Topic: Stupid game wont work (Read 4647 times)

hero · « **on:** May 01, 2004, 06:16:00 am »

I jsut got it installed itand added the directx 9.0b patch and i get this message:
Unhandled Exception! in Version 1.00 Build 435
SFC3.EXE caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module TAL3DENGINER.DLL at 017F:03646BBE

EAX=00000000 EBX=0127D92B ECX=C16CA1A0 EDX=8177BB58 ESI=09CD6298
EDI=02000001 EBP=0127D90C ESP=0127D8F8 EIP=03646BBE FLG=00010246
CS=017F DS=0187 SS=0187 ES=0187 FS=53F7 GS=0000

017F:03646BBE (0x00000AD4 0x00000020 0x00000AD4 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
017F:0364730F (0x00000AD4 0x00000020 0x00000AD4 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
017F:BFF7363B (0x136F69A2 0x0000136F 0x00000000 0xBFF719B8) KERNEL32.DLL, Ordinal121()+1879 byte(s)
017F:BFF94407 (0x0127E040 0xBFF7186D 0x697C60C7 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, UTUnRegister()+2523 byte(s)

I then uninstalled it and added the v500 patch WITHOUT THE DIRECTX9.0B patch coz i know its already included in v500.
and i get the same message but with build 500 instead of 435

i then installed the v531 patch
and i get the annoying message again

the game intro plays with picard talking but after that nothing works. please help, im desperate to get playing

The_Pelican · « **Reply #1 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:21:35 am »

Right click on SFC3.exe, select Properties/Compatability Options & Disable Visual Themes - it may also help if you set your Desktop Resolution to 16-bit (though only if you still have problems).

hero · « **Reply #2 on:** May 01, 2004, 08:56:01 am »

I tried to do that earlyer, but i cant find the compatibility tab.
i right click on the icon, select properties and all there is just general and shortcut.

hero · « **Reply #3 on:** May 01, 2004, 08:59:19 am »

i just went into program files in c drive, activision, sfc3 and then found SFC3 icon but in properties there is just "General" and "version" tab, no compatibility

Cleaven · « **Reply #4 on:** May 01, 2004, 09:58:08 am »

Did you follow all of Pestalence's instructions?

hero · « **Reply #5 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:13:28 am »

what intructions?
i right clicked on the SFC3 icon and selected properties and all there is, is a verion tab and a general one. no options

Cleaven · « **Reply #6 on:** May 01, 2004, 10:58:25 am »

Yes, well that explains a few things.

There is a thread stuck at the top of this forum regarding the latest patch and there is some useful info therein regarding the solving/avoidance of common problems.

I had to look twice to find the important link:

http://www.xenocorp.net/downloads/ftp/Starfleet_Command/Starfleet_Command_OP/SFC3.html

Pestalence · « **Reply #7 on:** May 01, 2004, 11:35:08 am »

Some mouse software may cause game to crash. Go to Start button, click RUN, type in MSCONFIG. In pop up box, click Start-up tab, uncheck any mouse software listed (your mouse will still work fine) and uncheck any other programs that you absolutely do not need when your system starts. Click OK and allow system to restart.

hero · « **Reply #8 on:** May 01, 2004, 12:50:52 pm »

still doesnt work
the thing i want to try is to disable the image thing from the capatilbility tab but it doesnt show up in properties, all there is, is a general tab and a version tab.
im gonna download directx 9.0b relist 35mb gonna take ages (3hrs) on 56k and try reinstalling directx 9.0b.
hopefully it'll work

Praxis · « **Reply #9 on:** May 01, 2004, 02:12:07 pm »

If you see no compatibility tab...

Then you're probably not running Windows XP.

98, I would guess?

hero · « **Reply #10 on:** May 01, 2004, 04:08:50 pm »

yep 98SE

Pestalence · « **Reply #11 on:** May 01, 2004, 04:12:21 pm »

post a Direct X report in the Starfleet Command 3 BETA bug reports forum.. this way we can take a look ar your system devices and Direct x components...

also describe exactly when the game stops working... IE, on loading screen, on playing movie, before mission launches...

