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any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« on: April 02, 2004, 10:24:11 am »
 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/8320929.htm

'Hellboy' Survives 6 Years of Hollywood

ANTHONY BREZNICAN

Associated Press


LOS ANGELES - This is Hellboy: a 6-foot-5 strongman with an oversized stone hand, whippy tail, shaved horns and skin the color of a red M&M. He's a demon summoned from the netherworld by Nazis in the 1940s in a failed bid to cause the end of the world - but rescued and raised by American paranormal researchers who taught him to be one of the good guys.

Sound weird? It is. Maybe too weird for Hollywood, which tried - and failed - to alternately turn it into a crimson version of "The Hulk" or a demonic version of "Lassie" while attempting to cram The Rock down director Guillermo del Toro's throat.

"An executive said to me, `What about a regular actor who gets angry and turns into Hellboy?'" said del Toro, wrinkling his face in disgust. "I go, `That's ... not ... very good.

"Then they would say, `What if you call him Hellboy and he comes from Hell and all that, but he looks like a guy?' Then they would suggest things like, `Can he have a Hellmobile?' `Can he have a dog? A pet dog that comes from hell and is red?'

"It's funny when you say it," del Toro said in his Encino, Calif., office while the film was being edited. "But it's not funny when it happens."

Hellboy has no problem surviving a battle with a gargantuan monster tentacle, but he nearly didn't make it through the pummeling of bad ideas del Toro faced as he shopped his vision of the story from studio to studio.

After a six-year effort, the movie debuts in theaters Friday.

"I always was thinking, `The movie's never going to be made. Don't get your hopes up,'" said Mike Mignola, the comic book artist who created the character in 1993.

"It got to be a very bumpy road at some points," added del Toro, the 39-year-old Mexican filmmaker whose previous credits include "Mimic," "Blade II" and the Spanish-language "The Devil's Backbone."

"It went through every permutation. I had studios where I would start a meeting, and they would say, `You're not making him red are you?' And I go, `Yeah, he's red.' `You're not doing the tail are you?' `Yes, I'm doing the tail.' `You're not doing the horns? `Yes, I'm doing the horns.'"

Here was fear underlying those questions: What good is a movie star like The Rock, Nicolas Cage or Vin Diesel if he's obscured under the heavy makeup and prosthetics necessary to recreate the comic-book version of Hellboy?

That didn't matter to del Toro. He didn't want a movie star. He wanted a particular actor who is famous for not having a famous face - Ron Perlman.

"Hellboy is the guy that walks in with his box of tools and says, `Where's the leak?' He's a working stiff. He's a plumber, the guy who says, `I'm here to fix your monster problem,'" del Toro said.

He figured, who better for the part than a working-class actor?

"What Ron has, what Ron brought to it that was so important is that Joe Average, working stiff thing," Mignola said. "He already had the attitude of the character, a guy who never really got the red-carpet treatment."

Del Toro and Perlman had worked together on del Toro's first feature, the 1993 horror thriller "Cronos," and he chose the actor to play a boorish vampire villain in 2002's "Blade II."

Perlman is the towering, long-jawed character actor who played the subterranean romantic Vincent in the TV series "Beauty and the Beast," the drooling hunchback in "The Name of the Rose" and a semi-simian caveman in "Quest for Fire."

So many of his high-profile roles required masks that mainstream fame has eluded the actor despite more than 20 years of movie and TV work.

But that lack of bankability became a liability for "Hellboy."

"And at one point he said to me, `It's OK if you do it with someone else. I understand. If you cannot get it financed with me, fine,'" del Toro recalled.

Perlman said, "I just saw his desire to have me as the character holding back the project. ... I told him, `It was enough for me to know how hard you tried. Just make the movie and I'll come on opening night and cheer for you.'"

Del Toro persevered. His certainty that Perlman was the right actor, buoyed by Mignola's support for the choice, placed him at a crossroads.

Years ago, del Toro had caved in to studio pressure to change elements of his first Hollywood film, "Mimic," and regretted that debacle ever since. He said he liked the idea of "Hellboy" too much to start it with regrets.

