Topic: Release: TMP Chicago Refits - 4 Versions (Read 7196 times)

Wolfsglen · « **on:** April 15, 2004, 01:33:30 pm »

Credits: P-81 for certain parts and textures, and special thanks to Atrahasis for letting me use his lovely Chicago as a basis for these. Additional known credits are in the zip files, PLEASE let me know if i missed anyone out. Hosted courtesy of Starfleet Universe:

ADDITIONAL: Probable fix for missing saucer textures on both variants HERE

First 2 Variants: HERE

Second 2 Variants: HERE

And also thanks to Mariner for giving me some great ideas to use...including some that will be kept for a future date when my Max skills improve

The 4 variants are:

1: Standard Chicago in a TMP-style Refit
2: TMP-Style Refit with underside engine replaced by a weapons/sensor pod
3: Standard Chicago in TMP-Style Refit with Torp Launchers moved under the nose
4: Tmp Style Refit with under nose Torp Launchers and full sized underside engine to match the top 2.

Have fun, should be plenty enough variants to suit everyone

I'll be taking a break for a few days now, but dont be afraid to let me know what ya think.

PS: Shuddup about the Reliant registry

If anyone wants to release a texture set with different registries i would be very happy.

Kaenyne · « **Reply #1 on:** April 15, 2004, 01:35:28 pm »

Great stuff, Wolfsglen! These variants will certainly keep me busy. Looking forward to your Bonaventure II.

DonKarnage · « **Reply #2 on:** April 15, 2004, 02:42:29 pm »

Great jobs, this will help with my mod, dont stop there show us what's next

can you make a tmp of a old cl, the kentucky class ncc 522?, i got the mod if u want to see it.

anyway good job in making a tmp of that tos ship

Rogue · « **Reply #3 on:** April 15, 2004, 04:18:52 pm »

Just wanted to offer a thanks. I've been keeping tabs on this model and am glad to be able to add it to the ever expanding vessal library. Good looking starship.

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #4 on:** April 15, 2004, 05:03:32 pm »

Great ships sir ,but when I d/l the first 2 and looked at it in my mod viewer,the top saucer texture is missing.It's all white.So I d/l'ed it again and same results.

-MP

Wolfsglen · « **Reply #5 on:** April 15, 2004, 05:08:34 pm »

Hmm weird, it was fine when i uploaded it, will check now and post a fix if need be.

EDIT: Ok i just downloaded it and it displays fine in-game and in model viewer

Can anyone else have a try and let us know if you have the same problem?

EDIT2: Ok i just realised that one of the top textures is 507x512 for some stupid reason, and although it displays fine in-game and in modviewer for me, it could well be the cause of it for you, so as a temp fix, try changing the TOP2.BMP to 512x512 and seeing if that cures it.

EDIT3: And thank you for the kind words guys, is always appreciated.

DonKarnage · « **Reply #6 on:** April 15, 2004, 10:09:08 pm »

the 4 mods have the same problem, the map on the top of the saucer is missing, but in mod c and d for the break model there a little piece of the map showing, anyway good model

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #7 on:** April 16, 2004, 01:38:51 am »

I only DL'd the 2nd set with the forward torp tubes, but all of the textures appear to be there (I did resize the one texture that wasn't square). I also removed the bottom warp engine and pylon to get a free F-NCL model out of the deal.

Dizzy · « **Reply #8 on:** April 16, 2004, 02:00:17 am »

I wonder if FS will rework his 3.2 list update (if there is one) so as to include using this model in place of the miranda folder that is over representative of too many ships in the fed list.

Would be nice to see more ship options than the folders we are limited to for the fed cl types in opplus.

Wolfsglen · « **Reply #9 on:** April 16, 2004, 04:49:59 am »

Well this is a weird one

Anyone got any ideas why the textures dont show for some? They are perfect for me, and i even got my Missus to download it, and it displays fine in ModViewer for her too on a completely different puter...

Dont suppose you guys use a particular kind of graphics card? Everyone i know with an nvidia based one has no probs at all, and i cant see why its messing up for some people.

DonKarnage · « **Reply #10 on:** April 16, 2004, 06:40:38 am »

its a mistery question

, my video card is part of the mother board.

starforce2 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 16, 2004, 07:50:28 am »

Rod, u releasing the 2 nacelled version?

ModelsPlease · « **Reply #12 on:** April 16, 2004, 07:51:35 am »

I don't know how to change the texture size.Could you just post the resized Top2.BMP or send it to me please.Thanks again for the great ships !

-MP

ModelsPlease@aol.com

starforce2 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 16, 2004, 08:01:24 am »

Quote:

I don't know how to change the texture size.Could you just post the resized Top2.BMP or send it to me please.Thanks again for the great ships !

-MP

ModelsPlease@aol.com

Most photo editing programs can do it, even paint. Try searching through the menu's for a resize option. Change the dimentions to 512/512 or something and your set.

