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Stormbringer

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Re: 2nd Powered Flight for Spaceship One - Mach 2 and 105,000 feet.
« Reply #20 on: April 14, 2004, 10:03:18 pm »
Double posting, Eh! Good news

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: 2nd Powered Flight for Spaceship One - Mach 2 and 105,000 feet.
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2004, 12:09:10 am »
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Double posting, Eh! Good news  




Actually the first one  was an unconfirmed report.  The second is confirmed by Scaled Composites.  So it is not a double posting.  Though easily mistaken for one.  

I was a little concerned that the original report might be false considering the time it took for official confirmation.  Nice to see that the landing was uneventful, unlike last time.

 

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Nemesis, Storm check this story out guys.
« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2004, 05:08:12 pm »
 http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994870

Commercial space flight takes big step up
 
 
17:19 08 April 04
 
NewScientist.com news service
 
The dream of commercial space flight has taken an important step towards reality with the granting of the first licence to a private company to launch people to a height of 100 kilometres.

The US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) awarded the license to Scaled Composites, a California-based company run by aviation pioneer Burt Rutan, for a one-year period.

The company is vying for the $10 million X Prize, to be awarded to the first private group to send three people to the sub-orbital height of 100 kilometres twice in two weeks.

Its contender is a rocket-plane called SpaceShipOne that will be launched from mid-air from a jet called White Knight. It is widely regarded as the front-runner for the prize.

Scaled Composites has so far declined to comment on the awarding of the license, but a statement by Rutan on the company web site reads: "We look to the future, hopefully within 10 years, when ordinary people, for the cost of a luxury cruise, can experience a rocket flight into the black sky above the Earth's atmosphere."


Reusable vehicles


Although the FAA has licensed more than 150 unmanned commercial rockets over 20 years, it has recently been studying the licensing requirements for manned launch vehicles, including reusable ones, such as SpaceShipOne.

"We realised [reusable vehicles] would be the future for space transportation," FAA spokesman Hank Price told New Scientist, especially "with the public interest in space tourism".

Price said public safety is the highest priority in assessing any application for a licence. Technical data such as vehicle specifications and flight paths must be submitted to the agency, and FAA inspectors may check the vehicles on-site as well.

In addition, companies must prove they are insured to cover the costs of any potential damage - such as to ground property - in case of failure. Any impacts to the environment, such as whether fuel is being vented into space, are also scrutinised. The FAA then has 180 days to approve or deny the application.


Rocket burn


Two other companies, one of which is also a contender for the X Prize, have applied for the licenses, Price said.

 
SpaceShipOne became the first of 27 X Prize contestants to perform a manned test flight in December 2003, when it burned its rocket for 15 seconds, reaching an altitude of nearly 21 km. It flew its twelfth test flight on 11 March with a newly installed thermal protection system.

Price says Scaled Composites applied for the license in order to burn its rocket for longer periods, which will be necessary to reach the 100 km target.

In testimony to the US Presidential Commission for the Moon, Mars and Beyond in March, X Prize Foundation president Peter Diamandis said he expects a winner by October 2004.

He also argued for the acceptance of some risk in the endeavour to conquer public spaceflight. "Without risk and without room for failure we cannot have the very breakthroughs we so desperately need."
 
 
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stephen

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Re: Nemesis, Storm check this story out guys.
« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2004, 09:19:43 pm »
Yeah, I think Nem had this in one of his posts earlier but it is good to get it as much attention as possible. People are too apathetic about space as it is. More interest would equal more government emphasis. Every little bit helps.

Sirgod

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Re: Nemesis, Storm check this story out guys.
« Reply #24 on: April 08, 2004, 10:29:21 pm »
It's very Possible he did. I try to keep up with It all, But I might have missed that post.

Still Pretty cool stuff.

Stephen

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Re: Nemesis, Storm check this story out guys.
« Reply #25 on: April 08, 2004, 11:12:28 pm »
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It's very Possible he did. I try to keep up with It all, But I might have missed that post.

Still Pretty cool stuff.

Stephen  




I did, here is the link to my posting.     Sometimes things need to be reposted to get the attention they deserve.    

Sirgod

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Re: Nemesis, Storm check this story out guys.
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2004, 11:19:07 pm »
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It's very Possible he did. I try to keep up with It all, But I might have missed that post.

