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sandman69247

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Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« on: April 23, 2004, 08:13:32 pm »
Decided to another pre-TOS ship, been awhile since I added anything to Heritage Shipyards. This is the Avenger class fromSF Museum. I named and reg'd her in honor of my favorite NASCAR driver, #2 Rusty Wallace, who just broke a 105 race win drought last week. This going to be a scout, lightly armed but very fast. I see it as the Fed answer to the B'Rel class BoP. Let me know what you think.




 

Azel

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2004, 08:14:59 pm »
Cool!!!

 

sandman69247

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2004, 08:19:40 pm »
Thanx  

E_Look

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2004, 09:26:06 pm »
Nice lines, nice design!

Rod O'neal

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2004, 09:53:51 pm »
I love your pre-TOS ships. It's kinda like stepping into Parrish's holodeck pgm on Voyager. You really capture the "old" sci-fi feeling well.

What the heck was the name of that program, anyway? I know that it was a take off of Flash Gordon, but the name escapes me.  

Azel

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2004, 11:39:33 pm »
Captain Proton!!!!  

sandman69247

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2004, 01:18:04 am »
Thanx!!

These ships are very fun to build...I sit and envision whole scenarios for the ships, "see" them zipping through space, imagine an encounter with a new alien race...basically my own little Trek universe.  

Terradyhne

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2004, 02:11:56 am »
maybe you envision something like that  

   

Marauth

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2004, 08:12:12 am »
V. Cool, could u change the registry to NCC-D2 though? so it would then make sense to have such an insanely low registry on a ship that was made after the Enterprise, all the sfmuseum Avengers and Predators have this destroyer prefix which I think makes sense but wouldn't fit with canon So yeah it's cool but not really pre-tos.

Nice mesh but that saucer aztec is looking a little distorted, I guess it was made for one of your ships with a circular saucer and now it wont fit the weird Avenger saucer bulge. Still, should look good when done.
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red_green

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2004, 01:19:28 pm »
I love it. Speacially the nacels. Real smooth lines and nice taper. Hey Terradyne, nice screenie btw.

sandman69247

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2004, 01:25:35 pm »
Yep, that's the kind of scene I "see" in my mind, .

Yeah, I tried to get that fixed, but evrything else came out wierd, so I decided to leave as is, not really noticable at game distances. The Reg I can change, NP...I'll just leave it this way for personal use. And, after Enterprise, nothing at SFM is canon, so...

Ok, did some more texturing before work, here's a little looksee...




 

Marauth

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2004, 01:30:57 pm »
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And, after Enterprise, nothing at SFM is canon, so...




f.c.u.k. 'em: Enterprise isn't canon as far as I'm concerned - Star Trek ended with Voyager/First Contact for me, anything after is just bollax from Berman and Braga

(BTW fcuk is a clothing brand for those who don't know )

sandman69247

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2004, 01:32:54 pm »
Yeah, I work at a major dept. store...imagine my surprise when I walked by the fragrances counter and saw a bottle of f.c.u.k. cologne...did a double take, I did.  

ModelsPlease

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2004, 04:18:32 pm »
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And, after Enterprise, nothing at SFM is canon, so...




f.c.u.k. 'em: Enterprise isn't canon as far as I'm concerned - Star Trek ended with Voyager/First Contact for me, anything after is just bollax from Berman and Braga

(BTW fcuk is a clothing brand for those who don't know )  





I'll second that F**K 'em and add a G.T.F.H  Berman and Braga, for me Star Trek ended with " All Good Things " and  ' End Game"  

Terradyhne

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2004, 04:41:12 am »
sorry for that but you made something like an impulse drive out of the shuttlebay  

sandman69247

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2004, 11:13:21 am »
I know...looked wierd with a shuttlebay there, so did an impulse. Like I said, I see this as more of an scout than a DD...hell, maybe we'll just call her a new class, based on the Avenger. I mean, they had no impulse drive that I could see...

Sorry, but with some of these ships, I feel I need to alter them a little, to make them fit my personal outlook on ST. If there is a big enough outcry, I'll do 2 versions...this one and the one from the SFM. Otherwise, she stands as is, excepting minor alterations.
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Marauth

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2004, 08:38:23 pm »
the impulse is the standard constitution impulse drive mounted sideways on on the rear of the neck, it's on the schematics.

sandman69247

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2004, 02:26:39 am »
That's the impulse? OK, thought it might have been like a point defense phaser mount...my bad.  

DarkMatrix

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2004, 03:00:36 am »
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That's the impulse? OK, thought it might have been like a point defense phaser mount...my bad.  




looking good so far man  

as for the above just call her a refit

DM

Terradyhne

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2004, 03:33:13 am »
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That's the impulse? OK, thought it might have been like a point defense phaser mount...my bad.  




looking good so far man  

as for the above just call her a refit

DM  




ha thats a realy cool idea, call all that is not made like the original a " refit "    

sandman69247

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #20 on: April 26, 2004, 10:59:55 am »
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That's the impulse? OK, thought it might have been like a point defense phaser mount...my bad.  




looking good so far man  

as for the above just call her a refit

DM  




ha thats a realy cool idea, call all that is not made like the original a " refit "    




My thoughts exactly. I already went in and saved the file as "Avenger", which will be re-worked to more fit the diagram, for those who insist on such things, and another saved as "Wallace", which will be a refit design.

One reason I had for changing it slightly was, I knew Terradhyne had done the ship, and his was very good, so why do it again? We have so many models by different modelers that look almost exactly the same...I figured it would be cool to have something a little different, but...seems there are some that want you stick exactly to the schematics. I wonder, if WZ did the same, would he be told to change it back? Probably not.  

Anyway, sorry for the little rant...sometimes feel like if I don't do it exactly as diagramed, I'll get told off. I know I'm not in WZ class, but I have at least made the effort and expense to try, and IMHO, I do a fairly good job, though I admit, my texturing needs a lot of work. But, I do ask in my wip threads what ya'll think, so...

OK, no more pics till I'm just about finished...I'll have side by side pics of both.  

red_green

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #21 on: April 26, 2004, 12:17:46 pm »
Looking good Sandman. As far as following shcematics. I see them as just a guide. It all comes down to personal taste really. Myself I don't care too much for doing Feds, cause there is a preconceived ideas as to how they have to look. Makes me feel boxed in.  

Sandman3D

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #22 on: April 26, 2004, 01:45:40 pm »
Well, maybe it's good you felt boxed in...your Hydrans are awesome!! I still need to do a render for you don't I? I'll do one up and send it to you later tonight after work.  

Azel

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Re: Federation pre-TOS Avenger Class (WIP)
« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2004, 02:25:36 pm »
 Man is she looking Sweet SM!!!!
 
You da man

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 Looking good Sandman. As far as following shcematics. I see them as just a guide. It all comes down to personal taste really. Myself I don't care too much for doing Feds, cause there is a preconceived ideas as to how they have to look. Makes me feel boxed in.  



I say "F" That ...
Those who know me KNOW that I looking to push the envelope on designs.
The UFP is comprised of hundreds( HUNDREDS...lol) of worlds....So I use that as my basis
and defence in designing ships that look too alien to be a fed.
R-G...you are one of my favorite modellers out there because you do think outside the box
and are willing to go ahead and model your ideas.