Topic: Damn, Enterprise really ticked me off this week!

[Age]

   Then don't watch if you do I am assumeing you are rather liking the show.It is just in here you become one of those who are an agreeable persons one who agrees with a group of people instead of having independent thought of thier own virtue.I hope you understand what I am saying it is just another TV show after all you can either like or not the choice is yours.You made the choice to watch it that tells me you like it if you didn't why waste your time watching it go in gsa and play some game.  

[ghostcamel]

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   Then don't watch  

Thats one problem, too few people watch the show as it is.

 

[Age]

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   Then don't watch  

Thats one problem, too few people watch the show as it is.

   

I don't know but Rick is doing everyhing he can to save the Trek franchise.  

[FFZ]

 I commented a few weeks ago that they would find a a way to make the ship opperational again, and they did.

As usual, the show was frought with stupid mistakes (but it was nice to see the guy that played Legit DeMar show up as the vitimized captain), such as, the totally unnessisary attack on the other ship. The argument was, the other ship would take years to get home. Could not archer have said he would go get these guys after the current crisis? Does that planet only have one warpship? These are GIANT plot holes.

BTW, Archer was released because three of the council ordered it, and showed up in the Fish pod, this was shown (him leaving the pod, and the council meeting). They also showed why the reptiles stopped attacking, the council was against it.

The T'Pol drug thing is typical B&B throw stuff out there, they needed the quick fix (pardon the pun) for why a Vulcan could not control herself, and, as usual, they took the easiet way out.

Once Archer had decided on the pirate attack, the stuff about not hurting them was stupid, Enterprise was nearly crippled, showing extremly bad judgement by Archer.

This show seems doomed.    

[Ravok]

 Wasn't it mentioned that mind melds were considered a perversion, Because it made Vulcan's emotion  junkies?  

[Deviak]

uhhhh...Enterprise is still on?...hehe   , to the guy that said he don't like some of the SG1 actors..which ones?..All of them have their good and bad qualities. I'm rather thrilled to see what the next season will be like..Plus the Star Trek franchise, I've decided to lock it off now, makes no sense to keep anything in mind for Star Trek.

It's too stagnant and even though it doesn't seem that way. Not a lot of people are interested in Star Trek anymore..probably why the writers of Enterprise go overboard? And if anything, I'm looking forward to a good Babylon 5 game. Of course, the IFH project will be nice, but right now I'm really looking forward to Nexus the Jupiter Incident.

So as far as Star Trek, too little too late I'm afraid.    

[CFA_Admiral_Tige]

Just a note thats was naggin at me for a while

I dont know if anyone else picked up on this, but this absolutely HAS to be an alternate timeline.

The Ferengi were not met face to face until picard faced them.  The earliar Enterprise episode threw away all that, so this has to be a diff. timeline

just a though

Tiger  

[DiggityDank]

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Just a note thats was naggin at me for a while

I dont know if anyone else picked up on this, but this absolutely HAS to be an alternate timeline.

The Ferengi were not met face to face until picard faced them.  The earliar Enterprise episode threw away all that, so this has to be a diff. timeline

just a though

Tiger  

Yea those are called continuity errors  

[Lieutenant_Q]

Lest we forget this travesty...

Sato: "They're hailing..."
Archer nods
Sato presses a button, to herself: "Oops...wrong button, better not let the Captain find out or I'll lose my job."
Sato presses the correct button.
Comm: "...You will be assimilated. Resistance is Futile."  

[SSCF_LeRoy]

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Lest we forget this travesty...

Sato: "They're hailing..."
Archer nods
Sato presses a button, to herself: "Oops...wrong button, better not let the Captain find out or I'll lose my job."
Sato presses the correct button.
Comm: "...You will be assimilated. Resistance is Futile."    

Then over 200 years later, Picard recollects the "Enterprise NX-01 vs Unknown Cybernetic Beings" Incident from his high school history class realizes, "So that's who they were!"    

[Age]

    What else is new.  

[IKV Nemesis D7L]

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3. The Enterprise attacks and steals a warp core from a helpless alien race like some kind of pirate ship.

Amazing to how it didn't occur to anyone to ask the aliens to tow the Enterprise to the rendezvous?  At least they could have asked to have an emissary taken to the rendezvous and asked the Xindi renegades for help at the meeting.    

[Magnum357]

I think the Alien ship that Enterprise encountered was proabably way too small too tow effectively.  But regardless, I agree with others their are huge plot holes in all this and can get very confusing.

As for T'pol's emotional addictions, I thought her emotional outbursts were due too the effects of the expanse.  We saw at the end of season 2 that Vulcans that enter the expanse suffer from these problems.  Now B&B say T'pol is acting like this because shes addicted too that... well, what ever that substance was.  I'm all confused now.    

What I don't get is why does the Enterprise have too find the weapon at all?  Why not just build more ships, establish a defense perimeter around earth, setup some long range out posts at the edges of the Sol System and mount a huge defense against the Xindi?  The Xindi fleet doesn't looke that big, and with the help of the Vulcans, they could put up a good fight against them in the sol system.  Sounds like much better odds then what they are trying too do.  

