Topic: TNG Stars Say It's Over, but Kirk eiger to appear on Enterprise!

[FFZ]

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BTW B5 trumps everything but TOS in my book (and TOS vs. B5 would be a good
knock down drag out for me).  The writing in B5 makes the writing in modern Trek
look like a 3rd grade play.

Thanks,

Dave  

Well, to be fair, B-5 was a self-contained storyline, that was planned from the start to go a certain way.

Look at how bad year five of B-5 wasd, as well as the subpar follow on series and TV movies.

Also, dinosaur that I am, I have to mention that year three of ToS was incredibly lame, I doubt anyone would defend episodes like "Spock's Brain."  

"Brain and brain, what is brain???"

   

[Age]

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 Well, they wear blue jumpsuits, so the Red Shirts are safe for now.

Kirk isn't the ladies man anymore, the last times he put a move on a chick, she turned into him!    

They still do though on thier chests and shoulders of those jumpsuits.I never saw Capt.Kirk make a pass at women
        in Generations but he didn't have chance didn't he it was about one big fight scene.I wonder when some one in
        going to recue him out of the hulk of the saucer section of Enterprise D either from the past or present there
        a good movie in this to bring Kirk back alive if R. Berman or Paramout want my Ideas they are going to have
        get me down there everyone would like this I sure they would just like I thought of Empires ay War as TV
        series I have Ideas on that but they would have to get down there(Paramount).It would make a great tv series
        too.  

[DH123]

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[ . . . I thought of Empires ay War as TV
        series I have Ideas on that but they would have to get down there(Paramount).It would make a great tv series
        too.    

Actually, Ratboy's Timeline for the Andro invasion would make a great series of movies.  

[Stormbringer]

Kirk/ (Scorpion from Mortal Kombat): "Get Over Here!" "Come Here!"

Every Female of Every Species:  "Aieeeeeeeeeee!"

[David Ferrell]

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BTW B5 trumps everything but TOS in my book (and TOS vs. B5 would be a good
knock down drag out for me).  The writing in B5 makes the writing in modern Trek
look like a 3rd grade play.

Thanks,

Dave  

Well, to be fair, B-5 was a self-contained storyline, that was planned from the start to go a certain way.

Look at how bad year five of B-5 wasd, as well as the subpar follow on series and TV movies.

Also, dinosaur that I am, I have to mention that year three of ToS was incredibly lame, I doubt anyone would defend episodes like "Spock's Brain."  

"Brain and brain, what is brain???"

   

Year 5 of B5, there was a year 5?  Year 5 of B5 would be like telling Peter Jackson he needs to make
a 4th LotR movie and it can't be the Hobbit!  Oh yeah it also needs to be set after the end of RotK.

There were good 3rd season episodes, "The Enterprise Incident" immeidately pops to mind.  
There are many more I would put in the good or at least enjoyable category:
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/series/TOS/episodes/index.html?season=3
I think people are too willing to dismiss the whole season because of a few bad
apples.  Anyway, just my $0.02, your mileage may vary.

Thanks,

Dave

[FFZ]

  I would say about a third were good, a third watchable, and a thrid crap from ToS' third season.

Many of them feature a totally over-the-top Shatner hamming it up, like the episode where's he's an Indian, another over-acting fest can be seen in "the Empath," and several other horrible episodes, including the one that rivals "Spaock's Brain"  for stupidity, the great Trek Hippy fest, "The way to eden!"

HERBERT!
HERBERT!
HERBERT!
HERBERT!
HERBERT!      

[David Ferrell]

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Highest rated Sci-Fi channel == a small fraction of those who watched the original on ABC
every week.
 

Quite correct.
And also a reflection of the splintering of the TV market since cable. < 10 channels (actually 4??) then vs 100+ now  

Yes, but the original airing of the BSG pilot topped the Nielsen's with a 44 share  , the new show was like #17,
if memory serves, of the cable Nielsen's, being beat out by "The Fairly Odd Parents" amongnst others.  

Thanks,

Dave
 

[Karnak]

Latest SyFy rumor on Enterprise - Season 4 puts the series in the same "12 episodes ordered and then we will see" challenge as the new BSG series:

From Sci-Fi Wire:

UPN will green-light a fourth season of Star Trek: Enterprise, but will only give the struggling SF series a 12-episode commitment, according to a rumor on the SyFy Portal Web site. Citing two sources, SyFy Portal added that Enterprise could earn another 12-episode order if the ratings for the initial dozen episodes merit it.

The site noted that the retooled Enterprise, bolstered by heightened action and the Xindi arc, has performed reasonably well against such stiff competition as the Fox juggernaut American Idol and The WB's popular Smallville. SyFy Portal noted that it was still unclear whether or not longtime Trek executive producers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga would continue to run the show if it does return. A final announcement about the fate of Enterprise is expected within the next two weeks.

http://www.greatlink.org/dcisV2.asp?url=shownewsitem.asp?item=3274  

[Dash Jones]

Season 3 of TOS has some of my favorite episodes.  Truthfully, I haven't seen a TOS episode yet that I didn't like.

Now I've seen the original Battle Star Galactica series (got the DVDs though there was some problems being able to watch them...finally was able to!) and have to say, that series is AWESOME!

