Topic: Which SFC game is your favorite? (Read 32260 times)

Demandred · « **Reply #140 on:** February 28, 2003, 07:25:24 am »

OP. If only it hadn't been crippled by bugs...

jdmckinney · « **Reply #141 on:** February 28, 2003, 07:49:54 am »

Ditto. When it works (if ever), OP will be recognized as the best of the breed.

FireSoul · « **Reply #142 on:** February 28, 2003, 07:52:14 am »

The results of this post should be interesting.
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762 · « **Reply #143 on:** February 28, 2003, 08:28:02 am »

I had to say EAW...however, when/if OP is ever patched to an equivalent of 2.0.3.6, it will be the best.

DONOTDELETE · « **Reply #144 on:** February 28, 2003, 09:56:43 am »

Ditto, I voted for EAW, but if Arctic ever resurfaces and
manages to fix the OP D2 then that would be where it's at!
(Hopefully we haven't heard from him because he's been
working on it all this time...)

Rhaz · « **Reply #145 on:** February 28, 2003, 11:04:24 am »

Gotta be - OP

More races, more weapons, (now) has the EAW missions + the stock ones, more ERA's

Rhaz

Scipio_66 · « **Reply #146 on:** February 28, 2003, 12:36:10 pm »

EAW, and by a wide margin!

None of the other three games have anything like playing SFB on the dynaverse. I bought EAW hours before it hit the shelves (I made the stock boy go in the back ang get it) and I still play it almost daily when I'm not busy designing new D2 campaigns.

The other two were good;
*SFC1 was fantastic, and very worth the money I spent on it. But it had nothing like the DV. There is nothing wrong with SFC1, it's just been supplanted.
*OP kept all the old D2 bugs from EAW (including the three-year-old unfixed patrol bug), and then introduced more. It can be pared down to it's good essence (and I'm sure it will be if anyone ever fixes it's D2) but I'll still never completely forgive it for taking that first big step onto the slipperly slope of SFC3.

SFC3..... just not my bag. 'Nuf said. I do wish it had a different name.

But of course, the BEST version will be GAW (you know...... some day) -- It should have all the fun of EAW but with a greatly ehanced Dyna experience and more admin controls over how the universe operates. Keep hope alive!

-S'Cipio

762 · « **Reply #147 on:** February 28, 2003, 01:49:22 pm »

I hereby change my vote to GAW!

Mr. Hypergol · « **Reply #148 on:** February 28, 2003, 03:00:51 pm »

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I hereby change my vote to GAW!

Me too!!! GAW!!!

Let's finish EAW's storyline.

Tyranus · « **Reply #149 on:** February 28, 2003, 03:15:54 pm »

SFC 1 for me, the original. why, you may ask? somthing about that game just made it seem more as if you were a part of the race you choose to play as. the familiar picture of your races capital city on your homeworld in your home sector, and pictures of your races starbases when you moved to other sectors was somthing i really liked. if they just incorporated that orginal setup into these newer games in would have enjoyed them much more.

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #150 on:** February 28, 2003, 03:31:49 pm »

I agree with the racial flavoring of SFC1. They had racial screens at every level, obviously the pattern of SFC in this manner is disturbing. At this rate, SFC4 will be an all text game with a single font and no graphics at all.

I have to install SFC1 every so often just to get the flavor (I play a lot of Fed on SFC1, to get the Trek feel)

Overall though, I'm still holding out hope for OP. If it get's fixed, it's D2, it will be the best game out of the bunch. Sure, it lacks the racial flavoring of screens on SFC1 but it's got so much more including a Dynaverse. The only thing EAW has going for it at this point is that it got fixed and OP didn't. Had OP recieved even a fraction of the attention from Taldren that EAW did you would be able to make a "pure" eaw server with the advances in OP (like arcs and maulers, which are very useful despite what some say) and you would be able to have a stock OP setup with Advanced era. For modders surely there could be no greater game than OP since it offers a much larger variety of weapons and variables to work with.

In short: OP.

IndyShark · « **Reply #151 on:** February 28, 2003, 05:39:11 pm »

Orion Pirates!

The_Joker · « **Reply #152 on:** March 01, 2003, 03:18:54 am »

I voted SFC1. Its because of the overall fun I had with it EAW and OP might have more going for them. SFC3 is a damned site prettier.

But........

Nothing will beat the old days of smack talking and everyone being in the same place on mplayer.

