Topic: Star Wars: The TV Show?

[Praxis]

You obviously have no taste :P


And with that little article you sent...you're obviously looking at this part

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 When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films.

However, reading the CONTEXT, this is the guy at LucasBook's OPINION.  He's not the official Q&A guy for LucasArts- he was just quoted from him.  In fact, that quote is very well known, and is known to be the writer's OPINION.

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they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences. The novelizations are written concurrently with the film's production, so variations in detail do creep in from time to time. Nonetheless, they should be regarded as very accurate depictions of the fictional Star Wars movies.

No, they were never rejected from SW canon.  Don't twist words.

In fact, it's the GAME'S that they were talking about that they consider non-canon, and with reason- the games were never considered canon.

[Dash Jones]

Ah, so sad.  The games actually typically have better stories, and overall, seem to rub better with the star wars universe.

I've managed to read the books by Zahn, but when trying to read the other star wars books, most of them really...well, to put it lightly, don't strike me as a style of book I like to read.

However, I do beleive Lucas has said the games are not canon, at least KoToR when asked about it.  But he does have kids...

I bet that actually is probably a bigger influence than some might assume...

He does have kids...

[Tremok]

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You obviously have no taste :P

You be surpised at how little your opinion of my taste in literature means to me.  

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However, reading the CONTEXT, this is the guy at LucasBook's OPINION.  He's not the official Q&A guy for LucasArts- he was just quoted from him.  In fact, that quote is very well known, and is known to be the writer's OPINION.

Hmm. So on the official website in a section called "ask the LucasFilm Jedi Council," a guy named Steve Sansweet, a LucasFilm liaison, is asked by a fan about Star Wars canon. Steve responds that it is largely a matter of "point of view" but nevertheless felt it worthy to quote Chris Cerasi's (a LucasBooks person) "opinion."

Obviously this Chris Cerasi's opinion has no weight or value. After all, he was only quoted by a LucasFilm liaison when asked about Star Wars canon, and what would a LucasBooks editor know about Star Wars canon anyway?

 

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Read further down:  

I read the entire article before posting.  

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they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences. The novelizations are written concurrently with the film's production, so variations in detail do creep in from time to time. Nonetheless, they should be regarded as very accurate depictions of the fictional Star Wars movies.

What does this have to do with canon? Why do you quote this statement but try to discredit the other? And why don't you quote the whole paragraph, or even the whole sentence?

"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences. The novelizations are written concurrently with the film's production, so variations in detail do creep in from time to time. Nonetheless, they should be regarded as very accurate depictions of the fictional Star Wars movies."

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No, they were never rejected from SW canon.  

 

Obviously an editor of LocusBooks disagrees with you.

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Don't twist words.  

 

Speak for yourself, hypocrite. I'm not the one misquoting half-sentences.  

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  In fact, it's the GAME'S that they were talking about that they consider non-canon, and with reason- the games were never considered canon.

Who were talking about games? The fan that asked the question? He said: "I'm really confused about canon. Is Star Wars Gamer canon? What about the Marvel series? Are they now considered "Infinities?" Star Wars Gamer is a magazine, and "the Marvel series" refers to the Marvel monthly Star Wars comic. The LocusBooks editor? He certainly talks about things other than games.

And you talk about Star Wars games like they weren't part of the Expanded Universe. From the official Star Wars webpage (http://www.starwars.com/eu/), I quote: "If your experience with Star Wars has been just the movies, you're only getting a fraction of the entire tale. Since the start, the Star Wars saga has been expanded through novels, comics, and games. Here you'll find news on the latest releases, interviews with your favorite authors and artists, and much more."

(All italics are mine)  
 

[Praxis]

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Hmm. So on the official website in a section called "ask the LucasFilm Jedi Council," a guy named Steve Sansweet, a LucasFilm liaison, is asked by a fan about Star Wars canon. Steve responds that it is largely a matter of "point of view" but nevertheless felt it worthy to quote Chris Cerasi's (a LucasBooks person) "opinion."

Obviously this Chris Cerasi's opinion has no weight or value. After all, he was only quoted by a LucasFilm liaison when asked about Star Wars canon, and what would a LucasBooks editor know about Star Wars canon anyway?

 

He quoted that guy as an example of another opinion.  He never stated it was his own, or George Lucas'.  In fact, he specifically stated that Lucas works closely with the Star Wars novelists, and they are largely true to his vision.

This implies that the LucasBooks editor's opinion is that they are semi-canon and the true canon is the movies.  It never says that its the official opinion of the Jedi Council or of George Lucas.  In fact, the Jedi Council said it was a matter of opinion.

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What does this have to do with canon? Why do you quote this statement but try to discredit the other? And why don't you quote the whole paragraph, or even the whole sentence?

"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves - and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences. The novelizations are written concurrently with the film's production, so variations in detail do creep in from time to time. Nonetheless, they should be regarded as very accurate depictions of the fictional Star Wars movies."

I didn't quote the whole paragraph because the first part wasn't relative.

That first sentence is the GUY'S INTERPRITATION!!!  HIS OPINION!  It was stated from the outset of the article!

The part about George Lucas working closely with the authors, and the fact that they are accurate depictions of the Star Wars movies, is the point.

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Obviously an editor of LocusBooks disagrees with you.

The editor of LUCASbooks (no, not LocusBooks...you misspelled it) has the personal opinion that the Star Wars movies are the absolute canon.  Which is true.  He never said, NOT ONCE, that the books were "rejected" as you put it, from the canon.

