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Alidar Jarok

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Enterpise
« on: April 21, 2004, 08:12:16 pm »
Anyone besides me see the episode tonight.  I thought it was pretty cool.

And I'm not easily impressed - Wow, a blue car!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Alidar Jarok »

TheJudge

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2004, 09:25:47 pm »
I'm about halfway through it and wondering what the hell is up with T'Pol

Kortez

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2004, 11:02:18 pm »
I thought it was a tremendous disappointment and let down, especially after a cool last episode.  They are back on terrible episodes again.

I guess this show is not going to be back.
 

Rat_Boy

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2004, 11:16:24 pm »
Boy, is this going to be controversial.  Archer makes Sisko from "In the Pale Moonlight" look like a jaywalker by comparison.

TheJudge

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2004, 12:09:35 am »
I liked this episode after watching it twice through.  T'Pol's behavior throughout the last few episodes was finally explained and is a nice rehash of the drug addiction...except in a vulcan.  Then there was the whole Archer going pirate in order to save Earth.

It fits into the current geo-political situation in regards to the War on Terrorism.  Is Archer's act of piracy, the attack and theft of a warp coil from an alien species truly justified?  It makes for a lot of uncomfortable issues and is reminiscent of the Picard debate in First Contact with the Alfre Woodward character.

 

Kortez

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2004, 08:21:40 am »
T'Pol seeking emotions is almost impossible to believe, even in light of her experience with the Vulcans who forced emotions upon her.  I suppose one might say that lead to her action, but I just see it as further BAD writing.

The  only surprise, for me, was seeing the alien who's manipulating things and that she-he-or-whatever is not a known race.  THAT surprised me.  I was wrong thinking it was, well, never mind ... but being wrong is a good thing.  Like the God Emperor of Dune, I want to be surprised in these shows.


 

Sten

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2004, 08:45:15 am »
Mebbe the whole seeking emotions thing is a by product of being exposed to the trellium in the exspanse.

Kind of like smoking, or heroin once you get a taste its hard to stop. You start making stupid decisions that would not normally make. So she starts exploring emotions further.

She was already exposed to empoints in a past season when that group of Vulcan emotion cultist were allowed on the Enterprise. So she has already opened Pandora's box.

The Trellium exsposure has simply kicked open the door.

Besides I liked it when she turned into a vulcan Zombie in the shower with Tripp!

Alidar Jarok

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2004, 08:54:04 am »
Quote:

I thought it was a tremendous disappointment and let down, especially after a cool last episode.  They are back on terrible episodes again.

I guess this show is not going to be back.
 




I don't think the episode is bad, but, if you don't look at it the right way, it would seem worse.  Don't look at it as the conclusion to Azati Prime, rather as the continuation of the conclusion's mini-arc.

Gambler

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2004, 09:38:01 am »
Decent episode but I cannot condone the actions taken by Archer to steal the warp coil from the other ship, causing damage to it in the process.  Sure you left them *some* food.  Sure you left them *some* trellium to shield themselves.  But they have also been left helpless in the expanse.  Open to attack by anyone.  Not the best way to win friends and influence people.

mc_cloud

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2004, 10:36:38 am »
those aliens almost looked like caradasians.....

or that guys voice (sounded like damar from ds9) was just making me think they did...
anyways...

Rat_Boy

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2004, 03:51:05 pm »
Quote:

or that guys voice (sounded like damar from ds9) was just making me think they did...
anyways...  




It was in fact Casey "Damar" Biggs as the unfortunate victim, which made me all the more angry at Archer.


"Oh no, you are not about to do that to Damar!"

Clark Kent

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2004, 04:35:34 pm »
Quote:

It was in fact Casey "Damar" Biggs as the unfortunate victim, which made me all the more angry at Archer.


"Oh no, you are not about to do that to Damar!"  




Remind me who damar is, please??

CK

P.S.  I like Latinas...
....And apparently Asian Ladies as well...

mc_cloud

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2004, 05:21:40 pm »
if its the damar im thinking about... he was a character on deep space nine.... he was gul dukat's 2nd in command for a long time basically...and then eventually led the cardasian resistance agaisnt the dominion....  when I say I think it was damar.... I mean the actor who played the character

Uss_Defiant

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2004, 05:36:47 pm »
Quote:

if its the damar im thinking about... he was a character on deep space nine.... he was gul dukat's 2nd in command for a long time basically...and then eventually led the cardasian resistance agaisnt the dominion....  when I say I think it was damar.... I mean the actor who played the character  




Yeah, your right. He was such a cool character... I think they made a mockery of him by putting him in as a cheasy irrelivant character which only has a token few lines.  

Alidar Jarok

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Enterpise
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2004, 08:12:16 pm »
Anyone besides me see the episode tonight.  I thought it was pretty cool.

