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J. Carney

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2004, 03:45:45 pm »
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1.    'Sand' is a weather.
 




Never a truer statement uttered.

Sethan

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2004, 01:10:25 am »
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20.    The 'free' meals at the hotel are worth what you pay for it.  




Try ordering bacon and eggs for breakfast some time.  Saw a guy do this in Saudi.  Annoys the locals a bit.

Barabbas

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2004, 03:34:55 am »
 
We're in Hurghada, just below the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula and diving in the Red Sea.  None of us have ever dove (dived?) before, so we don't have anything else to compare it to but so far it's been awesome!

Final diving exam today in a little over an hour....

 

Barabbas

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Re: Greetings from the land of Sun, Dead Pharohs and Cabbies from Hell!
« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2004, 03:57:26 pm »

    We spent four days diving (Jill finally started to enjoy herself a bit on the last day) which completed our basic class, took two days off to slob around a bit and dove again for the two-day Advanced Open Water course during which we dove on a wreck (the Minesweeper El Minya, in Hurghada bay which was sunk after three days of bombing by Israeli warplanes in 1969 in retaliation for an Egyptian frog-men attack from Jordan), a 'deep dive' to 30 meters, and a night dive.  We're now all certified 'Advanced Open Water Divers'!
 
    After the Advanced class, we took another day off and then went to bed early, got up at 4am and flew to Cairo about 400 miles or so away to the northwest.  Cairo has some 23 million people (yikes!) and apparently no traffic lights.  No... traffic... lights...  What in the WORLD are they THINKING?!?  Seriously, it's like New York City, but with no pretenses!  Fortunately none of us had to drive, and the tour bus driver managed to avoid clipping any pedestrians or taxis (if they're anything like the ones in Hurghada, that one's a bit of a disappointment!) and we arrived at all of our Cairo destinations without incident.
 
    We spent the morning in the Cairo Museum with  Mona, our English speaking guide (did I mention Hurghada is primarily a German and Russian vacation spot?  We're often mistaken for Dutch or Swedish, and everyone is surprised to find out that we're American... But for any of you back in the 'States interested in diving, Hurghada is Da Bomb!!!) and she was great.  'Spent about 2 hours in the museum seeing mummies, sarchophogai, statues and the like and then crossed over the Nile into Giza where we had lunch at T.A.I. Fridays! actually located on the Nile itself.  Dry land seems to be as such a premium with all the people that they're just starting to float buildings on the river like riverboat casinos in the 'States.
 
    After lunch it was on to the Papyrus Institute where they still hand-make papyrus the old-fashioned way and then finally to.... The Pyramids!  I have to say, that the cheap commercialism of the whole thing really detracted from the experience of seeing one of the Seven Wonders of the World.  There were guys hawkin' hats, postcards & take a picture with my camel (no thanks, I just bought 10 of 'em from that guy over there!) everywhere, and I just wanted everyone to go away and leave me to soak it all in.  The Pyramids themselves were impressive, as well as the Sphinx & surrounding complex (how many Pyramids did Mona say there were in that area?  Nine maybe?  I wish I had paid attention!) and as I watched Jill & Jake walk around with 14-month-old Rebekah I wondered if Mary & Joseph brought Jesus here when they were in Egypt.... He would have been about that age at the time, and I could almost see Joseph wandering around with him in the baby back-pack as an Egyptian approaches him to ask if he'd like to purchase a picture with his baby on a camel...
 
    After a hot afternoon in the sun (although it was hot, about 90 degrees, it was really about the best weather we could have hoped for - the previous two days were well into the upper 90s!) we then headed over to the Bazaar where we had some Turkish Coffee and I found something for Megan, one of my Sunday School kids who wants to become and Egyptologist.  I don't know if I'll have the heart to tell here that she should give up the dream 'cause they've already discovered everything....  
 
    So we drove back to the airport and got on the plane to fly back to Hurghada, looking forward to diving again the next day.  I'm two-thirds of the way through my book (Ursula LeGuinn's Left Hand of Darkness) and I left it on the bus between the airport and the Resort.  Dummy!  It's been an 18 hour day it's definitely time for bed!
 
