Topic: What will you need to run your NEXT Microsoft operating system?

[IKV Nemesis D7L]

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Microsoft is expected to recommend that the "average" Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.

Pretty hefty.  But will it run SFC?  

[Javora]

Yikes, with those type of specs my next OS might not be a Micro$oft OS.  But then if Apple OS could run on the Intel/AMD platform I would have swiched a long time ago.  Or at least run a dual system.
 

[Sirgod]

 

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  Pretty hefty. But will it run SFC?

Hell If I know, I'm still trying to Get XP to run Tom Clancy's SSN. I'm about ready to copy my disk, and try running them off a Virtual CD rom Via Daemon tools. Compatibility mode for both win 95 or win 98 doesn't seem to work.

Stephen

[Clark Kent]

It's a communist plot, and it's unacceptable.  I can no longer sit back and allowcommunist infiltration,communist indoctrination, communist subversion, AND the international communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!

CK

P.S.  i like Latinas...
....And apparently Asian ladies as well...

[Baker]

 Hey I'm still trying to get Aces of the Pacific to run on my XP machine. I have the collectors edition cd but for some stupid reason it keeps saying I lack Expanded memory or conventional memory. The aces games were great aircraft games (too bad CFS sucks). If history is any example of trends then current games may not work. Of course in such a case, I would recommend getting another pc and keeping the current one for current games (wish I had a pc configured to run Aces and US navy fighters).

[S'Raek]

This is exactly why I play all my games on a console.    

[ActiveX]

Because windows takes compuguts to run?

PC games are still better looking :P

[Sirgod]

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 Hey I'm still trying to get Aces of the Pacific to run on my XP machine. I have the collectors edition cd but for some stupid reason it keeps saying I lack Expanded memory or conventional memory. The aces games were great aircraft games (too bad CFS sucks). If history is any example of trends then current games may not work. Of course in such a case, I would recommend getting another pc and keeping the current one for current games (wish I had a pc configured to run Aces and US navy fighters).  

let me get a bit more awake, and I might be able to help you with. I know the old Dos Ultima Games needed alot of tweaks beacuse of the way the memory manage's where set up. I seem to recall changing Files=25 and something else in a Man made shortcut to get It to run.

It might be the same with Aces.

stephen

[NJAntman]

Those specs sound down right expensive! Looks like I'll be running XP for the next decade at least.  

Some time around 2018, "Son, forget about that Harvard scholarship, Mom and I need you to sign with the Yankees so we can afford that new computer."  

[Hilton]

I bet Gates has stock in hardware companies! That's the only reason!

 

[Kmelew]

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 Hey I'm still trying to get Aces of the Pacific to run on my XP machine. I have the collectors edition cd but for some stupid reason it keeps saying I lack Expanded memory or conventional memory. The aces games were great aircraft games (too bad CFS sucks). If history is any example of trends then current games may not work. Of course in such a case, I would recommend getting another pc and keeping the current one for current games (wish I had a pc configured to run Aces and US navy fighters).  

let me get a bit more awake, and I might be able to help you with. I know the old Dos Ultima Games needed alot of tweaks beacuse of the way the memory manage's where set up. I seem to recall changing Files=25 and something else in a Man made shortcut to get It to run.

It might be the same with Aces.

stephen  

Ask and ye shall receive...

 DosBox

I recently used this to play Privateer on XP, which used to be impossible due to Origin's proprietary JEMM memory manager.

Aces of the Pacific and all Ultima games appear to be supported.  

[Sirgod]

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 Hey I'm still trying to get Aces of the Pacific to run on my XP machine. I have the collectors edition cd but for some stupid reason it keeps saying I lack Expanded memory or conventional memory. The aces games were great aircraft games (too bad CFS sucks). If history is any example of trends then current games may not work. Of course in such a case, I would recommend getting another pc and keeping the current one for current games (wish I had a pc configured to run Aces and US navy fighters).  

let me get a bit more awake, and I might be able to help you with. I know the old Dos Ultima Games needed alot of tweaks beacuse of the way the memory manage's where set up. I seem to recall changing Files=25 and something else in a Man made shortcut to get It to run.

It might be the same with Aces.

stephen  

Ask and ye shall receive...

 DosBox

I recently used this to play Privateer on XP, which used to be impossible due to Origin's proprietary JEMM memory manager.

Aces of the Pacific and all Ultima games appear to be supported.  

Thanks again Kmelew. I keep forgetting about that proggy.

Stephen

[Strafer]

There's also  ScummVM for the LucasArts games.

[TalonClaw]

*CHOKE*  They've got to be kidding.

[Death_Merchant]

Holy Cow!

I guess Dr. Soong did not use Longhorn for Data. His positronic net isn't up to spec......  