Also i the SFC 3 game folder there is a file that logs error reports.. please post this file as well..

Thanks.

Klingon Fanatic · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2004, 04:38:33 pm »

Ok here's where I am:

I got the patches Dirext X, andthe patches installed but the flipping game says Insert CD which is already there and no joy!

The build number 1.01 531 appears in the lower right hand corner

The Run this program settings are also where they should be and still no joy.

KF

WIN XP
512 RAM

Pestalence · « **Reply #13 on:** May 01, 2004, 04:45:08 pm »

Go into Regedit (Start->Run, type in Regedit, click OK

go to :

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Activision\Star Trek Starfleet Command III

make sure that where it says CD that the Dirve letter is correct.. if not, then right click, select Modify and enter the correct drive letter...

Drive letter should be by default

D:

no slashes.

also make sure yor install patch is correct..

as such the default is :

InstallPath C:\PROGRA~1\ACTIVI~1\Sfc3

also make sure your install drive is the same as the CD drive

also check to make sure that the Version is 1.01, if it is not, you skipped installing the SFC 3 v500 patch.

Hope that this helps

Pestalence · « **Reply #14 on:** May 01, 2004, 04:48:16 pm »

Hero, you may want to go to the NVidia web site and look in their Driver Archive and step down a driver version or 2 and see if the game works...

hero · « **Reply #15 on:** May 01, 2004, 05:30:50 pm »

Hardware accelerated Direct3D 9+ is not available because the display driver does not support it. You may be able to get a newer driver from the hardware manufacturer.

name: 3dfx voodoo3
manu: 3dfx
aprox total memory: 15mb (but it says on the com 16mb)

drivers:
Main Driver: 3Dfx16v3.drv
version: 4.11.0001.0442 (english)
date 19/04/99
WHQL Logo'd: No
Mini VDD: 3Dfx3d.vxd
VDD: *vdd
DDI version: 6

btw my comp is:
packard bell
pentium 3
128mb ram
500mhz

error report:
Unhandled Exception! in Version 1.01 Build 531
SFC3.EXE caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module TAL3DENGINER.DLL at 017F:08886BBE

EAX=00000000 EBX=0129D9AB ECX=C16C9650 EDX=81769794 ESI=08CA6298
EDI=02000001 EBP=0129D98C ESP=0129D978 EIP=08886BBE FLG=00010246
CS=017F DS=0187 SS=0187 ES=0187 FS=318F GS=0000

017F:08886BBE (0x00000FFC 0x00000020 0x00000FFC 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
017F:0888730F (0x00000FFC 0x00000020 0x00000FFC 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
017F:BFF7363B (0x12AF6A22 0x000012AF 0x00000000 0xBFF719B8) KERNEL32.DLL, Ordinal121()+1879 byte(s)
017F:BFF94407 (0x0129E040 0xBFF7186D 0x69FC197F 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, UTUnRegister()+2523 byte(s)
~

well the game always comes up with this error right after the intro where picard talking in it. but just a sec ago when i tried it again it came up with a message saying something about it will be very slow then loaded the first screen where u select the mode u want to play, e.g. single, multi etc i then selected single and it didnt work again.
i think it must be coz i need a new driver for my graphics card, as the error report says at the top.

it then crashed.

Pestalence · « **Reply #16 on:** May 01, 2004, 05:52:57 pm »

Quote:

Hardware accelerated Direct3D 9+ is not available because the display driver does not support it. You may be able to get a newer driver from the hardware manufacturer.

name: 3dfx voodoo3
manu: 3dfx
aprox total memory: 15mb (but it says on the com 16mb)

drivers:
Main Driver: 3Dfx16v3.drv
version: 4.11.0001.0442 (english)
date 19/04/99
WHQL Logo'd: No
Mini VDD: 3Dfx3d.vxd
VDD: *vdd
DDI version: 6

btw my comp is:
packard bell
pentium 3
128mb ram
500mhz

error report:
Unhandled Exception! in Version 1.01 Build 531
SFC3.EXE caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module TAL3DENGINER.DLL at 017F:08886BBE