 
But first, some additional observations:
 
1.    Nobody uses their headlights here when driving at night, and nobody can explain why....
2.    Egypt has almost no traffic lights.  Now, I know I already mentioned this, but it's was such a big point, I didn't want you all to miss it.
3.    Most aquatic life will not attack humans unless provoked into defending their territory or young.
4.    Stonefish venom will likely kill you.  The antidote has a shelf-life of only a few days, and there aren't many countries who can afford to maintain a supply.  Egypt is not one of them.
5.    The divers instruction manual does tells you not to poke or prod at the aquatic life with your diver knife.  Especially stonefish.  Especially especially the big ones.
6.    This does not seem to apply to diving instructors....
7.    The inner rooms of the Pyramids are hot and smell like the sweat of a thousand tourists.
8.    Camels smell worse.
9.    The Pyramids can be seen from many sections of Giza city.  There is desert on one side, but you could walk to them from the downtown.  (although you could also spend two days walking to them from the other side of Cairo, just across the river - it's really that big!)
10.    The people in Hurghada felt that they had 'arrived' and were finally 'on the map' when Radio Shack opened up.
11.    Egyptians love babies.  Rebekah has been the main attraction everywhere we go, and it seems customary to snap your fingers to attract the attention of an infant.
12.    Whoever invented bikinis was very wise.
13.    If you are arrested but the police have nothing concrete to charge you with, they may still shave your head before releasing you if they don't like you.  (been there, done that!)
14.    Egypt has a tax loophole that says if  your building is not complete, you don't have to pay property taxes on it.
15.    There are a lot of 'incomplete' buildings in Egypt....    
16.    Clean drinking water costs more than gasoline here.
 

IndyShark

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #24 on: May 15, 2004, 11:21:25 am »
When I was in Bahrain, I discovered beef bacon! It wasn't too bad....  

Barabbas

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The final days and the Exodus
« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2004, 03:46:26 pm »
Well, I've been home for a week by now but I figured you all deserved a wrap-up.

On Wednesday, one day after our Cairo trip, we all assembled for another foray into the Red Sea.  Jill wasn't feeling well after Cairo so she stayed at the Resort with Rebekah and Sara came out on the boat with us.  In hindsight, this was a good thing, because if she wasn't sick that morning she certainly would have been sick after a few hours on the boat that day!  There was quite a bit of rough sea goin' on, and Jill isn't the biggest fan of boats even on calm waters....  We dove over a large field of coral called 'The Garden' and saw some of the best underwater scenery so far.

About twenty minutes into our return towards shore the good ship 'Ta Ta' blew out a few gears in her transfer case, and although the crew acted quickly to drop anchor the wind and waves pushed us up onto a small reef.  Three other boats responded as soon as they saw that we were in distress and came by to assist, and one of them pulled us off the reef in short order.  By that time another boat (Isis) from our pier happened by and they towed us in to shore.  Well, that could have been worse!

The desert starts where the Resort stops.  On Thursday, Rob, Sara and I got early (again!) and boarded a bus to ride four hours through over 100 miles of desert for our day trip to Luxor.  I have to admit that I wasn't particularly looking forward to this trip.  After seeing the Pyramids, how good could this place be?!?  Well, it was awesome!  Over 60 acres of tombs, temples & ruins remain in Luxor, with the Valley of the Kings just over the river.  While none of it was as large as the Pyramids and Sphinx in Cairo, there was certainly a lot more of it and everything seems to have been carved to tell some sort of story.

Friday came and it was back in the water for one last day of diving.  Jill rejoined us, and Sara and Rebekah also came along for the day.  These last two days of diving were great sinced we could finally skip the exercises and just swim around & look at stuff!

And that's pretty much it.  We slobbed around on Saturday, got some last-minute shopping in and checked out at 2:30am Sunday morning.  Rob, Sara & I stayed overnight at Jill & Jake's place in Germany and then flew back to the 'States.  It was, overall, just about the best trip I've ever taken.  Scuba diving was a blast and the sights in Egypt were really cool.  I'm already looking forward to a return trip in a few years!

Here's a few final things we learned to leave you with:

1.    Cheeseburgers from McDonalds are exactly the same in the US, Germany, and Egypt.
2.    Over-irrigation has begun to cause the Nile to flow backwards near the mouth and become salty.
3.    There are security checkpoints/metal detectors at many locations such as the entrance to the resorts.  These are not for the tourists, but for the locals in order to protect the Tourists.
4.    Pizza Hut renamed their 'Big New Yorker' the 'Big Italian' for Egyptian consumption.
5.    'Pressure Point' may well be the worst movie ever made.  I think I lost several... uh... Oh, yeah - I.Q. points... while being subjected to it on the return bus ride from Luxor.
6.    Rebekah likes Egyptian music.  She apparently knows something the rest of us don't!
7.    If you can find a wet suit you fit in, it's likely that you look pretty good in it.
8.    Turkish coffee Rocks the House!
9.    King Tut was not discovered inside a Pyramid - He (and about 100 other Pharaohs) were buried and discovered in the Valley of the Kings across the river from Luxor and Karnak.
10.    I wrong about not being anything left to discover in Egypt...  There are at least 30 tombs that are unaccounted for and some believe that there is evidence of another Sphinx near the Pyramids.
11.    Everyone reading this needs to learn how to scuba dive so I'll have more people to go diving with in the future!