"I learned on `Mimic' that if I make mistakes, I want to do my own. I'd rather make my mistakes than someone else's. With `Hellboy' it was very much a case of, if I lost that battle then I might as well give up the project."

His travels brought him to Revolution Studios, which founder Joe Roth and his partners liked to describe as "filmmaker friendly," a rare studio that would take a risk on a directors with an unusual project.

"He pitched it with all this passion, and we wanted to be in business with him," said Tom Sherak, a partner in Revolution Studios. "We believed in his vision, saw what he did before, and he laid this whole thing out for us. We took it hook, line and sinker."

That meant Perlman was locked in as the star - an enormous victory for a little-known actor.

"This is such a personal vindication for me," the actor said.

Del Toro's struggle to give him the part added extra significance. "Getting into the accouterments that one has to put on to become him (a four-part latex mask, body muscle suit.) was like a ceremonial adornment, like a samurai," Perlman said.

How did del Toro ultimately get his way?

"The thing I told studios again and again, and this is something that demonstrates how Hollywood thinks, I said to them, `If I told you Hellboy was a $30 million (computer-animated) character, you guys would be happy. But if I tell you this is the right actor, you're not.' What an obscene contradiction."

After finding open minds at Revolution, it helped that his price was right: he estimated a budget at about $60 million - still a huge amount, but nothing compared to the gargantuan price tags for "Spider-Man" and "X2: X-Men United."

"The key to this project was finding Revolution - and saying we'll do it for $60 million," del Toro said. "I mean, $60 million these days is 'Mona Lisa Smile.' It buys you an intimate movie with a star."

For Revolution, it remains a gamble. The "Hellboy" title is not as famous as "Spider-Man" or "X-Men." But if it's a hit, Revolution will have picked up a long-running franchise for a relatively cheap price.

"Don't tell Guillermo this, but if the picture had cost more, we would have made it," Sherak said. "How much more? I don't know. But it was a bargain in today's world."

Now it's wait-and-see time regarding sequels.

"Is this it? I hope so," Sherak said. "But I'm going to let the movie tell us that."

Perlman approaches the question with typical "Hellboy" pragmatism: "You got to get through the first one before you start worrying about the second one."
---------------------------------------

I've always liked Perlman, so I'll try and get around to seeing this one.

Stephen

Javora

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2004, 10:49:40 am »
Sounds good, in fact it sounds a lot better than some of the other comic book based movies that has come out in the last couple of years.  The problem I face is actually being dragged from my system and its new cable modem...  
 

Sirgod

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2004, 11:11:52 am »
LOL, Yeppers, I've been waiting awhile to see this one. I'll just have to steel my way from the PC and you all for a few hours this afternoon I think. I need a Brain dead Activity anyway.  

Stephen

Edit, after all the hooplah over the Passion, and Me being an Evil conservative, I hope this Movie doesn't raise any Anti-Nazi or Anti-Satanism.  
« Last Edit: April 02, 2004, 12:07:05 pm by Sirgod »

EE

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2004, 12:08:25 pm »
I might go watch it tomorrow. I have a H2 party coming up tonight ( Halloween 2 ). Its been thrown by Placebo Productions
 

Tremok

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2004, 05:59:55 pm »
 Saw it today. Cool and sylish, but lacked filling and depth.

The trailers for Van Helsing and King Authur have me quivering in anticipation.

I, Robot also looked interesting.    
 

Sirgod

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2004, 10:40:36 pm »
I didn't get to see those trailers, But the Punisher movie looks pretty good.

BTW, I would caution taking young children to see this, One of the main Bad Guy characters has a scene where an autopsy is being placed, and the dialogue from the Proffesser mentions the Nazi's obsetion with Massochistic, self Surgery. the Visuals of the bad guys Eye lids and Lips having been removed is not approriate in any way.

If your a Cthulu fan, and If you are willing to suspend any Beliefe for a few hours, It's well worth the time. Not much of a plot beyond Let's kill the Badguys and save the world, and Perlmans Glibness Seems to me , that he had fun making this movie. Hellboy apparently is a good Pitcher from Rooftops.