And you accuse ME of twisting words

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  In fact, it's the GAME'S that they were talking about that they consider non-canon, and with reason- the games were never considered canon.

Who were talking about games? The fan that asked the question? He said: "I'm really confused about canon. Is Star Wars Gamer canon? What about the Marvel series? Are they now considered "Infinities?" Star Wars Gamer is a magazine, and "the Marvel series" refers to the Marvel monthly Star Wars comic.

Exactly my point.   He was talking about comics and gaming magazines.  They're *obviously* non-canon, and *thats* what the question was about.

 

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The LocusBooks editor? He certainly talks about things other than games.

LocusBooks?  Interesting, did George Lucas change his name to George Locus?

Sure, HE talks about his opinion on the novels, but the main point being addressed was about the *games* and *comics*.

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And you talk about Star Wars games like they weren't part of the Expanded Universe. From the official Star Wars webpage (http://www.starwars.com/eu/), I quote: "If your experience with Star Wars has been just the movies, you're only getting a fraction of the entire tale. Since the start, the Star Wars saga has been expanded through novels, comics, and games. Here you'll find news on the latest releases, interviews with your favorite authors and artists, and much more."

(All italics are mine)  
 

Sure, its *obviously* been expanded in games.  That doesn't make them canon or semi-canon as the novels are.  From what I hear, Lucas considers the novels to be semi-canon-  games are just spin-offs.

[NCC2012]

(More) news from theforce.net on a rumored Star Wars live-action television show:
http://www.theforce.net/holonet/index.shtml#23814

More SW TV Series Confirmation
Mon, May 03, 04 01:00:20 AM EDT

Sean writes in with this cool report to confirm work on a SW TV Show is most definitely happening:
I asked him about Star Wars' future and he got really excited and told me in thinly veiled comments that it is going to TV (live-action) . He couldn't go into details because he was under a legal contract.
So I asked this gentlemen if the show was pre-EP4, he said maybe with a smile, then I asked about Vader, and he had the same response, same with Chewbacca, same with Tarkin. Anyways he said Lucasfilm was really excited about this, and he did mention that there were to be no Episodes 7-9.

We've got more coming this week, but let's just say a TV Show is a definite thing, according to documents being distributed to licensees and marketing people now.
 
 

[Kmelew]

Very cool if true!!  

But the productions costs to do it right would be staggering.

Anyway, here's hoping!  

[Rat_Boy]

If I were planning this, I'd get it on HBO, since a.) there's no real time constraints on when things need to be done, just at look at how long it takes between seasons of The Sopranos and b.) chances are on a big budget project like this, Lucasfilm would get all the financial and creative control they want without having to worry too much about the network and sponsors.

[Kmelew]

Then again, I hope it's not one those so-called "reality TV" shows...

"The Jedi Apprentice"   hmpf.  

[Rat_Boy]

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"The Jedi Apprentice"   hmpf.  

More like "Sith Apprentice," since theForce.net's been hinting that it's set after Episode III (and the site does know more than they've said so far).

[NCC2012]

I'm hoping for syndication, myself.

[TheSatyr]

Considering how awful the last two movies were,I wouldn't be surprised if a tv series was just as bad.


 

[Rat_Boy]

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Considering how awful the last two movies were,I wouldn't be surprised if a tv series was just as bad.

The prequels suffered from GL's bad writing and inability to evoke emotion from the actors he directs.  Since it's more than likely that he'll be passing off the work on the series to other writers and directors, I see it being better.  Someone get Ira Steven Behr on the phone!

[TalonClaw]

Since TV is a whole new medium I have hopes that GL will let a whole new set of ppl work on it.  Anyway I love Star Wars and will eat it up even if it has more bad acting.  

[Javora]

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I'm hoping for syndication, myself.  

I would like to see that myself, however with syndication being in the dumpster the last couple of years I don't see that happening.  A good example of this would be Andromeda moving to Sci-Fi and the possibility of shows like Mutant X being cancelled.  The best bet IMHO for a Star Wars series would be to find a network that could put the series in a slot with other Science fiction shows.  Maybe like on the same night as the Superman series on the WB or the same night as Enterprise on UPN.

But a Star Wars series with a lot of action (unlike Star Trek dialog driven shows) would be very cool.
 

[hobbesmaster]

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Anyway I love Star Wars and will eat it up even if it has more bad acting.    

Well, it has to be at least the quality of Voyager.  As enterprise demonstrates, you can't actively piss off your fan base but you can do so through passive attrition.  

[Lepton1]

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If I were planning this, I'd get it on HBO, since a.) there's no real time constraints on when things need to be done, just at look at how long it takes between seasons of The Sopranos and b.) chances are on a big budget project like this, Lucasfilm would get all the financial and creative control they want without having to worry too much about the network and sponsors.  

If they do put it on HBO, I will gut you for even having suggested it.  I'm not paying 12 bucks a month to see one show.

[Sirgod]

As long as Bea Arthur Doesn't sing, I'll be happy...

 

Stephen  

[Rat_Boy]

Oh dear, not again.

[Dash Jones]

If it is happening...that's saying if it is...my first bet would be that it will first be offered to Fox or one of it's affiliates...just a strange hunch of mine...

[RogueJedi_XC]

Oh, no, you did NOT just dredge up the Star Wars Holiday Special!

Even George Lucas thinks that travesty should be forgotten. I say it should be burned, buried, launched into the sun, and then, just for good measure, nuked.

Even that may not be enough....