Thanks for taking the time to read along!
 

The_Joker

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Re: The final days and the Exodus
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2004, 07:44:37 pm »
 
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 1. Cheeseburgers from McDonalds are exactly the same in the US, Germany, and Egypt.
 




I disagree.  The McDonald's up the street from Yaeger Kaserne in Ashaffenburg is close, but does not tase EXACTLY the same as one in the US.  

Khalee

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Re: The final days and the Exodus
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2004, 07:48:52 pm »
Dammit I'm getting ready to cook chicken and rice and you had to mention cheese burgers GRRRR
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Khalee »

Stormbringer

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Re: The final days and the Exodus
« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2004, 08:19:30 pm »
that would be like a recycled floor mat mixed with saw dust and weeks old road kill flavoring added?

Barabbas

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Re: The final days and the Exodus
« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2004, 09:17:21 pm »
 
That's the one....  But yet strangely appealing!

Barabbas

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Greetings from the land of Sun, Dead Pharohs and Cabbies from Hell!
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2004, 03:00:48 pm »


Day 1:

   OK? I?ve been here two hours and already I was robbed!  

   The four-and-a-half hour flight from Frankfurt was quite nice?  Uneventful and seemingly short, but things went downhill from there.  We landed at about 1:45AM Sunday morning.  Deplane, board a bus and get dropped off at the terminal and find? It would appear that six other flights arrived all within the past half-hour.  There was a crowd of literally about a thousand people in the airport terminal, all milling about facing different directions (lines) for the different travel agency desks and passport control.  

So we wait with one crowd for a surprisingly short half-hour or so and speak with someone at our agency desk.  They put two colorful stamps in our passport and direct us to the other side of the room.  The same direction almost everyone else in the crowd is now already facing.  And so? we wait.  And wait.  And step forward two steps.  And wait.  Would you believe they had only TWO open lanes for passport control?!?  For about a THOUSAND PEOPLE???  Was?sup wit dat?!?  Took us an hour and fifty minutes (it?s now after 4AM) to pass through where they rubber-stamp our pretty colorful stamps.  And pay ?em $15/head.  That?s a pretty good racket.

We?re all tired and crabby and I?ve got a headache (shouldn?t have skipped coffee earlier in the day), and we?re still no where near the hotel.  Ah.  Baggage pickup.  A man dressed in slacks and a dress shirt approaches and offers assistance.  No  thank you.  I don?t even think you work here.  He?s persistent.  I said no thank you.  OK ? there?s our bags.  I pick up four bags.  There?s two more over there.  Someone else comes by and offers assistance.  He?s wearing an official-looking jumpsuit.  Well, my hands are full and I guess I could use assistance?  

He deftly flicks his wrist and exposes a coin for a second.  OK.  No problem.  Let me see here?  I put down two bags and check my pocket.  Eleven bucks.  A tenner and a single.  Is a dollar enough?  I just got here, and wouldn?t want to be rude, and I don?t mind over-tipping for service.  I slide him the ten-spot and pick up my other two bags.  (OK, in hindsight, where were Jake and Rob in all of this?  These certainly weren?t all MY bags!)  We walk to  the other two bags.  He picks one up and tries to hand it to me.

Excuse me?  I?ve got four, thank you? I can?t carry any more.  You carry that one please and get that one over there two.  I direct him to the other bag with my nose.  He says something to me in Egyptian and tries again to hand me the bag.  I can?t carry any more, you take that one, please.  Again he tries to give me the bag.  Grrr?  I put down one of my bags and take the one he?s offering.  He picks up the one I set down.  That?s better.

And then he attempts to put it on top of the ones in my arms.  STOPIT!!!  YOU CARRY!  He steps back.  ?M?friend??  Offers again.  WHA?D I GIVE YOU TEN BUCKS FOR IF YOU?RE NOT GOING TO CARRY ANYTHING FOR ME, &^%$#@???  (You know, at this point I don?t think he actually works for anybody at the airport)  I storm off to find Jake or Rob.  ?M?Friend?? As I turn my back.  ?M?FRIEND!?  Your friend?!?  If I wasn?t carrying four bags I would?ve punched him. I was robbed!

