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Daew Anahos

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How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« on: May 05, 2004, 09:17:47 pm »
I love time travel. It rocks.

But again? I tune into Enterprise every once in a while. I saw the cliffhanger. I did not see how it was resolved but saw the posts that talked about it here. I gathered that the community's basic opinion of the resolution of the cliffhanger was... wtf?

How in the world is Enterprise even * operating * ?

And now we have the ship from the past with the family bit.

DS9 did this with a different twist.

We've had Daniels from the future. Now we've had the descendents from the past that now (of course) never existed.

Once again, I like time travel. But anything overused as a plot device becomes tiresome.


Dear Berman,

Bring on the bleeping Federation/Romulan war.

Sincerely,

Everyone.



Did anyone else feel the same?  

InragedSith

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2004, 09:36:35 pm »
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I love time travel. It rocks.




Haven't seen much Trek have you?

Time Travel has been used so many times in Trek it isn't funny and has gotten very boring and predictable

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How in the world is Enterprise even * operating * ?




Before the socialists took over and quality control went down the crapper ships were very durable

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And now we have the ship from the past with the family bit.

DS9 did this with a different twist.




Just goes to show you how creatively bankrupt they are if they can't think of a completely original idea

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Dear Berman,

Bring on the bleeping Federation/Romulan war.

Sincerely,

Everyone.
 




They won't do it they fully believe that a story won't work having an enemy we never see

On that alone they should be reassigned to something other than creative work  and they should take an IQ test

We could have an Earth-Romulan war story easily as long as we follow one simple rule the Romulans and Humans never see eachother, the audience can see both sides but the characters can't see what the other side looks like

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2004, 10:01:45 pm »
Enterprise sent over a century into the past

Choices:

1/ Go to Earth and prepare them for the future, maybe avoid WWIII.  Can't do that because we don't want to interfere with history.

2/ Run around the expanse for all that time making allies (none of whom provide ships to help against the Xindi) and try to destroy the first weapon that is sent to attack Earth (I thought we weren't wanting to interfere with history?)   Of course none of that alliances and trading has any effect on the future and none can replace those century old injectors.

3/ Find a planet somewhere to colonize and build up a society that can build replicas of Enterprise (even develped advanced tech to make better copies) and stop the Xindi with a fleet instead of one ancient ship. The old west planet would be useful for this.  Ohhh yeah, can't change history (except in option 2 of course).

4/ As 3/ but make friends with the Xindi before the sphere builders do and stop the war before it starts.   Ohhh yeah, can't change history (except in option 2 of course).

Just a few off the top of my head options.  I am sure that with years to plan and the brains upon a ship like the NX-01 something better could be done.  

Rat_Boy

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2004, 11:03:39 pm »
At least we have a name for NX-02: Columbia.  Fitting, I think.

Magnum357

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2004, 12:53:31 am »
..........UHG!!!!!    I'm sorry, I tried too defend B&B with their show with the idea that this whole thing could be possibly an "Alternate Timeline" or a "Alternate Universe", but its almost as if B&B are making this whole series "Half-ass".  

Is Paramont does give these two the axe or reassigns them, how about asking one or two of the old cast members of the other shows too take over the helm?  Its seems too me that Lavar Burton and Jonathan Franks both directed many episodes of Star Trek.  They may not want too act in Star Trek anymore, but if they don't have any other acting jobs available could they be interested in taking over B&B's place?  I would trust them a little more then some temporary excutive put in place.

CFA_Admiral_Tige

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2004, 07:00:42 am »
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At least we have a name for NX-02: Columbia.  Fitting, I think.  




I sware, that before  Enterprise left for the expanse, when NX-02 was shown, either Forrest or Archer said it was going to be named  Intrepid.

Tiger  

InragedSith

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2004, 07:16:21 am »
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I sware, that before  Enterprise left for the expanse, when NX-02 was shown, either Forrest or Archer said it was going to be named  Intrepid.

Tiger  




No Intrepid was one of the older Earth ships that saved the NX-01 from Klingon attack in the Sol system

David Ferrell

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2004, 07:59:31 am »
I'm glad to see I was not alone in being disappointed in E^2.  After
visiting and posting on another board, I was beginning to doubt
myself.

How about this: Phlox creating the first Vulcan/Human hybrid.

Hey Berman and Braga, what's that in the corner?  I think it's
a bit of TOS history you haven't usurped yet.  Better go get
it!

Thanks,

Dave

James_Smith

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2004, 08:14:53 am »
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I'm glad to see I was not alone in being disappointed in E^2.  After
visiting and posting on another board, I was beginning to doubt
myself.

