Topic: Why is this video card so cheap? (Read 7570 times)

Iceman · « **Reply #20 on:** April 04, 2004, 08:51:01 pm »

Yeah, well Relic knew it didn't work when they shipped it, so if you're running Homeworld with an ATi card it defaults to off, so you probably wouldn't have noticed.

The_Joker · « **Reply #21 on:** April 04, 2004, 10:40:52 pm »

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So what's 'good' for NVidia? I"m so confused.

"Good" or "Top of the line" for Nvidia has the Ultra tag. Such as my 5200 Ultra or better, the 5700 Ultra or their biggest and baddest, the GeForceFX 5950 Ultra.

Never EVER buy an Nvidia based card with an extendsion of XT. That is WAY underclocked and weak and probably not cooled well enough to clock it up at home. With ATI, what you want it avoid is SE and VE.

Iceman · « **Reply #22 on:** April 02, 2004, 02:59:03 pm »

As the title says, what's wrong with this video card?

http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-131-236&DEPA=0

Is it so cheap because it's only 128mb?

ActiveX · « **Reply #23 on:** April 02, 2004, 03:01:58 pm »

It's an SE, it is cheap not only in price...

It's the 'valuecard'...

E_Look · « **Reply #24 on:** April 02, 2004, 03:05:03 pm »

Ah, it's an ATI xxxx-SE model card. All of ATI's "SE" versions are "crippled" or "slowed" versions of the ones without the "SE" suffix. I think they also have a few "LE" versions with a similar design philosophy.

I'd just NOT get their "SE" or "LE" versions of their 9200, 9600, and 9800 lines. Otherwise, they are fine video cards... and more expensive than the "S/L E"s.

Iceman · « **Reply #25 on:** April 02, 2004, 03:19:52 pm »

I see. I was unaware of the new designations. I'm assuming XT is the faster models then? There's one for like $800 or so....yeah right

E_Look · « **Reply #26 on:** April 02, 2004, 04:20:03 pm »

The way I think ATI names them, it goes (L)SE, no suffix, Pro, XT in order of cost (and of course, one would have to assume, chip speed, RAM size, pixel pipes, etc.).

ActiveX · « **Reply #27 on:** April 02, 2004, 04:31:44 pm »

I would personally get a Pro over an XT, cause the difference is only maybe 1 or 2 fps...and several dollars...

E_Look · « **Reply #28 on:** April 02, 2004, 04:41:05 pm »

Yeah, I'd agree with that...

... especially since I was able to pick up many months ago, an "old" Radeon 9700 Pro for $161 USD at MicroCenter, though there was no such thing as "XT" in that series, which compares favorably (the same few fps) against the newer 9800 XT.

I don't think most of us really can make use of that small difference, anyway.

Iceman · « **Reply #29 on:** April 02, 2004, 05:09:57 pm »

the pro series can be flashed to XT, actually. Neat huh?

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #30 on:** April 03, 2004, 04:34:02 am »

I got the XT as it is better with shadows

The_Joker · « **Reply #31 on:** April 03, 2004, 09:07:02 am »

Funny thing is, Nvidia is backward from that. XT means piece O' Junk on an Nvidia.

Iceman · « **Reply #32 on:** April 03, 2004, 10:03:05 am »

So what's 'good' for NVidia? I"m so confused.

Also, BigCheese, are you a Homeworld 2 player by any chance?

ActiveX · « **Reply #34 on:** April 03, 2004, 06:26:39 pm »

Might as well get the 9800 though, the 9600 is gimped...

Elvis · « **Reply #35 on:** April 03, 2004, 07:16:28 pm »

If this discussion is an actual buying consideration, you should wait. The next chipsets should be out shortly, and then there should be a price drop on the 9800Pro and XT.

Iceman · « **Reply #37 on:** April 03, 2004, 07:48:54 pm »

Yeah, well I have all summer. I just picked up Win XP Pro, a new case and floppy for $200. Pretty slick, considering XP Pro is $200 alone at Best Buy. And yeah, I'll probably wait until the 9800XT's drop in price to pick one up.

ActiveX · « **Reply #38 on:** April 03, 2004, 08:37:51 pm »

256Mb 9800 Pro is $295
256Mb 9800 XT is $407
256Mb 9600 Pro is $139
256Mb 9600 XT is $172

Anything more than 128Mb is overkill right now...

128Mb 9600 Pro - $129
128Mb 9600 XT - $153
128Mb 9800 Pro - $210 (X Pix)
128Mb 9800 XT - N/A

Maybe it wont be long before having 128Mb or more video ram is necessary, but the day isnt here yet...

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