply #19 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:26:29 pm »

I work for Xandros personally, and for ease of use/installation it ranks up there....

Praxis · « **Reply #20 on:** May 09, 2004, 12:07:45 am »

I have RH Linux, very complicated. I've heard good things about Xandros.

I want to get WineX working so I can play SFC3 in Linux...

Baker · « **Reply #21 on:** May 09, 2004, 03:06:21 am »

I'm going to try Mandrake since my brother has used it. THanks anyway for the advice.

Praxis · « **Reply #22 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:31:45 am »

Get him to help. It's good to have someone who knows how to use Linux around.

I've been trying to figure it out for a while. I can surf the web, do office work, etc etc, all very easily, but when it comes to installing and compiling programs, I'm stumped.

I finally figured out that I don't have GCC installed, but everywhere I download it I get it in source code!

Praxis · « **Reply #24 on:** May 09, 2004, 03:25:43 pm »

Yeah, I finally figured that out, then realized it was on disk 2, which I can't seem to find

Demandred · « **Reply #25 on:** May 09, 2004, 08:01:19 pm »

If you turn out not to like Mandrake, I've heard that SuSE is very good for beginners.

Lepton1 · « **Reply #26 on:** May 09, 2004, 08:24:39 pm »

While I applaud your looking into linux, I might suggest that you look into some sort of DOS emulator that runs in Windows to run those games. I saw one demostrated not too long ago on Tech TV.

As for messing with Linux, don't forget about Knoppix, Flak??, etc, that basically run off your CD drive and don't install anything on your hard drive. Then of course you can decide if you want to partition your drive and do an actual install.

Baker · « **Reply #27 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:01:46 pm »

For dos emulation, I have a program called Dos emu which runs under linux. However, I believe that learning to work with Linux is my top priority. I actually got 4 books of my brother to help me, since my knowledge is limited to configuring windows to run games.

Praxis · « **Reply #28 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:19:32 pm »

Why would you want a DOS emulator??

I would take Wine and WineX any day over a DOS emulator.

Wine loads up your Windows APIs and lets you run almost any Windows program in Linux, including *some* 3d games.

WineX is a specially modified version of Wine that lets you install, organize, and run Windows games in Linux....several hundred have been tested and work, including Jedi Knight2 (probably Academy by now, haven't been checking) and I think SFC2 (not sure)...

Praxis · « **Reply #30 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:42:59 pm »

He works for TG?

Ask him if he can get me the binaries without me having to compile from source or pay money!

Nyahaha! (I've been trying to get GCC working with no luck till I find my RH disk 2)

Baker · « **Reply #31 on:** May 09, 2004, 10:54:04 pm »

Because right now I'm going to be experimenting with Linux on another machine, and so if something horrible happens, I still have this machine to work with. For this machine, I'm going to keep XP until such times as I have full confidence in my linux operating abilities. So I don't need a windows emulator but I still have some dos games that I'd like to play hence the dos emulator.

Baker · « **Reply #32 on:** May 09, 2004, 11:27:00 pm »

Ok, just tried to boot up Knoppix 3.3 and my monitor screen picture is distored (like when its running beyond its resolution). Not sure what the problem is but since I still have XP on the drive (its booting from cd which I hoped I could get around by doing an actual install to harddrive). So far so good.

Praxis · « **Reply #33 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:19:44 am »

Likely it doesn't have the built in drivers for your system.

I'd recommend you install dual boot with Windows XP, then install video drivers from command line. I'd recommend you get a Linux geek with you.

Basicly, I installed a dual boot with RH Linux 9 and XP. My XP partition was NTFS instead of FAT32 (therefore unreadable by Linux unless you get a kernel patch), so I had to download the video drivers in windows and burn them to a CD. Then I went to Linux, went to command line, and mounted the CD ROM and installed the drivers.

Baker · « **Reply #34 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:38:43 am »

Thanks but I was able to install Mandrake 9. While older then Knoppix, it is still a trial run for me so it is good enough for the task. Having said that, I will most definately look into upgrading to Knoppix in time should me experiences with Linux prove to be quite good. Since I have been able to install a linux OS after two attempts, it has already pulled ahead of XP.

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #35 on:** May 10, 2004, 08:19:11 am »

In terms of ease of setup and admin, SUsE is very easy. It was every bit as easy as setting up a Windows system and it even set up the dual-boot for me.

Baker · « **Reply #36 on:** May 08, 2004, 09:32:17 pm »

Ok, I'm going to vinally begin mucking about with Linux. My intentions are to have a dual boot system with Free Dos and Linux. The reason for using Dos is to get some dos based games working (Aces of the pacific and Aces over Europe being my main two) that I have so far been unable to get working under winxp (notorious memory problems). The reason for using linux is because I am interested in testing out its abilities and to simply teach myself the workings of another os. Now, dos wise I don't have much choice, but linux I do.