Stephen

pixel8er

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2004, 11:46:48 pm »
did someone say cthulu?
 

Kmelew

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2004, 11:47:52 pm »
Hey Stephen if you go and see the movie I dare you to show up at the theater with  this !  

Stormbringer

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2004, 11:53:24 pm »
cthulu? You just didit. (Gasp!) now I've said it!

"Cthulu! Cthulu! Cthulu!"

Aaaaarrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 

Sirgod

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2004, 09:49:42 am »
Quote:

Hey Stephen if you go and see the movie I dare you to show up at the theater with  this !  




Man If I only Knew about that, I would have put on my old Motorcycle leathers, Painted my helmet black, and went there in an instant. The only Problem would be Is that I don't exactly fit into my old 1080's era leathers, and would Probably Have People falling over in Laughter rather then Fear.  

but yes, the Hellhounds (sernaimien something or others), and even the Elder gods remin reminded me of something straight out of Lovecrafts mind. It's still hard for me to imagine how they did all those effects for only 60 mil.

Stephen

Yabrodan

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2004, 10:18:07 am »
I saw it at a preshowing on thursday, comic book shop won it in a contest and invited customers so it was a real freak show at the theater, I think it's pretty good but seemed like the begining of the movie was kind of rushed.  Was happy to see that hellboys dry humor was transferred into the movie and managed to work despite being kind of cliche.  

Sirgod

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any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2004, 10:24:11 am »
 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/8320929.htm

'Hellboy' Survives 6 Years of Hollywood

ANTHONY BREZNICAN

Associated Press


LOS ANGELES - This is Hellboy: a 6-foot-5 strongman with an oversized stone hand, whippy tail, shaved horns and skin the color of a red M&M. He's a demon summoned from the netherworld by Nazis in the 1940s in a failed bid to cause the end of the world - but rescued and raised by American paranormal researchers who taught him to be one of the good guys.

Sound weird? It is. Maybe too weird for Hollywood, which tried - and failed - to alternately turn it into a crimson version of "The Hulk" or a demonic version of "Lassie" while attempting to cram The Rock down director Guillermo del Toro's throat.

"An executive said to me, `What about a regular actor who gets angry and turns into Hellboy?'" said del Toro, wrinkling his face in disgust. "I go, `That's ... not ... very good.

"Then they would say, `What if you call him Hellboy and he comes from Hell and all that, but he looks like a guy?' Then they would suggest things like, `Can he have a Hellmobile?' `Can he have a dog? A pet dog that comes from hell and is red?'

"It's funny when you say it," del Toro said in his Encino, Calif., office while the film was being edited. "But it's not funny when it happens."

Hellboy has no problem surviving a battle with a gargantuan monster tentacle, but he nearly didn't make it through the pummeling of bad ideas del Toro faced as he shopped his vision of the story from studio to studio.

After a six-year effort, the movie debuts in theaters Friday.

"I always was thinking, `The movie's never going to be made. Don't get your hopes up,'" said Mike Mignola, the comic book artist who created the character in 1993.

"It got to be a very bumpy road at some points," added del Toro, the 39-year-old Mexican filmmaker whose previous credits include "Mimic," "Blade II" and the Spanish-language "The Devil's Backbone."

"It went through every permutation. I had studios where I would start a meeting, and they would say, `You're not making him red are you?' And I go, `Yeah, he's red.' `You're not doing the tail are you?' `Yes, I'm doing the tail.' `You're not doing the horns? `Yes, I'm doing the horns.'"

Here was fear underlying those questions: What good is a movie star like The Rock, Nicolas Cage or Vin Diesel if he's obscured under the heavy makeup and prosthetics necessary to recreate the comic-book version of Hellboy?

That didn't matter to del Toro. He didn't want a movie star. He wanted a particular actor who is famous for not having a famous face - Ron Perlman.

"Hellboy is the guy that walks in with his box of tools and says, `Where's the leak?' He's a working stiff. He's a plumber, the guy who says, `I'm here to fix your monster problem,'" del Toro said.

He figured, who better for the part than a working-class actor?