How about this: Phlox creating the first Vulcan/Human hybrid.

Hey Berman and Braga, what's that in the corner?  I think it's
a bit of TOS history you haven't usurped yet.  Better go get
it!

Thanks,

Dave  




Shhh! Don't give them ideas Dave!

I haven't seen the episode yet, but from what I'm hearing....I won't enjoy it.  

Rat_Boy

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2004, 10:32:15 am »
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I haven't seen the episode yet, but from what I'm hearing....I won't enjoy it.  





Quite a few logic holes in this one.  Setting aside any reservations about the Vulcan/Human breeding angle (I frankly don't see the problem; whose to say Sarek and Amanda didn't need a little help?), the crew of the future E behaved like a bunch of idiots, given that they had 117 years to get ready for the probe launch.  It would have been better if they just skipped this episode and gone into the next arc show instead of wasting our time with this one.

Death_Merchant

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2004, 11:09:42 am »
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I'm glad to see I was not alone in being disappointed in E^2.  After
visiting and posting on another board, I was beginning to doubt
myself.

How about this: Phlox creating the first Vulcan/Human hybrid.

Hey Berman and Braga, what's that in the corner?  I think it's
a bit of TOS history you haven't usurped yet.  Better go get
it!

Thanks,

Dave  



Don't sweat it. It was another "reset button" episode.
E1 did not go back in time, so it never happened....
The only contribution to "Enterprise continuity" this made was to explain why the Zindi think Starfleet is all over the Expanse.

If only I could go back in time and stop myself from wasting an irrecoverable hour of my life.....  

CFA_Admiral_Tige

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2004, 11:54:05 am »
Thinking about the ending(what happened to the other Enterprise ) got me wondering...why DO they remember it? It cant be a flaw in the script(shockingly) because that was written in.  I think back to the TNG episode "Yesterday's  Enterprise , because basically the same thing happened, but the meeting was forgotten.  Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree, but I dont believe this is the last time we will see 2  NX-01 Enterprise's

Tiger  

CFA_Admiral_Tige

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2004, 11:58:35 am »
Another incoherant rant from me....

The episode's themselves havent been THAT bad, but the endings are absolutely horrible.  They would do better making  Enterprise a 2-hr show  

nx_adam_1701

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2004, 01:32:25 pm »



adam out

FFZ

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2004, 01:35:26 pm »
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I'm glad to see I was not alone in being disappointed in E^2.  After
visiting and posting on another board, I was beginning to doubt
myself.


No Dave, it's not just you, and I also saw that many seemed to like that drivel.

And I didn't doubt, I used to see people defend Neelix.


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How about this: Phlox creating the first Vulcan/Human hybrid.


He was quite busy himself, with 9 kids.
Reed seemed to take it badly that he had no kids, so he hits on the first girl he sees.

Also, Tripp's kid obviously learned from Archer, when in doubt, stun and just do what you want.

And people have the nerve to knock Kirk, and praise B&B.
Jerks.
 


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Hey Berman and Braga, what's that in the corner?  I think it's
a bit of TOS history you haven't usurped yet.  Better go get
it!


Next on "Enterprise" we learn that humans didn't REALLY found the Federation, and Kirk was a clone from some yet to be named cave planet with no sunlight, in which spacesuits and flashlights are needed.    

Lono

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2004, 03:49:15 pm »

Yeah, I am actually not as opposed to Time travel episodes as say your hard core trekkie, but this episode was absolute rubbish.

I think this story arc is the one time in TV history when I actually hope that it all turns out to be a dream, or never happens at all due to some rediculous Time Travel solution.

Maybe they will actually hire some fans of the show to re-vamp the writing in the next Star Trek series.

As for this series, for the most part, a room full of monkeys could have probably done better.

(That may be a little harsh - but I'm not feelin charitable today)    

FFZ

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2004, 03:51:51 pm »
  I get the immpression a room full monkeys is ALREADY writing the show.  
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nx_adam_1701

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2004, 04:09:45 pm »
GOOD ONE


ADAM OUT

Lepton1

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2004, 06:34:08 pm »
The E2 episode is setting us up for the ultimate denouement, that the whole of the Enterprise show never happened.  Does anyone not remember that Daniels says that history did not record any of these events:  the attack on Earth, the whole of the Enterprise's journey into the expanse, etc.  You all seem to forget that this show started with the Temporal Cold War, and you have some expectation that there isn't going to be a boat load of time travel. Wake up and smell the chronotons!!!!

nx_adam_1701

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Re: How predictable was tonights episode of Enterprise?
« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2004, 08:15:07 pm »
Another good one

adam out