[Baker]

 Thanks guys, but I've already got Dos Box, had it running and still had the same problem. I was thinking of using an old computer of mine, formatting the hard drive and installing 98se (bare bones) and installing Dos Box. Either that or possibly an old version of dos.

 I tried using memmaker, loading a memory fix in dos box (keeping in mind that I was running dos box off this machine like a normal program) but was not successful.

 Most of the time I just wish they would bring out an updated version or have another ww2 sim just like it (the number of aircraft was astounding).

[Maxillius]

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Microsoft is expected to recommend that the "average" Longhorn PC feature a dual-core CPU running at 4 to 6GHz; a minimum of 2 gigs of RAM; up to a terabyte of storage; a 1 Gbit, built-in, Ethernet-wired port and an 802.11g wireless link; and a graphics processor that runs three times faster than those on the market today.

Pretty hefty.  But will it run SFC?  

More reasons to buy Apple.

[Baker]

 They are good computers but aren't really good games machines. Personally I would buy one if they didn't cost so much.

[Clark Kent]

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 They are good computers but aren't really good games machines. Personally I would buy one if they didn't cost so much.  

Hopefully I'm not tooting Apple's horn too much, but Macs make fine game machines, they just lack games.  Also, they aren't all that expensive these days anymore, at least, if you go eMac, iMac or iBook.  The Powerbooks are more expensive, as are the Powermacs, but I feel well worth the money if that's what you need,

CK

P.S.  I like Latinas...
....And apparently Asian ladies as well...

[Praxis]

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They are good computers but aren't really good games machines. Personally I would buy one if they didn't cost so much.  

 OpenGL integration into the operating system...even the desktop is 3d.  Before you call this a waste of resources, consider this.  When you are NOT playing a 3d game, your graphics card is doing NOTHING and your processor is doing the window dressing.  In Mac OS X, the graphics card does the work of the windows, freeing up the processor to do more work.  This integration also gives it great game performance.  And makes it very, very easy to convert games from Linux to Mac OS X, since both use OpenGL and both use UNIX.

As a result, Mac's are GREAT gaming machines.  The downside is that there isn't as many games.

Plus theres UNIX- it doesn't crash like Windows/DOS.


Actually, there are a WHOLE STINKING LOT of Mac games.

Seriously, people, you should look into the wealth of Mac games.  Here's just ONE COMPANY:

http://www.aspyr.com/games.php/mac/complete/

There are a LOT, from Jedi Academy to BF1942 to Elite Force...

Now all we need is SFC3 and I can throw my Windows box out.

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 Hopefully I'm not tooting Apple's horn too much, but Macs make fine game machines, they just lack games.

Completely correct, except now that there are several companies that make lots of money by converting other companies' games to the Mac platform, so you can find *most* major PC games except Starfleet Command and a couple others for Mac- they just come out a few months late.

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  Also, they aren't all that expensive these days anymore, at least, if you go eMac, iMac or iBook.  The Powerbooks are more expensive, as are the Powermacs, but I feel well worth the money if that's what you need,

Actually...

The low end PowerMacs are ridiculously priced for the low amount of power ($1500 for a single processor 1.6 ghz machine?  Even if it does more calculations per hz, its nothing compared to an Athlon 64!), but the high end PowerMacs ($3000 will get you a dual 2 GHz PowerMac G5, with a Radeon 9800 and lots of RAM, PCI-X, and a 200 gigabyte hard drive and DVD-RW) is cheaper than an Alienware with about equal performance (according to benchmarks- it wins in gaming because the Alienware has a 256 MB Radeon 9800, while the best the Mac can get is a 128 MB Radeon 9800 Pro, but the Mac wins by a mile in video editting
 performance).

iBook is cheaper than most PC laptops!  Consider:  $1099, or $999 with student discount, will get you a computer with a fast processor, 6 hour max battery (generally 4 hours, 5 if you don't have wireles card and are not using the bluetooth or 3d graphics card much and aren't doing anything intensive), a Radeon 9200 (try finding a graphics card like that on a PC laptop for under $1400!), a 30 gig hard drive, a DVD/CD-RW, and built in microphone...

I had a G3 iBook just before they came out with the G4.

The 12" PowerBook has average pricing (about on par with PC's) and the 15" and 17" PowerBooks are a bit too expensive.  eMacs are very cheap, iMacs are expensive (BUT have a built in flatscreen and is one of the most compact yet powerful systems I've ever seen...the computer fits in the STAND for the LCD!).



Trust me when I say Mac rules- I have a 12" PowerBook G4






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Apparently I'm not the only one who reads slashdot.  Isn't it ridiculous, those system specs?

I intend to not by any more PC's for a looong time- with the number of Mac games rapidly rising, and the bloat of Windows rising even faster, I'm gonna go all Mac.