"What Ron has, what Ron brought to it that was so important is that Joe Average, working stiff thing," Mignola said. "He already had the attitude of the character, a guy who never really got the red-carpet treatment."

Del Toro and Perlman had worked together on del Toro's first feature, the 1993 horror thriller "Cronos," and he chose the actor to play a boorish vampire villain in 2002's "Blade II."

Perlman is the towering, long-jawed character actor who played the subterranean romantic Vincent in the TV series "Beauty and the Beast," the drooling hunchback in "The Name of the Rose" and a semi-simian caveman in "Quest for Fire."

So many of his high-profile roles required masks that mainstream fame has eluded the actor despite more than 20 years of movie and TV work.

But that lack of bankability became a liability for "Hellboy."

"And at one point he said to me, `It's OK if you do it with someone else. I understand. If you cannot get it financed with me, fine,'" del Toro recalled.

Perlman said, "I just saw his desire to have me as the character holding back the project. ... I told him, `It was enough for me to know how hard you tried. Just make the movie and I'll come on opening night and cheer for you.'"

Del Toro persevered. His certainty that Perlman was the right actor, buoyed by Mignola's support for the choice, placed him at a crossroads.

Years ago, del Toro had caved in to studio pressure to change elements of his first Hollywood film, "Mimic," and regretted that debacle ever since. He said he liked the idea of "Hellboy" too much to start it with regrets.

"I learned on `Mimic' that if I make mistakes, I want to do my own. I'd rather make my mistakes than someone else's. With `Hellboy' it was very much a case of, if I lost that battle then I might as well give up the project."

His travels brought him to Revolution Studios, which founder Joe Roth and his partners liked to describe as "filmmaker friendly," a rare studio that would take a risk on a directors with an unusual project.

"He pitched it with all this passion, and we wanted to be in business with him," said Tom Sherak, a partner in Revolution Studios. "We believed in his vision, saw what he did before, and he laid this whole thing out for us. We took it hook, line and sinker."

That meant Perlman was locked in as the star - an enormous victory for a little-known actor.

"This is such a personal vindication for me," the actor said.

Del Toro's struggle to give him the part added extra significance. "Getting into the accouterments that one has to put on to become him (a four-part latex mask, body muscle suit.) was like a ceremonial adornment, like a samurai," Perlman said.

How did del Toro ultimately get his way?

"The thing I told studios again and again, and this is something that demonstrates how Hollywood thinks, I said to them, `If I told you Hellboy was a $30 million (computer-animated) character, you guys would be happy. But if I tell you this is the right actor, you're not.' What an obscene contradiction."

After finding open minds at Revolution, it helped that his price was right: he estimated a budget at about $60 million - still a huge amount, but nothing compared to the gargantuan price tags for "Spider-Man" and "X2: X-Men United."

"The key to this project was finding Revolution - and saying we'll do it for $60 million," del Toro said. "I mean, $60 million these days is 'Mona Lisa Smile.' It buys you an intimate movie with a star."

For Revolution, it remains a gamble. The "Hellboy" title is not as famous as "Spider-Man" or "X-Men." But if it's a hit, Revolution will have picked up a long-running franchise for a relatively cheap price.

"Don't tell Guillermo this, but if the picture had cost more, we would have made it," Sherak said. "How much more? I don't know. But it was a bargain in today's world."

Now it's wait-and-see time regarding sequels.

"Is this it? I hope so," Sherak said. "But I'm going to let the movie tell us that."

Perlman approaches the question with typical "Hellboy" pragmatism: "You got to get through the first one before you start worrying about the second one."
---------------------------------------

I've always liked Perlman, so I'll try and get around to seeing this one.

Stephen

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2004, 10:49:40 am »
Sounds good, in fact it sounds a lot better than some of the other comic book based movies that has come out in the last couple of years.  The problem I face is actually being dragged from my system and its new cable modem...  
 

Sirgod

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2004, 11:11:52 am »
LOL, Yeppers, I've been waiting awhile to see this one. I'll just have to steel my way from the PC and you all for a few hours this afternoon I think. I need a Brain dead Activity anyway.  