For those linux experts on this forum, I ask you, which is the best linux for beginners. I have been told Mandrake. I have read this forum about Linux http://forums.pcper.com/showthread.php?t=311194&highlight=linux+windows (sorry but you'll have to copy address I think). Any advice will be greatly appreciated thanks.

Strafer · « **Reply #37 on:** May 08, 2004, 10:26:29 pm »

I work for Xandros personally, and for ease of use/installation it ranks up there....

Praxis · « **Reply #38 on:** May 09, 2004, 12:07:45 am »

I have RH Linux, very complicated. I've heard good things about Xandros.

I want to get WineX working so I can play SFC3 in Linux...

Baker · « **Reply #39 on:** May 09, 2004, 03:06:21 am »

I'm going to try Mandrake since my brother has used it. THanks anyway for the advice.

Praxis · « **Reply #40 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:31:45 am »

Get him to help. It's good to have someone who knows how to use Linux around.

I've been trying to figure it out for a while. I can surf the web, do office work, etc etc, all very easily, but when it comes to installing and compiling programs, I'm stumped.

I finally figured out that I don't have GCC installed, but everywhere I download it I get it in source code!

Praxis · « **Reply #42 on:** May 09, 2004, 03:25:43 pm »

Yeah, I finally figured that out, then realized it was on disk 2, which I can't seem to find

Demandred · « **Reply #43 on:** May 09, 2004, 08:01:19 pm »

If you turn out not to like Mandrake, I've heard that SuSE is very good for beginners.

Lepton1 · « **Reply #44 on:** May 09, 2004, 08:24:39 pm »

While I applaud your looking into linux, I might suggest that you look into some sort of DOS emulator that runs in Windows to run those games. I saw one demostrated not too long ago on Tech TV.

As for messing with Linux, don't forget about Knoppix, Flak??, etc, that basically run off your CD drive and don't install anything on your hard drive. Then of course you can decide if you want to partition your drive and do an actual install.

Baker · « **Reply #45 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:01:46 pm »

For dos emulation, I have a program called Dos emu which runs under linux. However, I believe that learning to work with Linux is my top priority. I actually got 4 books of my brother to help me, since my knowledge is limited to configuring windows to run games.

Praxis · « **Reply #46 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:19:32 pm »

Why would you want a DOS emulator??

I would take Wine and WineX any day over a DOS emulator.

Wine loads up your Windows APIs and lets you run almost any Windows program in Linux, including *some* 3d games.

WineX is a specially modified version of Wine that lets you install, organize, and run Windows games in Linux....several hundred have been tested and work, including Jedi Knight2 (probably Academy by now, haven't been checking) and I think SFC2 (not sure)...

Praxis · « **Reply #48 on:** May 09, 2004, 09:42:59 pm »

He works for TG?

Ask him if he can get me the binaries without me having to compile from source or pay money!

Nyahaha! (I've been trying to get GCC working with no luck till I find my RH disk 2)

Baker · « **Reply #49 on:** May 09, 2004, 10:54:04 pm »

Because right now I'm going to be experimenting with Linux on another machine, and so if something horrible happens, I still have this machine to work with. For this machine, I'm going to keep XP until such times as I have full confidence in my linux operating abilities. So I don't need a windows emulator but I still have some dos games that I'd like to play hence the dos emulator.

Baker · « **Reply #50 on:** May 09, 2004, 11:27:00 pm »

Ok, just tried to boot up Knoppix 3.3 and my monitor screen picture is distored (like when its running beyond its resolution). Not sure what the problem is but since I still have XP on the drive (its booting from cd which I hoped I could get around by doing an actual install to harddrive). So far so good.

Praxis · « **Reply #51 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:19:44 am »

Likely it doesn't have the built in drivers for your system.

I'd recommend you install dual boot with Windows XP, then install video drivers from command line. I'd recommend you get a Linux geek with you.

Basicly, I installed a dual boot with RH Linux 9 and XP. My XP partition was NTFS instead of FAT32 (therefore unreadable by Linux unless you get a kernel patch), so I had to download the video drivers in windows and burn them to a CD. Then I went to Linux, went to command line, and mounted the CD ROM and installed the drivers.

Baker · « **Reply #52 on:** May 10, 2004, 01:38:43 am »

Thanks but I was able to install Mandrake 9. While older then Knoppix, it is still a trial run for me so it is good enough for the task. Having said that, I will most definately look into upgrading to Knoppix in time should me experiences with Linux prove to be quite good. Since I have been able to install a linux OS after two attempts, it has already pulled ahead of XP.

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #53 on:** May 10, 2004, 08:19:11 am »

In terms of ease of setup and admin, SUsE is very easy. It was every bit as easy as setting up a Windows system and it even set up the dual-boot for me.

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