And I'm not easily impressed - Wow, a blue car!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Alidar Jarok »

TheJudge

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2004, 09:25:47 pm »
I'm about halfway through it and wondering what the hell is up with T'Pol

Kortez

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2004, 11:02:18 pm »
I thought it was a tremendous disappointment and let down, especially after a cool last episode.  They are back on terrible episodes again.

I guess this show is not going to be back.
 

Rat_Boy

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2004, 11:16:24 pm »
Boy, is this going to be controversial.  Archer makes Sisko from "In the Pale Moonlight" look like a jaywalker by comparison.

TheJudge

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2004, 12:09:35 am »
I liked this episode after watching it twice through.  T'Pol's behavior throughout the last few episodes was finally explained and is a nice rehash of the drug addiction...except in a vulcan.  Then there was the whole Archer going pirate in order to save Earth.

It fits into the current geo-political situation in regards to the War on Terrorism.  Is Archer's act of piracy, the attack and theft of a warp coil from an alien species truly justified?  It makes for a lot of uncomfortable issues and is reminiscent of the Picard debate in First Contact with the Alfre Woodward character.

 

Kortez

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2004, 08:21:40 am »
T'Pol seeking emotions is almost impossible to believe, even in light of her experience with the Vulcans who forced emotions upon her.  I suppose one might say that lead to her action, but I just see it as further BAD writing.

The  only surprise, for me, was seeing the alien who's manipulating things and that she-he-or-whatever is not a known race.  THAT surprised me.  I was wrong thinking it was, well, never mind ... but being wrong is a good thing.  Like the God Emperor of Dune, I want to be surprised in these shows.


 

Sten

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2004, 08:45:15 am »
Mebbe the whole seeking emotions thing is a by product of being exposed to the trellium in the exspanse.

Kind of like smoking, or heroin once you get a taste its hard to stop. You start making stupid decisions that would not normally make. So she starts exploring emotions further.

She was already exposed to empoints in a past season when that group of Vulcan emotion cultist were allowed on the Enterprise. So she has already opened Pandora's box.

The Trellium exsposure has simply kicked open the door.

Besides I liked it when she turned into a vulcan Zombie in the shower with Tripp!

Alidar Jarok

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2004, 08:54:04 am »
Quote:

I thought it was a tremendous disappointment and let down, especially after a cool last episode.  They are back on terrible episodes again.

I guess this show is not going to be back.
 




I don't think the episode is bad, but, if you don't look at it the right way, it would seem worse.  Don't look at it as the conclusion to Azati Prime, rather as the continuation of the conclusion's mini-arc.

Gambler

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #22 on: April 22, 2004, 09:38:01 am »
Decent episode but I cannot condone the actions taken by Archer to steal the warp coil from the other ship, causing damage to it in the process.  Sure you left them *some* food.  Sure you left them *some* trellium to shield themselves.  But they have also been left helpless in the expanse.  Open to attack by anyone.  Not the best way to win friends and influence people.

mc_cloud

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2004, 10:36:38 am »
those aliens almost looked like caradasians.....

or that guys voice (sounded like damar from ds9) was just making me think they did...
anyways...

Rat_Boy

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2004, 03:51:05 pm »
Quote:

or that guys voice (sounded like damar from ds9) was just making me think they did...
anyways...  




It was in fact Casey "Damar" Biggs as the unfortunate victim, which made me all the more angry at Archer.


"Oh no, you are not about to do that to Damar!"

Clark Kent

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #25 on: April 22, 2004, 04:35:34 pm »
Quote:

It was in fact Casey "Damar" Biggs as the unfortunate victim, which made me all the more angry at Archer.


"Oh no, you are not about to do that to Damar!"  




Remind me who damar is, please??

CK

P.S.  I like Latinas...
....And apparently Asian Ladies as well...

mc_cloud

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #26 on: April 22, 2004, 05:21:40 pm »
if its the damar im thinking about... he was a character on deep space nine.... he was gul dukat's 2nd in command for a long time basically...and then eventually led the cardasian resistance agaisnt the dominion....  when I say I think it was damar.... I mean the actor who played the character

Uss_Defiant

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #27 on: April 22, 2004, 05:36:47 pm »
Quote:

if its the damar im thinking about... he was a character on deep space nine.... he was gul dukat's 2nd in command for a long time basically...and then eventually led the cardasian resistance agaisnt the dominion....  when I say I think it was damar.... I mean the actor who played the character  




Yeah, your right. He was such a cool character... I think they made a mockery of him by putting him in as a cheasy irrelivant character which only has a token few lines.  

Alidar Jarok

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Enterpise
« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2004, 08:12:16 pm »
Anyone besides me see the episode tonight.  I thought it was pretty cool.

