Topic: Save Enterprise.com

[FFZ]

   Some of the folks here wanted to help save the show, so here is how.

Go to this site:
http://www.saveenterprise.com/

And start writing some letters.
 

[Pestalence]

let the show burn and fade in memory of the true fans who cared about the original series, the TMP movies and TNG and it's movies...

Enterprise has done so much to drive Trek fans away that Paramount / viacom should disown the entire series and claim that their money was misappropriated and the episodes went against their ideal of what actual Trek should be...

I support a Bring back kirk and I support another series based off TNG or even another ship in the TOS timeline.. but Enterprise should be squashed like garbage that it already is...

I mean how can anyone claim to be a Trek fan and watch Enterprise with it's blatant disreguard for the set canon precident of the other series.. how can they get away with tech more advanced than the other series have already set as historical canon... it just saddens me so to see what B&B has done with Enterprise after growing up with TOS and watching all the other series as they came out..

Enterprise is the red headed bastard step child of Trek that could only be explained as it being the Mirror universe..... let it die now and fade away.
 

[TOCXOBearslayer]

 

Tell us how you really feel!!!

Anyways, if I decide to write, it will be to Braga.  Demanding that he write an apology letter to all of Trekdom for the abuses he has made on the series.

IMO, he must fire Berman & then quit working on ANYTHING related to Star Trek.

Only then, will I think about forgiving him.

Some how, I doubt it will be a well received letter.

[FPF_TraceyG]

Can Gene Roddenberry be resurrected from the dead?

[InragedSith]

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Can Gene Roddenberry be resurrected from the dead?  

When he died he was cremated and his ashes were launched into space

And his ashes were vaporized rentering the atmosphere

So there will be no zombie Roddenberry, sorry

[InragedSith]

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Anyways, if I decide to write, it will be to Braga.  Demanding that he write an apology letter to all of Trekdom for the abuses he has made on the series.

That's not enough

He must be put on trail for crimes against Star Trek

His sentence will be the harshest possible, no death sentences because there are things far worse then death

Since there is no Rura Penthea Braga must spend the rest of his life in Siberia

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IMO, he must fire Berman & then quit working on ANYTHING related to Star Trek.

Berman hired Braga so Braga can't fire him  

[SSCF_LeRoy]

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how can they get away with tech more advanced than the other series have already set as historical canon...

I agree that the plots for alot of the episodes have been travesties (Vulcan neuropressure anyone? ), but what's the matter with the technology?  

[FPF_TraceyG]

I wonder if someone somewhere has compiled a list of erroneous anomalies beyween Enterprise and 'real Trek?

[Blyre]

I wish them luck. My feelings toward Enterprise are really ambivalent because I neither like nor dislike it. One thing for certain is that while the show is visually appealing, it doesn't give me that sense of excitement that TOS and TNG did. I'll reserve comment on DS9 and Voyager for now, but suffice it to say, I don't have a burning desire to go ring up Paramount and tell them how much they've screwed up by leaving Rick and Brannon behind the wheel.

Enterprise is okay, but it does reek of not having been thought through.

Wallace
 

[IKV Nemesis D7L]

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I wonder if someone somewhere has compiled a list of erroneous anomalies beyween Enterprise and 'real Trek?  

Start a thread.  I am sure that they will pop up.

Just a few off the top of my head.

Romulans with cloak (and cloaked mines).  Why was Kirk surprised?

If Hoshi has access to Vulcan language database, why was it so difficult to translate the Romulan offshoot?

Only 10% of Vulcans can mindmeld and its a perversion?

Zefram Cochrane of Alpha Centauri in TOS not of Earth.

Klingons are not supposed to be encountered for decades yet.  According to Picard a First Contact error caused the decades of war.  (Implied that Klingons were still pre warp - my interpretation)

Bonehead Klingons.    TOS Klingons had a different appearance and culture from the TNG and Enterprise.

The Romulan war is suposed to be fought with only Impulse power, nuclear weapons and lasers.  

Transporters.

Shuttle pods, more advanced than the Galileo 7.  (Smaller, sleeker and pretty much the same passenger ability)

Ferengi ships should not be seen until Picard meets them.

Borg.  Again not due until Picard.




I purposefully ignored the whole Xindi arc.

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[Age]

   I support you on this a long as it is not another TNG based show I have seen enough of the 24C. I would like to see more of the 23C. to fill in the GAPS and HOLES that were left when TOS was cancelled and into the TMP era and more on the Federation, Klingon war and just plain exploration.I have said it once and I wil say it agian they have gone to warp9 on this series and didn't take slow enough.Lets see how the sc.ew up the next season.They could do Empires at War as a series though and include the battles that takes place in the game how does that sound a game turned into a tv series it work for books why not a pc game.  