EAX=00000000 EBX=0129D9AB ECX=C16C9650 EDX=81769794 ESI=08CA6298
EDI=02000001 EBP=0129D98C ESP=0129D978 EIP=08886BBE FLG=00010246
CS=017F DS=0187 SS=0187 ES=0187 FS=318F GS=0000

017F:08886BBE (0x00000FFC 0x00000020 0x00000FFC 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
017F:0888730F (0x00000FFC 0x00000020 0x00000FFC 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
017F:BFF7363B (0x12AF6A22 0x000012AF 0x00000000 0xBFF719B8) KERNEL32.DLL, Ordinal121()+1879 byte(s)
017F:BFF94407 (0x0129E040 0xBFF7186D 0x69FC197F 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, UTUnRegister()+2523 byte(s)
~

well the game always comes up with this error right after the intro where picard talking in it. but just a sec ago when i tried it again it came up with a message saying something about it will be very slow then loaded the first screen where u select the mode u want to play, e.g. single, multi etc i then selected single and it didnt work again.
i think it must be coz i need a new driver for my graphics card, as the error report says at the top.

it then crashed.

As stated on the box cover and in the readme.rtf file found in you SFC3\Docs\help folder :

Quote:

A 100% DirectX compliant 3-D video card is required. Star Trek Starfleet Command III uses DirectX 8.1 to support 3-D hardware acceleration. Star Trek Starfleet Command III has been tested on many but not all of the major cards incorporating the chipsets listed below:

·   nVidia? Riva TNT and TNT2
·   All nVidia? GeForce chipsets
·   ATI® Rage 128
·   All ATI® Radeon chipsets
·   Matrox® G400 & G550
·   Kyro® 1 and 2
·   Intel® i810e

Your video card may not be able to support the game.. I would suggest finding a cheap Geforce 4 or FX card and replacing the one that you have.

Voodoo cards are not 100% Direct X 8.1 compliant.

Hope that this helps.

hero · « **Reply #17 on:** May 01, 2004, 06:16:00 am »

I jsut got it installed itand added the directx 9.0b patch and i get this message:
Unhandled Exception! in Version 1.00 Build 435
SFC3.EXE caused an EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION in module TAL3DENGINER.DLL at 017F:03646BBE

EAX=00000000 EBX=0127D92B ECX=C16CA1A0 EDX=8177BB58 ESI=09CD6298
EDI=02000001 EBP=0127D90C ESP=0127D8F8 EIP=03646BBE FLG=00010246
CS=017F DS=0187 SS=0187 ES=0187 FS=53F7 GS=0000

017F:03646BBE (0x00000AD4 0x00000020 0x00000AD4 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
017F:0364730F (0x00000AD4 0x00000020 0x00000AD4 0x02000001) TAL3DENGINER.DLL
017F:BFF7363B (0x136F69A2 0x0000136F 0x00000000 0xBFF719B8) KERNEL32.DLL, Ordinal121()+1879 byte(s)
017F:BFF94407 (0x0127E040 0xBFF7186D 0x697C60C7 0x00000000) KERNEL32.DLL, UTUnRegister()+2523 byte(s)

I then uninstalled it and added the v500 patch WITHOUT THE DIRECTX9.0B patch coz i know its already included in v500.
and i get the same message but with build 500 instead of 435

i then installed the v531 patch
and i get the annoying message again

the game intro plays with picard talking but after that nothing works. please help, im desperate to get playing

The_Pelican · « **Reply #18 on:** May 01, 2004, 07:21:35 am »

Right click on SFC3.exe, select Properties/Compatability Options & Disable Visual Themes - it may also help if you set your Desktop Resolution to 16-bit (though only if you still have problems).

hero · « **Reply #19 on:** May 01, 2004, 08:56:01 am »

I tried to do that earlyer, but i cant find the compatibility tab.
i right click on the icon, select properties and all there is just general and shortcut.

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