Tulmahk · « **Reply #153 on:** March 01, 2003, 06:34:15 am »

The responses here tell me just why it is the SFC line is now essentially over, and why it would be best for the next Trek starship sim to come from a different developer and producer (Taldren is going to kick major ass at console games with Black-9 sounding wonderful, and I'd be shocked if Activision wanted to do another ST ship sim given the lack of popoularity of this one).

Time to leave all the baggage far, far behind. A fresh start would be best.

DONOTDELETE · « **Reply #154 on:** March 01, 2003, 07:05:25 am »

Do enlighten us, how exactly do the responses here explain to you why the SFC series should be over?

Because those who posted prefered the ORIGINAL concept SFC/SFB, and not the current "generation"?

What it shows me, is that there is a pretty damn good reason for the sales of SFC3 to be in the tank, as was the box office take for Nemesis...

Have a nice day!

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #157 on:** March 01, 2003, 10:44:15 am »

You can't be saying the reviews of SFC3 were accurate. Most were spewing forth carbon copies of the press releases. Several mentioned missiles in the game, and almost every single one I read contained some information about the game that was just incorrect. Not to mention the fact that sometimes it's reviewer specific. I believe it was gamespy that did a review of Disney's Treasure Planet and slammed it hard for being a space combat game but stuck on a 2d plane, and so forth. Sound familiar? And yet their review of SFC3 took none of these same things into account when handing out the score. I don't think any of the SFC3 reviewers spent much time playing the game at all. Most of the time, when reading them, it seemed like they booted it up and saw the pretty pictures did a couple of missions and put the game away. Anyhow, I would be willing to put a lot more weight on what the reveiws said, had they not been so wildly inaccurate on many things.

In addition, I'm not sure how giving the game a patch would have helped it along in sales. And a demo? Well maybe, but the combat is just too simplistic, it might have scared away as many as it brought in. Even still, I'm not sure where this massive silent majority of people who loathe SFB in the game and are longing to have a Trek game without it are. Surely they must have noticed the label on the box advertising that the game didn't use SFB mechanics. Most people buy the game, not caring what's under the hood, they just want a good gaming experience, imho.

I think another thing that may have really hurt the sales of 3, is Taldren's history of buggy games that take eons to fix, or never get fixed. People started to get the name SFC tied to "could be fun, but never really worked right" in their brain. I don't think a pared down demo of SFC3 would have helped that mentality very much.

As I said, I don't care if a game is SFB, but I think we would probably have been better off if 3 had been more SFB based, as it would have meant more depth of play, which is the most important thing imho. By saying this wasn't going to be SFB based, and hyping a new combat system that would be easier but just as deep, then delivering a game with monotone combat they may have actually caused more people to cry for the old system rather than jumpin' to see what could be done next by leaving the old behind. That's the sad part.

Nennennetikkkker · « **Reply #159 on:** March 01, 2003, 12:32:05 pm »

There is no way anyone who has 'lived' the SFB experience can ever say that SFC in any form will ever surpass it. I remember playing huge campaigns that my local gaming club made star charts for and us players would meet at lunch to discuss our moves and then if there was conflict we would set a date to play via counters and dice entire fleets of ships with almost a hundred fighters, shuttles and drones... So naturally when SFC came out we thought, maybe this will make up for all the time we lost. It was a welcome respite to do it on a screen, but had an empty, not quite finished feeling. There was always the nagging, "If I coulda," that the pen and paper game allowed that was lost in SFC.

BUT...SFC still did attempt to fill the void albeit less than perfect or absolut. And far better that somebody else code it than I. (That way we can all blame the incessant bugs on someone else!!)

Whis is better? Discounting the bugs, EAW and OP were equally good for their purposes while a big thumbs down goes to SFC3. The interface and feel for SFC3 is just not the same flavor. I do like the refit options in a way, but then all you end up doing is building something that you end up selling. All in all, SFC3 just seems to be and overall MOD to SFC2.

Something else that was a dead give away to SFC3's cookie cutter appearance was, as previously mentioned, the reviews. It truly was like none of the reviewers really tried playing the game. They probably started it up and saw the same screens and said, "Oh, same game, same review."

I still have SFC2EAW loaded on my machine alongside SFC3. If I ever got short on Hard Drive space, SFC3 would be the one to go away.

BTW, IMHO.....Activision sux! No support for anything. Rude support people. Just print it, box it and ship it is their motto.

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