Alright.  Luggage is finally sorted out and taken to the bus.  Wait on the bus for twenty minutes.  A short jaunt to the hotel.  OK?  The resort is gorgeous, I?ll give it that.  At least at night.  Score one for Egypt.  Enter hotel and check in.  Get lost on the way to find the room.  This place is REALLY big.  The room is pretty big too.  Sigh.  Only one bed.  Rob, wait here and I?ll go back to the check in counter?  

I can?t say I?m enthralled with Egypt so far.


 

Barabbas

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The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2004, 03:05:17 pm »

OK.  Things have gotten better.  The food has been so-so, but learning to dive has been a blast & the Resort really is gorgeous.  NYC taxi drivers have got nothin' on the guys here....

Sorry, no pictures yet.  Maybe when I get home.

Anyhow, things I have learned in my first three days in Egypt:

1.    'Sand' is a weather.
2.    Everybody here thinks they're a salesman.
3.    Most are not.
4.    One that is now has $85 of my money (but I've got some very nice stuff to show for it!)
5.    Don't ride in the 'taxies' (Toyota microbuses) that have an extra fellow to ride in the back with you.
6.    6:1 exchange rates RULE!
7.    When you shave your head hair grows back rather quickly.
8.    May Day (May 9th) is one of Russia's biggest holidays and there are many Russians vacationing in Hurghada now.
9.    May Day celebrates Russia's victory over the Germans in WWII.  (do the French have anything like this?)
10.    Russians still hate the Germans.
11.    Everyone here speaks several languages.  They're called 'Multi-Lingual'.
12.    Occasionally you meet someone who only speaks one language.  They're called 'American'.
13.    Women aparently do not work in Egypt.  Many women tourists here, haven't seen hardly any Egyptian women anywhere.
14.    I'm such a geek that I make time in the middle of my diving vacation to Egypt to visit an internet cafe.


 

Sirgod

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2004, 03:12:20 pm »
Hehe, It sounds like things have gotten Better. I had no Idea that this was a Diving vacation. I used to love to dive myself, but It's been a few years.

Stephen

Barabbas

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2004, 03:23:43 pm »

We're all learning to dive for  the first time.  So far, it's been awesome!


15.    People hardly ever die from diving.
16.    The meanest fish in the ocean are clown fish.  'Finding Nemo' was all fantasy.
17.    While we're on fantasy, 'The Red Sea' is false advertising....
18.    Little Richard converted to Christianity.  (I saw it in a movie with Arabic sub-titles.  Go figure.)
19.    Bad American music never dies.  No matter how hard people try to kill it.
20.    The 'free' meals at the hotel are worth what you pay for it.

OK.... Enough for now.  Back in a few days, mebbe....

 

Kmelew

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2004, 03:24:55 pm »
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11.    Everyone here speaks several languages.  They're called 'Multi-Lingual'.
12.    Occasionally you meet someone who only speaks one language.  They're called 'American'.
 




LOL I love that joke!

BTW where are you diving?  Are you staying around Alexandria?  I can't imagine anyone wanting to go diving in Lake Nasser!

Have fun and stay safe!  

J. Carney

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2004, 03:45:45 pm »
Quote:


1.    'Sand' is a weather.
 




Never a truer statement uttered.

Sethan

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #36 on: May 06, 2004, 01:10:25 am »
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20.    The 'free' meals at the hotel are worth what you pay for it.  




Try ordering bacon and eggs for breakfast some time.  Saw a guy do this in Saudi.  Annoys the locals a bit.

Barabbas

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #37 on: May 06, 2004, 03:34:55 am »
 
We're in Hurghada, just below the southern tip of the Sinai Peninsula and diving in the Red Sea.  None of us have ever dove (dived?) before, so we don't have anything else to compare it to but so far it's been awesome!

Final diving exam today in a little over an hour....

 

Barabbas

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Re: Greetings from the land of Sun, Dead Pharohs and Cabbies from Hell!
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2004, 03:57:26 pm »

    We spent four days diving (Jill finally started to enjoy herself a bit on the last day) which completed our basic class, took two days off to slob around a bit and dove again for the two-day Advanced Open Water course during which we dove on a wreck (the Minesweeper El Minya, in Hurghada bay which was sunk after three days of bombing by Israeli warplanes in 1969 in retaliation for an Egyptian frog-men attack from Jordan), a 'deep dive' to 30 meters, and a night dive.  We're now all certified 'Advanced Open Water Divers'!
 