Stephen

Edit, after all the hooplah over the Passion, and Me being an Evil conservative, I hope this Movie doesn't raise any Anti-Nazi or Anti-Satanism.  
« Last Edit: April 02, 2004, 12:07:05 pm by Sirgod »

EE

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2004, 12:08:25 pm »
I might go watch it tomorrow. I have a H2 party coming up tonight ( Halloween 2 ). Its been thrown by Placebo Productions
 

Tremok

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2004, 05:59:55 pm »
 Saw it today. Cool and sylish, but lacked filling and depth.

The trailers for Van Helsing and King Authur have me quivering in anticipation.

I, Robot also looked interesting.    
 

Sirgod

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2004, 10:40:36 pm »
I didn't get to see those trailers, But the Punisher movie looks pretty good.

BTW, I would caution taking young children to see this, One of the main Bad Guy characters has a scene where an autopsy is being placed, and the dialogue from the Proffesser mentions the Nazi's obsetion with Massochistic, self Surgery. the Visuals of the bad guys Eye lids and Lips having been removed is not approriate in any way.

If your a Cthulu fan, and If you are willing to suspend any Beliefe for a few hours, It's well worth the time. Not much of a plot beyond Let's kill the Badguys and save the world, and Perlmans Glibness Seems to me , that he had fun making this movie. Hellboy apparently is a good Pitcher from Rooftops.

Stephen

pixel8er

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2004, 11:46:48 pm »
did someone say cthulu?
 

Kmelew

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2004, 11:47:52 pm »
Hey Stephen if you go and see the movie I dare you to show up at the theater with  this !  

Stormbringer

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2004, 11:53:24 pm »
cthulu? You just didit. (Gasp!) now I've said it!

"Cthulu! Cthulu! Cthulu!"

Aaaaarrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 

Sirgod

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #20 on: April 03, 2004, 09:49:42 am »
Quote:

Hey Stephen if you go and see the movie I dare you to show up at the theater with  this !  




Man If I only Knew about that, I would have put on my old Motorcycle leathers, Painted my helmet black, and went there in an instant. The only Problem would be Is that I don't exactly fit into my old 1080's era leathers, and would Probably Have People falling over in Laughter rather then Fear.  

but yes, the Hellhounds (sernaimien something or others), and even the Elder gods remin reminded me of something straight out of Lovecrafts mind. It's still hard for me to imagine how they did all those effects for only 60 mil.

Stephen

Yabrodan

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #21 on: April 03, 2004, 10:18:07 am »
I saw it at a preshowing on thursday, comic book shop won it in a contest and invited customers so it was a real freak show at the theater, I think it's pretty good but seemed like the begining of the movie was kind of rushed.  Was happy to see that hellboys dry humor was transferred into the movie and managed to work despite being kind of cliche.  

Sirgod

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any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2004, 10:24:11 am »
 http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/entertainment/8320929.htm

'Hellboy' Survives 6 Years of Hollywood

ANTHONY BREZNICAN

Associated Press


LOS ANGELES - This is Hellboy: a 6-foot-5 strongman with an oversized stone hand, whippy tail, shaved horns and skin the color of a red M&M. He's a demon summoned from the netherworld by Nazis in the 1940s in a failed bid to cause the end of the world - but rescued and raised by American paranormal researchers who taught him to be one of the good guys.

Sound weird? It is. Maybe too weird for Hollywood, which tried - and failed - to alternately turn it into a crimson version of "The Hulk" or a demonic version of "Lassie" while attempting to cram The Rock down director Guillermo del Toro's throat.

"An executive said to me, `What about a regular actor who gets angry and turns into Hellboy?'" said del Toro, wrinkling his face in disgust. "I go, `That's ... not ... very good.

"Then they would say, `What if you call him Hellboy and he comes from Hell and all that, but he looks like a guy?' Then they would suggest things like, `Can he have a Hellmobile?' `Can he have a dog? A pet dog that comes from hell and is red?'

"It's funny when you say it," del Toro said in his Encino, Calif., office while the film was being edited. "But it's not funny when it happens."

