Topic: Azel ... you up to doing another little project (Read 6127 times)

olbuzzard · « **on:** April 26, 2004, 07:43:24 am »

This time it has to do with the Klingons. There is something that has always bugged me about their DN's and BB's with the 4 nacelles on the back end. To me their ships have always been really cool looking and a bit more stream line in apearance... that is until the thing with the 4 nacelles came along.

BTW... this has nothing to do with anyones particular ability to do a great job of modeling these particular ships. There is just something that I would like to do to make those big ships look better and maybe not so bulky and awkward on the back end.

If this is offensive to anyone .. just let me know ... and we'll drop the subject with out persuing the matter any further. If everything is cool .. then I would like to see what can be done with the larger DN's and the BB's that follow those formats. (For now ... just thinking out loud ... brain storming .. ) Oh and yes .. I do have a couple of theories on the matter.

thanks

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2004, 08:35:48 am »

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This time it has to do with the Klingons. There is something that has always bugged me about their DN's and BB's with the 4 nacelles on the back end. To me their ships have always been really cool looking and a bit more stream line in apearance... that is until the thing with the 4 nacelles came along.

BTW... this has nothing to do with anyones particular ability to do a great job of modeling these particular ships. There is just something that I would like to do to make those big ships look better and maybe not so bulky and awkward on the back end.

If this is offensive to anyone .. just let me know ... and we'll drop the subject with out persuing the matter any further. If everything is cool .. then I would like to see what can be done with the larger DN's and the BB's that follow those formats. (For now ... just thinking out loud ... brain storming .. ) Oh and yes .. I do have a couple of theories on the matter.

thanks

Go for it buddy !!!!! The only limits we have are the ones we place on ourselves -MP

Azel · « **Reply #3 on:** April 26, 2004, 02:05:46 pm »

I'm in

starforce2 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 26, 2004, 02:11:53 pm »

I've always hated the fat, square nacelled designs. WZ has one and while it's a fine model and one of the best I've seen of the particular class, it's ugly...lol

olbuzzard · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2004, 10:24:20 pm »

okie... here's a rough.. ( and i do mean ROUGH ! ) draft .. top and partial front ( some obvious detail missing) This is for the C-5 to C-9 series only ... the B10's ( BB's and super BB's ) will be done somewhat different. Again the idea was to get the Klingon heavies back to a more sleek design .. ( the main ones used in the games so far seem to have an awful lot of bulky mass on the back end .. and is not proportionate to the rest of the ship. ( And that kind of ashamed too... ) IMHO the Kligon ships are more effecient in power consumption and really dont need that mass in that resspect.

Once again I mean no offense to the current development of those ships ... but it just seems out of charactor. Also, if this works ( it is accepted ) we have a couple more... one for the BB's and supper BB's .... and one last one that I'ms still sketching out ... It is the match-up for something like the Titan .. ( Ok ... I Know ... there hasn't been one mentioned in ST just yet. I just feel as though the Klingons have been a bit over looked and I 'm trying in myy own feeble way to help out a little)

Thanks

Azel · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2004, 10:42:56 pm »

OH OK....I see
they are intergrated into the Hull
like my Klingon One wing

olbuzzard · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2004, 10:48:22 pm »

yes... this is one version .. the other idea is to make a "two-in-one" nacelle. Also ... we dressed up the over all hull design as well. It is sleeker and more proportionate ( top view came out pretty fair )... you should see the BB series !!!

The really fun one will be the Titan match up ... you will have to help clean up what has been called the "batman look" heheh ... oh well .. it's cool !

Azel · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2004, 11:12:28 pm »

Look at this:
TNG Klingon One-Wing
Top:

belly:

Reverend · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2004, 11:40:39 pm »

I remember that one... once again, why wasn't it made? The Borath you made was a great model, wish you would have made another one, i.e., the one-wing.. its great!

Ditto on all previous posts.. hope something gets worked out on this, Klingons are always fun to play!

MajorRacal · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2004, 04:18:30 am »

As I'm sure Azel will testify, I'm really not a fan of multiple nacelle ships. Generally I find they look ungainly and cumbersome, so I am especially delighted to see this form of revision taking place in the Klingon ranks - I'm REALLY keen to see where this one goes...

MajorRacal

MajorRacal · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2004, 06:56:23 am »

As for Azel's One Wing, I started working on her ages ago but I got stuck and haven't looked at her since. Anyway. this was as far as I got...
http://majorracal.tripod.com/

olbuzzard · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2004, 07:34:36 am »

1. Azel ... that looks great as a post TNG ... and I LIKE IT !!!

2. The series I'm attempting to redo is for the C-5's through 9's ( these would work for either SFC-2 or 3)

3. MajorRacal is right on the money ... particularly the way the Klingon ships were handled. Again I'm not trying to be offensive .. ( if I'm out of line here ... sing out and we will let this go here and now ... we are not trying to stir something up. There is enough grief going around in the world without causing stuff in a place where we are all trying to get along, have fun and share ideas.) At any rate I just feel as though the bulky "awkward looking" hulls with anywhere from 4 to 6 nacelles were also disproportionate, almost "stubby" in apearance, which futher added to their "awkard" apearance.

4. Klingon ships are considerably more energy effecient and should be able to be a lot more sleek, and built for the tough battles for which their race is known for. Around the nacelles there should be more detail ( hmmmm at the risk of sounding really out of step ... ) exposed parts (???) ... for lack of a better term.

5. That is why I would like to build a ship for them that is updated with the times to go with the "Titan" concept reguardless of wheather mine is built or not. There was one really good one built.. I even mentioned it in the G.A.W. short story for my sons Mod ... I'm at work and cant access it right now. That one was pretty cool too !!

At any rate I am looking forward to working with you guys .. Azel and anyone who will help with the modeling, to try to make things right ... ( that is if this concept is accepted ..) if not... then we STILL need to work on this ! It is the right thing to do !

thanks

olbuzzard · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2004, 07:41:24 am »

BTW... Azel ... know what is funny ... take that one wing ... and modify it ... where there are two "necks" ... and that is sort of what i did for the new Klingon ship that matches the Titan .. really ironic... it's a bit different .. you'll see in time... lets get this first one done then the BB's ... When you see the last one you are going to swear we copied parts of it ... LOL

I guess that is why I enjoy your work so much !! Looks like we think a lot a like in many areas !! You skill however is absloutley awsome !!

Azel · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2004, 09:35:21 am »

A twin headded Klingon......

olbuzzard · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2004, 10:05:59 am »

You'll see.. hehe man this is fun... mean time bud "ROCK 'N ROLL" bud ... do your thing and lets smoke this baby !! This is honest the most fun I'v had on thsi game since the days of SG-1 and the early days of the Triangle !

Let's do it bud !!

olbuzzard · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2004, 09:29:00 pm »

Azel sir.... ready for you do your thing bud.

There a couple of ways to aproach the redesign of the Klingon DN's and BB's ... BTW... I still have not finished the counter part to the Titan. If these are accepted ... then I have a light cruiser and a battle cruiser as well.. (more TNG style than anything else) .. soooo lets see how far these go first

Tus · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2004, 09:33:58 pm »

nice, my only thing is that the bb back end probably should be wider and longer, looks a bit out of proportion with that neck

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