Wolfsglen · « **Reply #15 on:** April 16, 2004, 08:14:42 am »

So ya guys reckon its due to that oddly shaped texture that it didnt show up? If so, i will post the properly-sized texture up at SFU as a fix for others.

Let me know, and thank you guys

Hehe and well done MP, its always worth having a tweak and try, its how i learnt to 'bash in Max

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #16 on:** April 16, 2004, 08:19:53 am »

I'm using an ATI card and I'm not having any troubles. I'm confused as well? I hope that someone can figure it out.

SF2, I wasn't planning on releasing it. If you (or anyone else) want it, let me know.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #19 on:** April 16, 2004, 10:47:25 am »

Models Please,
I sent you an PM with a link to the model.

DarkMatrix · « **Reply #20 on:** April 16, 2004, 11:18:22 am »

nice job man

DarkMatrix · « **Reply #21 on:** April 16, 2004, 11:41:08 am »

sorry could not help myself just had to do other refit of this fine ship what u think? Chicago-E

DM

DH123 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 16, 2004, 02:16:12 pm »

yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!

The NCL version looks awesome to, I may stop using the Miranda.

E_Look · « **Reply #26 on:** April 16, 2004, 03:55:38 pm »

Well, DD, I like having a big missile launcher on its back. Is this going to be downloadable sometime?

FireSoul · « **Reply #28 on:** April 16, 2004, 05:44:46 pm »

3470 polys.. That's too rich for my blood. I'll have to see if I can lower that without any ill effects. LODs are also needed..

.. jeez man.. and the textures.. you can reduce the space taken by the BMPs by reducing their BPP from 24 to 8. It won't affect the model.

Otherwise, this thing is a great looking ship.

Rod O'neal · « **Reply #29 on:** April 16, 2004, 05:47:00 pm »

The torp launcher on the top is cool. It's better to be able to see the photons flash from the launchers, like you can when it's on top. Good idea, man.

Mariner · « **Reply #31 on:** April 16, 2004, 06:00:12 pm »

FireSoul, while your modding the Chicago, can you try and attempt the following?

* - Lower Sensor dome does not match the curvature of the saucer and the forward light fixture is digging into the mesh.

* Adjustment of lighting testures to fit new hull geometry. I'd be happy if we could actually see the light for the top half of the saucer.

* - Make the ALL nacelles glow on both sides and add the 1651 registry to them.

* - Removal OR alteration of saucer line markings. I think that my paint bashing skills and word editing skills aren't to to fixing either.

* - Adujustment of the saucer textures so that they do not "warp" slightly on the underside.

I hope that isn't too much.

BTW, where can I get some swell blank 1024 P81 Ent textures? Destiny used some on his DeForrest Kelly, and I'd I think I can make the registriy in Word if the saucer were bigger (so that the red lines show up at the proper size relative to the lettering.)

wanderer · « **Reply #32 on:** April 16, 2004, 06:04:53 pm »

My $.02 worth...

For the first two varients...

...the 1st would be the basic NCA...

Later refit to NHV

The 2nd version would make a fine NCD if the torp pod were changed to drones (the 4 B-racks; and could the rear of the pod be closed up?), and the top side torps (which this version dosn't have) be changed to drones as well (the 2 G-racks)...

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Of the 2nd two varients...

...if the 1st were given an extra phaser to the p/s mounts, it would make a nice NCC (the torps being moved to the front of the saucer to make room for the flag bridge accomodations).

As for the 4th varient with the full-sized 3rd nacelle, being the stickler that I am, I prefer the smaller nacelle. Although, this could be used as the basis for an NCF, which had 3 full-sizes nacelles.

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For a normal NCL, I would simply remove the 3rd nacelle from the first version (with the torps on top).

I would take Rod's version...

...add an extra phaser to the p/s mounts, and you have an instant CLC.

For DarkMatrix's version...

...if the 3rd nacelle was re-added, and the changes discussed above for the NCD were done, it would make a great NDC.

Lotsa possibilities here for all of the NCL/NCA varients from SFB.

Wolfsglen · « **Reply #33 on:** April 16, 2004, 06:18:54 pm »

"* Adjustment of lighting testures to fit new hull geometry. I'd be happy if we could actually see the light for the top half of the saucer."

Its all lit for me...lights and windows all glow in-game, plus registry number is highlighted, what more lighting is needed there? You could have emailed me a few days ago when i gave you the link to preview and SAID something before it got released?

Unless you are just planning to sit there looking at it zoomed-in via ModViewer, half that stuff doesnt show up in-game anyway - its not a JOAT submission rofl

Sheesh just build a new one fer chrissakes!

Mariner · « **Reply #35 on:** April 16, 2004, 07:04:17 pm »

Ah, alright. Never mind then, because I've already fixed the saucer lights and registries with word and paint.