Hellboy has no problem surviving a battle with a gargantuan monster tentacle, but he nearly didn't make it through the pummeling of bad ideas del Toro faced as he shopped his vision of the story from studio to studio.

After a six-year effort, the movie debuts in theaters Friday.

"I always was thinking, `The movie's never going to be made. Don't get your hopes up,'" said Mike Mignola, the comic book artist who created the character in 1993.

"It got to be a very bumpy road at some points," added del Toro, the 39-year-old Mexican filmmaker whose previous credits include "Mimic," "Blade II" and the Spanish-language "The Devil's Backbone."

"It went through every permutation. I had studios where I would start a meeting, and they would say, `You're not making him red are you?' And I go, `Yeah, he's red.' `You're not doing the tail are you?' `Yes, I'm doing the tail.' `You're not doing the horns? `Yes, I'm doing the horns.'"

Here was fear underlying those questions: What good is a movie star like The Rock, Nicolas Cage or Vin Diesel if he's obscured under the heavy makeup and prosthetics necessary to recreate the comic-book version of Hellboy?

That didn't matter to del Toro. He didn't want a movie star. He wanted a particular actor who is famous for not having a famous face - Ron Perlman.

"Hellboy is the guy that walks in with his box of tools and says, `Where's the leak?' He's a working stiff. He's a plumber, the guy who says, `I'm here to fix your monster problem,'" del Toro said.

He figured, who better for the part than a working-class actor?

"What Ron has, what Ron brought to it that was so important is that Joe Average, working stiff thing," Mignola said. "He already had the attitude of the character, a guy who never really got the red-carpet treatment."

Del Toro and Perlman had worked together on del Toro's first feature, the 1993 horror thriller "Cronos," and he chose the actor to play a boorish vampire villain in 2002's "Blade II."

Perlman is the towering, long-jawed character actor who played the subterranean romantic Vincent in the TV series "Beauty and the Beast," the drooling hunchback in "The Name of the Rose" and a semi-simian caveman in "Quest for Fire."

So many of his high-profile roles required masks that mainstream fame has eluded the actor despite more than 20 years of movie and TV work.

But that lack of bankability became a liability for "Hellboy."

"And at one point he said to me, `It's OK if you do it with someone else. I understand. If you cannot get it financed with me, fine,'" del Toro recalled.

Perlman said, "I just saw his desire to have me as the character holding back the project. ... I told him, `It was enough for me to know how hard you tried. Just make the movie and I'll come on opening night and cheer for you.'"

Del Toro persevered. His certainty that Perlman was the right actor, buoyed by Mignola's support for the choice, placed him at a crossroads.

Years ago, del Toro had caved in to studio pressure to change elements of his first Hollywood film, "Mimic," and regretted that debacle ever since. He said he liked the idea of "Hellboy" too much to start it with regrets.

"I learned on `Mimic' that if I make mistakes, I want to do my own. I'd rather make my mistakes than someone else's. With `Hellboy' it was very much a case of, if I lost that battle then I might as well give up the project."

His travels brought him to Revolution Studios, which founder Joe Roth and his partners liked to describe as "filmmaker friendly," a rare studio that would take a risk on a directors with an unusual project.

"He pitched it with all this passion, and we wanted to be in business with him," said Tom Sherak, a partner in Revolution Studios. "We believed in his vision, saw what he did before, and he laid this whole thing out for us. We took it hook, line and sinker."

That meant Perlman was locked in as the star - an enormous victory for a little-known actor.

"This is such a personal vindication for me," the actor said.

Del Toro's struggle to give him the part added extra significance. "Getting into the accouterments that one has to put on to become him (a four-part latex mask, body muscle suit.) was like a ceremonial adornment, like a samurai," Perlman said.

How did del Toro ultimately get his way?

"The thing I told studios again and again, and this is something that demonstrates how Hollywood thinks, I said to them, `If I told you Hellboy was a $30 million (computer-animated) character, you guys would be happy. But if I tell you this is the right actor, you're not.' What an obscene contradiction."

After finding open minds at Revolution, it helped that his price was right: he estimated a budget at about $60 million - still a huge amount, but nothing compared to the gargantuan price tags for "Spider-Man" and "X2: X-Men United."