I still think this whole thing HAS too be an alternate timeline or different Universe because their is no way this is the same Star Trek universe we all know.  On the other hand, why did Braga and Berman introduce the Borg in all this in Season two?  UHG!!!  

[KRolling]

I haven't watched Enterprise in the last two years.

Is Archer still getting hit in the head, with the butt of a gun, in every episode?

[IKV Nemesis D7L]

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I haven't watched Enterprise in the last two years.

Is Archer still getting hit in the head, with the butt of a gun, in every episode?  

No.  They now alternate with punching him in the stomach.    

[IKV Nemesis D7L]

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I think the Alien ship that Enterprise encountered was proabably way too small too tow effectively.  But regardless, I agree with others their are huge plot holes in all this and can get very confusing.

My 2nd option of couriering an emissary would resolve that.  If worried that the Xindi would not contact the alien vessel, it could have carried an Enterprise shuttlepod and the Acquatics shuttle and dropped them off while pulling back from sensor range but within subspace radio range.  Once the Xindi picked up the emissary and agreed to return them to Enterprise the aliens could have gone on their way with the anomoly shielding material.

This type of behaviour could have been seen by the Xindi as an indication that humans are inclined to building alliances (backing Archers human built future Federation claims) and are not the destroyers portrayed to the Xindi by their backers.

But B&B wanted Archer to act the bad guy.  What are the odds that later Enterprise will encounter that ship either destroyed or turn into raiders themselves?  He didn't even ask the Xindi to help them which would have been the least he could do.  The Xindi renegades would have found that easier to justify than helping humans.  

[EmeraldEdge]

I just think they have no idea what they are writing anymore, and may not even care.  The excuse from day one for Vulcans in Enterprise acting far more emotional was that Vulcans have the full range of emotions, they just suppress them.  Now we have T'Pol doing "drugs" in order to experiment with new emotions, and even delivers a line like "Vulcans don't experience fear".  What?!?!? I thought they experienced them but suppressed, according to B&B.  In addition, they now say that due to damage and alteration to her nervous system she may have these emotions with her permanently.  Ugh!  The funny thing is that none of this explains why any of the other Vulcans on the series have behaved so emotionally.  Shouting, storming out of the room, etc.  There have been quite a few comments from people about the ambassador at the very least.  Perhaps he's a Trellium junky too.  He probably sent the ship that got twisted around in there to get some to support his habit, right?

So, B&B are working on a non-trek sci-fi series eh?  Well, that's hopefully telling.  Hopefully it's a way for them to make a "graceful" exit.  You know, the kind of "I wasn't fired, I left on my own to pursue new creative ventures" type of thing, when everyone knows that they were two steps from gettin' axed.  They clearly have no clue.

Yeah, they should have asked the other captain for a ride to the location.  Would have solved a number of problems.  Not the least of which would be that when the reptillians showed up, they wouldn't have seen the Xindi ship docked with Enterprise.  Hmmm.  Anyhow...  

[Lieutenant_Q]

Now remember, the ever emotional Soval is a Romulan.    The rest of the Vulcans, the few that we've seen, are quite reasonable.

And it has been established in earlier TOS, TNG episodes that Vulcans have the same emoitions, its just a misconception, spread by the Vulcans, lying about their emotions.  How about that, they lie too.  


The blatent disregard for the "Timeline" with this Temporal Cold War is really getting out of hand.  The Federation, or whatever organization exists in the future, needs to arrest these people for violating the most sacred rule in the Federation Rule books.  The Temporal Prime Directive.  What ever happened to that rule anyway?  Oh yeah, B&B decided to throw it out the air lock in Broken Bow.    

[FFZ]

  There is a possible 'out,' a typical B&B solution.

It is possible that when the Xindi thing is settled, the timeline interferance is reversed, and in effect, none of it happened, including the future with the time travel boy. The resolution could be worked out in a way that erases the transdimentional aliens, which in turn eliminates Future-boy's interference, which in turn eliminates the temporal cold war.

Once all of that happenes, the regular Kirk-picard timeline is restored.

I'm not saying it will go down that way, but it would solve a number of problems, and B&B are known for taking the stupidest way out of problems.  

[Scipio_66]

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The Federation, or whatever organization exists in the future, needs to arrest these people for violating the most sacred rule in the Federation Rule books.  The Temporal Prime Directive.  What ever happened to that rule anyway?  Oh yeah, B&B decided to throw it out the air lock in Broken Bow.    

You can't try them for that.  There is no Federation, and that law hasn't been written yet.  Unless the Federation makes the Temporal Directive an ex post facto law, which would sort of violate their principles.

Is this the most sacred rule?  I thought the most sacred rule was General Order 12:  Federation personel should not go to Talos IV or they will be exterrrrrrrrminated."

-S'Cipio