[Age]

  You forgot about the Tricorders and Communicators they are smaller than in TOS would you think would be bigger and how about those Computer Displays.They look like LCD screens to me oh well another for the nitpickers I am agreeing with you this time Nemesis.  

[EmeraldEdge]

I don't have as much of a problem with the size of some of the tech.  They could have gotten by with saying that they don't do as much, except for one thing, they do more.  They didn't get rid of most of the technobabble, they still have the capability to track little tachyon particle warp signature things and what not.  Lots of stuff they could hardly do in TOS.  Trek used to be about the triumph of humanity, about the human condition, not so much anymore.  The writing is just sloppy (and that's being kind).  There are so many flaws rediculous reasons behind action in B&B's stories it's hardly worth listing anymore.  

[FFZ]

 Some folks are forgetting something, it is either 'Enterprise or..........NOTHING.

There isn't going to be another Trek movie, and the only hope of more Trek is to support what is left.

Nobody is more critical then I am of the stupid mistakes they make, but to say 'the hell with it, either do it perfect or not at all' are forgetting that the entertainment business will select "Not at all" most of the time.

The show is all we have left, let it die, and Trek dies.    

[Pestalence]

You are forgetting History

After TOS went off the air.. and when they were building the First Space shuttle.. it was named Enterprise after hundreds of thousands of Trek fan letters flooded NASA and Congress.

after Roddenberry recieved hundreds of thousands of fan based letters, Star Trek : TMP hit the big screen, followed by TWOK, then TSFS, the TVH.. then Rodenberry got paramount to start making TNG...

however there was a big break and resting time between the series...

as such, that is what Trek needs now.. Kill Enterprise as it stands.. claim it is Mirror Universe to cover Canon errors, let it rest for a few years and get new writers and directors and producers to take over the franchise.. return it to Roddenberry's ideal...

as for Trek on TV.. i think Spike TV has that market almost cornered.. Sci-Fi plays TOS and Spike plays TNG and DS9 and will soon be getting Voyager and then TOS...

so Trek is not dying anytime soon.. it is just that the new series sucked so much that it is driving fans away.. a break now is the best thing that could happen...

now for a new series.. if they wanted to do Enterprise in the correct Trek Timeline.. they could use the current cast and use new writers, canonize the technology and add depth to the characters and interaction and feeling instead of trying to sell sex like Voyager did...

I wouldn't rule out Paramount not making a new Trek movie.. on the contrary, they have stated that something new for trek is coming.. whether it is a new series, or a new movie.. it is in the process of planning and / or pre-production stages now...
 

[Blyre]

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 Some folks are forgetting something, it is either 'Enterprise or..........NOTHING.

There isn't going to be another Trek movie, and the only hope of more Trek is to support what is left.

Nobody is more critical then I am of the stupid mistakes they make, but to say 'the hell with it, either do it perfect or not at all' are forgetting that the entertainment business will select "Not at all" most of the time.

The show is all we have left, let it die, and Trek dies.    

Not as long as Viacom can squeeze some money out of it.......

Wallace
 

[Kroma_BaSyl]

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I wonder if someone somewhere has compiled a list of erroneous anomalies beyween Enterprise and 'real Trek?  

No but they have compiled a list of erroneous anomalies between 'real Trek' and 'real Trek' (NitPickers Guide)

Which brings me to my main point it is a TV show, geared towards escapist entertainment, so come up out of your Mother's basements people and spend a little time in the sun if you aren't enjoying the new show. You really shouldn't care that much about the continuity between the old show and the new, since there was never any continuity between the old and the old, thus nothing is sacred.  

[Blyre]

It's funny how the words "based on" seems to be overlooked when watching these spinoff shows.

Wallace
 

[FFZ]

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You are forgetting History
 

No, I'm not actually.

The world has changed since the late sixties, it was 11 years between the end of ToS and STTMP. Another three years between that and Wraith of Khan, and five more years till TNG. Almost TWENTY years between regular series. We are looking at that again, maybe never seeing Trek again. These shows still cost a bit of money, unless their is a garuntee of return of investment, it would be unliely to see it come back from the dead again.

It is a better idea to keep what is on, and try to make it better, then to just hope for the best somewhere down the line, that may NEVER come.  

[ActiveX]

Roddenberry isn't there this time to revitalize Trek...