"The key to this project was finding Revolution - and saying we'll do it for $60 million," del Toro said. "I mean, $60 million these days is 'Mona Lisa Smile.' It buys you an intimate movie with a star."

For Revolution, it remains a gamble. The "Hellboy" title is not as famous as "Spider-Man" or "X-Men." But if it's a hit, Revolution will have picked up a long-running franchise for a relatively cheap price.

"Don't tell Guillermo this, but if the picture had cost more, we would have made it," Sherak said. "How much more? I don't know. But it was a bargain in today's world."

Now it's wait-and-see time regarding sequels.

"Is this it? I hope so," Sherak said. "But I'm going to let the movie tell us that."

Perlman approaches the question with typical "Hellboy" pragmatism: "You got to get through the first one before you start worrying about the second one."
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I've always liked Perlman, so I'll try and get around to seeing this one.

Stephen

Javora

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2004, 10:49:40 am »
Sounds good, in fact it sounds a lot better than some of the other comic book based movies that has come out in the last couple of years.  The problem I face is actually being dragged from my system and its new cable modem...  
 

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #24 on: April 02, 2004, 11:11:52 am »
LOL, Yeppers, I've been waiting awhile to see this one. I'll just have to steel my way from the PC and you all for a few hours this afternoon I think. I need a Brain dead Activity anyway.  

Stephen

Edit, after all the hooplah over the Passion, and Me being an Evil conservative, I hope this Movie doesn't raise any Anti-Nazi or Anti-Satanism.  
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EE

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2004, 12:08:25 pm »
I might go watch it tomorrow. I have a H2 party coming up tonight ( Halloween 2 ). Its been thrown by Placebo Productions
 

Tremok

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2004, 05:59:55 pm »
 Saw it today. Cool and sylish, but lacked filling and depth.

The trailers for Van Helsing and King Authur have me quivering in anticipation.

I, Robot also looked interesting.    
 

Sirgod

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2004, 10:40:36 pm »
I didn't get to see those trailers, But the Punisher movie looks pretty good.

BTW, I would caution taking young children to see this, One of the main Bad Guy characters has a scene where an autopsy is being placed, and the dialogue from the Proffesser mentions the Nazi's obsetion with Massochistic, self Surgery. the Visuals of the bad guys Eye lids and Lips having been removed is not approriate in any way.

If your a Cthulu fan, and If you are willing to suspend any Beliefe for a few hours, It's well worth the time. Not much of a plot beyond Let's kill the Badguys and save the world, and Perlmans Glibness Seems to me , that he had fun making this movie. Hellboy apparently is a good Pitcher from Rooftops.

Stephen

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2004, 11:46:48 pm »
did someone say cthulu?
 

Kmelew

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2004, 11:47:52 pm »
Hey Stephen if you go and see the movie I dare you to show up at the theater with  this !  

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #30 on: April 02, 2004, 11:53:24 pm »
cthulu? You just didit. (Gasp!) now I've said it!

"Cthulu! Cthulu! Cthulu!"

Aaaaarrrgghhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 

Sirgod

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #31 on: April 03, 2004, 09:49:42 am »
Quote:

Hey Stephen if you go and see the movie I dare you to show up at the theater with  this !  




Man If I only Knew about that, I would have put on my old Motorcycle leathers, Painted my helmet black, and went there in an instant. The only Problem would be Is that I don't exactly fit into my old 1080's era leathers, and would Probably Have People falling over in Laughter rather then Fear.  

but yes, the Hellhounds (sernaimien something or others), and even the Elder gods remin reminded me of something straight out of Lovecrafts mind. It's still hard for me to imagine how they did all those effects for only 60 mil.

Stephen

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Re: any one going to see Hellboy this weekend?
« Reply #32 on: April 03, 2004, 10:18:07 am »
I saw it at a preshowing on thursday, comic book shop won it in a contest and invited customers so it was a real freak show at the theater, I think it's pretty good but seemed like the begining of the movie was kind of rushed.  Was happy to see that hellboys dry humor was transferred into the movie and managed to work despite being kind of cliche.