Still Pretty cool stuff.

Stephen  




I did, here is the link to my posting.     Sometimes things need to be reposted to get the attention they deserve.    




I'm sorry about that Nem. But It is kinda cool all the same. but I would never try to double post you my friend. We need an X-Prize post that we can make a stickie in order To follow It.

Would you be so kind as to Make apost informing everyone what's going on Nem? I'll sticky It afterwords.

stephen

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Re: Nemesis, Storm check this story out guys.
« Reply #27 on: April 08, 2004, 11:22:07 pm »
SG I was just trying to credit Nem. Iwas not criticising you for posting about it. Like he and I said earlier the more space is on people's minds, the more it will be on the govt's mind.

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: Nemesis, Storm check this story out guys.
« Reply #28 on: April 08, 2004, 11:48:16 pm »
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It's very Possible he did. I try to keep up with It all, But I might have missed that post.

Still Pretty cool stuff.

Stephen  




I did, here is the link to my posting.     Sometimes things need to be reposted to get the attention they deserve.    




I'm sorry about that Nem. But It is kinda cool all the same. but I would never try to double post you my friend. We need an X-Prize post that we can make a stickie in order To follow It.

Would you be so kind as to Make apost informing everyone what's going on Nem? I'll sticky It afterwords.

stephen  




The double didn't bother me at all (notice the Smiley in my last post).  Sometimes it is needed to get a title that attracts attention.

I don't consider myself any type of expert on the X-Prize, its just that sites that I go to keep posting things about it .  Perhaps Storm or I can find a FAQ from the X-Prize site that can be posted or linked to.  I will try to look it up this weekend if Storm doesn't beat me to it.  

The only teams I know anything about are Spaceship One (Scaled Composites, Rutan and Paul Allen), Armadillo (Carmack programmer of DOOM? I think), The Canadian Arrow (based on the V2 with some updating, funding was marginal at best last I heard) and da Vinci (Canadian using a BIG balloon to lift the rocket).    

IKV Nemesis D7L

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2nd Powered Flight for Spaceship One - Mach 2 and 105,000 feet.
« Reply #29 on: April 09, 2004, 12:06:46 am »
Link to story.

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BREAKING NEWS! Private Spaceship Completes Second Rocket-Powered Test Flight
By Leonard David
Senior Space Writer
posted: 02:25 pm ET
08 April 2004

UPDATE: Story first posted 1:40 p.m., April 8, 2004

The privately-backed SpaceShipOne suborbital rocket plane made its second powered flight today.

Built by Scaled Composites of Mojave, California, the piloted vehicle was powered by a hybrid rocket motor to over 105,000 feet. The engine burned for 40 seconds, zipping to Mach 2, or two times the speed of sound, according to a source that witnessed the test flight high above Mojave, California skies.



   

IKV Nemesis D7L

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CONFIRMED: 2nd Powered Flight for Spaceship One - Mach 2 and 105,000 feet.
« Reply #30 on: April 14, 2004, 07:46:13 pm »
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Safe, stable entry

As the rocket plane sped upward, no control flutter or other flight control issues were observed. After burnout of the engine took place, the SpaceShipOne?s apogee ? or high point -- was over 105,000 feet.

SpaceShipOne then converted to a high-drag configuration, accomplished by flipping up the rudder/tail end of the craft. This feature, called "feathering", is designed to put the vehicle into a safe, stable atmospheric entry.

Feather recovery was nominal, with the wing then de-feathered and locked into place by 40,000 feet, Scaled Composites reported. SpaceShipOne handled well during its glide to the ground, and then safely touched down on a Mojave landing strip.


   

Stormbringer

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Re: 2nd Powered Flight for Spaceship One - Mach 2 and 105,000 feet.
« Reply #31 on: April 14, 2004, 10:03:18 pm »
Double posting, Eh! Good news

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: 2nd Powered Flight for Spaceship One - Mach 2 and 105,000 feet.
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2004, 12:09:10 am »
Quote:

Double posting, Eh! Good news  




Actually the first one  was an unconfirmed report.  The second is confirmed by Scaled Composites.  So it is not a double posting.  Though easily mistaken for one.  

I was a little concerned that the original report might be false considering the time it took for official confirmation.  Nice to see that the landing was uneventful, unlike last time.