I have not seen the new series, or remake of BSG.

[Death_Merchant]

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Highest rated Sci-Fi channel == a small fraction of those who watched the original on ABC
every week.
 

Quite correct.
And also a reflection of the splintering of the TV market since cable. < 10 channels (actually 4??) then vs 100+ now  

Yes, but the original airing of the BSG pilot topped the Nielsen's with a 44 share  , the new show was like #17,
if memory serves, of the cable Nielsen's, being beat out by "The Fairly Odd Parents" amongnst others.  
 

I picked the BSG pilot over "The Fairly Odd Parents", but may have picked FOP over Enterprise....
To each his own....
Have you ever seen FOP? Actually pretty funny, my kids love it. The "Arnold" fairy is a riot.  

[Khalee]

Heightend Action!?!? Does that mean the More sex and More Violence that they have been showing?.

[Age]

   I think we need to support it guys to further the franchise and to come up with new and more exiciting Star Trek series set in the 23C.It would be noce to see the gaps and hole that we didn't see in TOS or TMP.there is a mini movie out called Star Trek Exeter and can be viewed at www.ussexeter.com it might be capititalized.I think this would be a good start to fill in those gaps and holes.We need to keep the franchise alive somehow and it might bring in some fans into the SFC. series wich would get bigger so we must support it even though it is not what we expected it to be.I hope you all continue to watch it there are not in this forum that see it continue a friend of mine wants see that as she is a big Star Trek fan.  

[ActiveX]

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still unclear whether or not longtime Trek executive producers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga would continue to run the show if it does return.

Best. Possible News. Evar.

[David Ferrell]

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Highest rated Sci-Fi channel == a small fraction of those who watched the original on ABC
every week.
 

Quite correct.
And also a reflection of the splintering of the TV market since cable. < 10 channels (actually 4??) then vs 100+ now  

Yes, but the original airing of the BSG pilot topped the Nielsen's with a 44 share  , the new show was like #17,
if memory serves, of the cable Nielsen's, being beat out by "The Fairly Odd Parents" amongnst others.  
 

I picked the BSG pilot over "The Fairly Odd Parents", but may have picked FOP over Enterprise....
To each his own....
Have you ever seen FOP? Actually pretty funny, my kids love it. The "Arnold" fairy is a riot.  

Well have to agree to disagree on the FOP as well .  It just doesn't do anything for me.  Been suffering
through the "Crimson Chin and Cleft the Boy Chin Wonder" as well on Nicktoons (during Pinky and the Brain
and Angry Beavers of course), and don't find it funny, just lame.  Again to each his own and cestel la vie.

Thanks,

Dave

[NannerSlug]

you want to bring enterprise ratings up? bring kirk back and get rid of b&b.

[jualdeaux]

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you want to bring enterprise ratings up? bring kirk back and get rid of b&b.  

I'd simply get rid of B&B.  Whoever they get to replace them can't do a worse job.

[Magnum357]

Well, hearing that William Shatner may play a role in Enterprise and that he may wright it is an interesting idea.  Actually, this would be an interesting idea if Star Trek was "Re envisioned" much like the new BSG show (which I might add, I really enjoyed the new BSG piliot movie aired a few months ago).  I have been saying from the very beginning that Enterprise should be considered a different Timeline/Universe and that things are different in this reality.  Much like when I play SFC:OP, I think of it as the SFB universe, while I play SFC3 for the Star Trek universe.  Both Timelines have simularites, but both have differences.  We have already see that this expanse thingy is not even in Daniels Timeline and keeps trying too tell archer too change it, we may be already seeing my theory come true.    I doubt it though.  Not sure how William Shatner is going too fit in all this.  Is he going too play Kirk from the 23rd century only in another timeline or something?  Now that would be interesting!  

If this was too happen, this might even get Paramont too ease the presure off of ADB about their SFB game system.  With people understanding that SFB is actually a different Timeline/Universe and was  trying too help out the Star Trek crowd with a good tactical board game, maybe then Paramont might negotiate with ADB and Taldren too make a SFB style game, or a "Galaxies At War" SFC as everyone has wanted.  If I recall, Rodenberry was mostly too blaim for ADB's problems.  On second thought... na, this is too much of a pipe dream.  

[Death_Merchant]

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Well have to agree to disagree on the FOP as well .  It just doesn't do anything for me.  Been suffering
through the "Crimson Chin and Cleft the Boy Chin Wonder" as well on Nicktoons (during Pinky and the Brain
and Angry Beavers of course), and don't find it funny, just lame.  Again to each his own and cestel la vie.
 

LOL... don't be too sure on our universal disagreement.
I find it funny in small doses. You know: "Daddy, will you watch this with me?"
She's 3. Current attention span = 4 minutes max.
It's not exactly like I hunker down with a big 'ole bowl of popcorn

We certainly agree on B5.  

[FFZ]

  Possible Shatner plot has Kirk arriving to find B&B are the "future boys," and killing them with repeated 'Kirk kicks.'  

[Sirgod]

BTW, I just picked up Captains Blood yesterday. Haven't got to read It yet, But apparently After the Nemesis movie, Spock is assinated on Romulus while still trying to do his Unification thing. Leaving Kirk to come to Romulus as a Civilian.

Sounds interesting.

Stephen