I'll put up screenies ASAP.

Mariner · « **Reply #36 on:** April 16, 2004, 07:08:27 pm »

Umm, too bad Nightsoft is down, because I already knew where to get them. I was curious if there are any alternatives.

DonKarnage · « **Reply #37 on:** April 16, 2004, 07:37:14 pm »

Wolfsglen i got 3 mod that need to be fix, 3 need skin and 1 need to place corectly the warp engine, 2 tmp 1 late tos.

starforce2 · « **Reply #40 on:** April 16, 2004, 08:33:02 pm »

looks like we got ourselfs anbother remora...lol..6 variants of the same ship haha.

Now where's the dl for the cl and the darkdrone version?

Mariner · « **Reply #41 on:** April 16, 2004, 09:28:33 pm »

Alright, let's make that 7 then....Presenting the Chicago Refit, Mariner style!

Anyone wanna help with texturing the nacelles? I'd like them to be lit from both sides, but the third nacelle has an older texture than the other two.

FireSoul · « **Reply #44 on:** April 17, 2004, 03:27:20 am »

I need help with some lettering texture work.. for the following files:

bot.bmp
top2.bmp
fcaC.bmp
ncasec.bmp

I need the following registries:
NCC-1503 U.S.S Repulse
NCC-1515 U.S.S Azoz
NCC-1651 U.S.S Chicago
NCC-1677 U.S.S Manta Ray
NCC-1689? U.S.S Crecy

These are for model variants.. and I kinda suck at putting in lettering on the saucers.

FireSoul · « **Reply #47 on:** April 17, 2004, 02:13:10 pm »

I have some WIP pictures.. One of them will show my first attempt at Federation texture Lettering.
Edit: The FNCA is shown for comparison.

Age · « **Reply #48 on:** April 17, 2004, 02:27:46 pm »

FireSoul I would like to see The Chicago in 3.3 with only 2 warp nacalles aswell as in a Frig.configreration.

Chrystoff · « **Reply #50 on:** April 17, 2004, 04:55:57 pm »

That looks great, Firesoul. I really like what you have done here.

The_Infiltrator · « **Reply #51 on:** April 17, 2004, 06:23:29 pm »

Very nice. Wish there was as many Hydran models to fill all the classes like fed ones.

FireSoul · « **Reply #53 on:** April 17, 2004, 09:22:10 pm »

I can't recieve files via MSN due to my own firewall... so we'll have to use something else.

-- Luc

Dizzy · « **Reply #56 on:** April 18, 2004, 02:59:04 am »

LOL!

SSCF_LeRoy · « **Reply #57 on:** April 18, 2004, 08:11:15 am »

What is that Chicago in the middle s'posed to be anyways?

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #58 on:** April 18, 2004, 09:04:18 am »

Thats supposed to be a New Fast Cruiser NCF. The fast cruisers and Fast Dreadought have a spade shaped primary hull.
check out this link for MIke Rapier's Kitbash of a heavy cruiser to a fast cruiser.
Federation Fast Cruiser
and here's an NCF Mike's style
Fed NCF

Enjoy

Dizzy · « **Reply #59 on:** April 18, 2004, 09:15:35 am »

U c, the angled style saucer makes it more aerodynamic... Thats why it goes faster...

Rogue · « **Reply #61 on:** April 18, 2004, 10:55:11 am »

Silly rabbits... 'Tis for enhancing the warp field. I thought everyone knew that.

Mariner · « **Reply #62 on:** April 18, 2004, 11:10:37 am »

More texture tweaks. All nacelles have name/registry, glows on both sides, and slightly altered lighting. In addition, the grilles now have a bona fide "blue" glow, thanks to Rogue's Oriskany, from which I copy/pasted the glow.

But, I would like it if someone could PLEASE fix the lower sensor dome light mesh and give all nacelles "fins" on both sides, aswell as assigning the port nacelle the fcaC texture. All I'd need is the model, the thextures are already here. If anyone can do this, I would be very thankful.

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #63 on:** April 18, 2004, 01:46:00 pm »

Well it has to do with warp dynamics, and that the engines are hot warped. Instead of producing 15 units of power
on the ssd they run at 18 units of power for the heavy cruisers . the NCF uses 3 x 12 unit engines these engines are typically used on NCLs.
They also save power by using a single photon torpedo bank as opposed to 2 banks that fire 2 torps.

starforce2 · « **Reply #66 on:** April 19, 2004, 06:20:42 am »

exactly how many variants do we have now? lol

FireSoul · « **Reply #69 on:** April 19, 2004, 02:33:01 pm »

My magic 8-ball says:
"duh."

-- Luc

starforce2 · « **Reply #70 on:** April 19, 2004, 11:43:18 pm »

it's either that or the fact he has an andorian smokeing what looks like a crack pipe as an avatar

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