And I'm not easily impressed - Wow, a blue car!
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Alidar Jarok »

TheJudge

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2004, 09:25:47 pm »
I'm about halfway through it and wondering what the hell is up with T'Pol

Kortez

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #30 on: April 21, 2004, 11:02:18 pm »
I thought it was a tremendous disappointment and let down, especially after a cool last episode.  They are back on terrible episodes again.

I guess this show is not going to be back.
 

Rat_Boy

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #31 on: April 21, 2004, 11:16:24 pm »
Boy, is this going to be controversial.  Archer makes Sisko from "In the Pale Moonlight" look like a jaywalker by comparison.

TheJudge

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2004, 12:09:35 am »
I liked this episode after watching it twice through.  T'Pol's behavior throughout the last few episodes was finally explained and is a nice rehash of the drug addiction...except in a vulcan.  Then there was the whole Archer going pirate in order to save Earth.

It fits into the current geo-political situation in regards to the War on Terrorism.  Is Archer's act of piracy, the attack and theft of a warp coil from an alien species truly justified?  It makes for a lot of uncomfortable issues and is reminiscent of the Picard debate in First Contact with the Alfre Woodward character.

 

Kortez

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2004, 08:21:40 am »
T'Pol seeking emotions is almost impossible to believe, even in light of her experience with the Vulcans who forced emotions upon her.  I suppose one might say that lead to her action, but I just see it as further BAD writing.

The  only surprise, for me, was seeing the alien who's manipulating things and that she-he-or-whatever is not a known race.  THAT surprised me.  I was wrong thinking it was, well, never mind ... but being wrong is a good thing.  Like the God Emperor of Dune, I want to be surprised in these shows.


 

Sten

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #34 on: April 22, 2004, 08:45:15 am »
Mebbe the whole seeking emotions thing is a by product of being exposed to the trellium in the exspanse.

Kind of like smoking, or heroin once you get a taste its hard to stop. You start making stupid decisions that would not normally make. So she starts exploring emotions further.

She was already exposed to empoints in a past season when that group of Vulcan emotion cultist were allowed on the Enterprise. So she has already opened Pandora's box.

The Trellium exsposure has simply kicked open the door.

Besides I liked it when she turned into a vulcan Zombie in the shower with Tripp!

Alidar Jarok

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #35 on: April 22, 2004, 08:54:04 am »
Quote:

I thought it was a tremendous disappointment and let down, especially after a cool last episode.  They are back on terrible episodes again.

I guess this show is not going to be back.
 




I don't think the episode is bad, but, if you don't look at it the right way, it would seem worse.  Don't look at it as the conclusion to Azati Prime, rather as the continuation of the conclusion's mini-arc.

Gambler

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2004, 09:38:01 am »
Decent episode but I cannot condone the actions taken by Archer to steal the warp coil from the other ship, causing damage to it in the process.  Sure you left them *some* food.  Sure you left them *some* trellium to shield themselves.  But they have also been left helpless in the expanse.  Open to attack by anyone.  Not the best way to win friends and influence people.

mc_cloud

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #37 on: April 22, 2004, 10:36:38 am »
those aliens almost looked like caradasians.....

or that guys voice (sounded like damar from ds9) was just making me think they did...
anyways...

Rat_Boy

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #38 on: April 22, 2004, 03:51:05 pm »
Quote:

or that guys voice (sounded like damar from ds9) was just making me think they did...
anyways...  




It was in fact Casey "Damar" Biggs as the unfortunate victim, which made me all the more angry at Archer.


"Oh no, you are not about to do that to Damar!"

Clark Kent

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #39 on: April 22, 2004, 04:35:34 pm »
Quote:

It was in fact Casey "Damar" Biggs as the unfortunate victim, which made me all the more angry at Archer.


"Oh no, you are not about to do that to Damar!"  




Remind me who damar is, please??

CK

P.S.  I like Latinas...
....And apparently Asian Ladies as well...

mc_cloud

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #40 on: April 22, 2004, 05:21:40 pm »
if its the damar im thinking about... he was a character on deep space nine.... he was gul dukat's 2nd in command for a long time basically...and then eventually led the cardasian resistance agaisnt the dominion....  when I say I think it was damar.... I mean the actor who played the character

Uss_Defiant

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Re: Enterpise
« Reply #41 on: April 22, 2004, 05:36:47 pm »
Quote:

if its the damar im thinking about... he was a character on deep space nine.... he was gul dukat's 2nd in command for a long time basically...and then eventually led the cardasian resistance agaisnt the dominion....  when I say I think it was damar.... I mean the actor who played the character  




Yeah, your right. He was such a cool character... I think they made a mockery of him by putting him in as a cheasy irrelivant character which only has a token few lines.