    After the Advanced class, we took another day off and then went to bed early, got up at 4am and flew to Cairo about 400 miles or so away to the northwest.  Cairo has some 23 million people (yikes!) and apparently no traffic lights.  No... traffic... lights...  What in the WORLD are they THINKING?!?  Seriously, it's like New York City, but with no pretenses!  Fortunately none of us had to drive, and the tour bus driver managed to avoid clipping any pedestrians or taxis (if they're anything like the ones in Hurghada, that one's a bit of a disappointment!) and we arrived at all of our Cairo destinations without incident.
 
    We spent the morning in the Cairo Museum with  Mona, our English speaking guide (did I mention Hurghada is primarily a German and Russian vacation spot?  We're often mistaken for Dutch or Swedish, and everyone is surprised to find out that we're American... But for any of you back in the 'States interested in diving, Hurghada is Da Bomb!!!) and she was great.  'Spent about 2 hours in the museum seeing mummies, sarchophogai, statues and the like and then crossed over the Nile into Giza where we had lunch at T.A.I. Fridays! actually located on the Nile itself.  Dry land seems to be as such a premium with all the people that they're just starting to float buildings on the river like riverboat casinos in the 'States.
 
    After lunch it was on to the Papyrus Institute where they still hand-make papyrus the old-fashioned way and then finally to.... The Pyramids!  I have to say, that the cheap commercialism of the whole thing really detracted from the experience of seeing one of the Seven Wonders of the World.  There were guys hawkin' hats, postcards & take a picture with my camel (no thanks, I just bought 10 of 'em from that guy over there!) everywhere, and I just wanted everyone to go away and leave me to soak it all in.  The Pyramids themselves were impressive, as well as the Sphinx & surrounding complex (how many Pyramids did Mona say there were in that area?  Nine maybe?  I wish I had paid attention!) and as I watched Jill & Jake walk around with 14-month-old Rebekah I wondered if Mary & Joseph brought Jesus here when they were in Egypt.... He would have been about that age at the time, and I could almost see Joseph wandering around with him in the baby back-pack as an Egyptian approaches him to ask if he'd like to purchase a picture with his baby on a camel...
 
    After a hot afternoon in the sun (although it was hot, about 90 degrees, it was really about the best weather we could have hoped for - the previous two days were well into the upper 90s!) we then headed over to the Bazaar where we had some Turkish Coffee and I found something for Megan, one of my Sunday School kids who wants to become and Egyptologist.  I don't know if I'll have the heart to tell here that she should give up the dream 'cause they've already discovered everything....  
 
    So we drove back to the airport and got on the plane to fly back to Hurghada, looking forward to diving again the next day.  I'm two-thirds of the way through my book (Ursula LeGuinn's Left Hand of Darkness) and I left it on the bus between the airport and the Resort.  Dummy!  It's been an 18 hour day it's definitely time for bed!
 
 
But first, some additional observations:
 
1.    Nobody uses their headlights here when driving at night, and nobody can explain why....
2.    Egypt has almost no traffic lights.  Now, I know I already mentioned this, but it's was such a big point, I didn't want you all to miss it.
3.    Most aquatic life will not attack humans unless provoked into defending their territory or young.
4.    Stonefish venom will likely kill you.  The antidote has a shelf-life of only a few days, and there aren't many countries who can afford to maintain a supply.  Egypt is not one of them.
5.    The divers instruction manual does tells you not to poke or prod at the aquatic life with your diver knife.  Especially stonefish.  Especially especially the big ones.
6.    This does not seem to apply to diving instructors....
7.    The inner rooms of the Pyramids are hot and smell like the sweat of a thousand tourists.
8.    Camels smell worse.
9.    The Pyramids can be seen from many sections of Giza city.  There is desert on one side, but you could walk to them from the downtown.  (although you could also spend two days walking to them from the other side of Cairo, just across the river - it's really that big!)
10.    The people in Hurghada felt that they had 'arrived' and were finally 'on the map' when Radio Shack opened up.
11.    Egyptians love babies.  Rebekah has been the main attraction everywhere we go, and it seems customary to snap your fingers to attract the attention of an infant.
12.    Whoever invented bikinis was very wise.
13.    If you are arrested but the police have nothing concrete to charge you with, they may still shave your head before releasing you if they don't like you.  (been there, done that!)
14.    Egypt has a tax loophole that says if  your building is not complete, you don't have to pay property taxes on it.
15.    There are a lot of 'incomplete' buildings in Egypt....    
16.    Clean drinking water costs more than gasoline here.
 

IndyShark

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Re: The weather is here. Wish you were beautiful!
« Reply #39 on: May 15, 2004, 11:21:25 am »
When I was in Bahrain, I discovered beef bacon! It wasn't too bad....