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Fury_of_a_Seraph

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OT: To anyone who speaks Latin...
« on: March 31, 2004, 12:12:40 pm »
Could you translate the Following phrase into latin for me?

"The War Against God"

Its for a school project

Thanks

DestinyCalling

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Re: OT: To anyone who speaks Latin...
« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2004, 01:57:29 pm »
"bellum repugno deus"

Though I confess I'm no expert......

 

Johanobesus

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Re: OT: To anyone who speaks Latin...
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2004, 03:25:16 am »
Actually, I believe "bellum contra Deum" would be the literal translation, though I think it may be more normal to say "bellum cum Deo."  

DestinyCalling

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Re: OT: To anyone who speaks Latin...
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2004, 08:30:03 am »
Though like I say.... I'm no expert... There are plenty of Latin words for "against", context dependant.... I plummed for the "in opposition to" one....

Actually, I dont have a clue, I should just shut up and be quiet.....

   

Dizzy

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Re: OT: To anyone who speaks Latin...
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2004, 10:27:23 am »
'Appugno' means to fight.

Deus is the general term for a god, but remember before latin became a dead language, polytheisim was the general religious practice followed despite the impact of the rapidly spreading mono theism introduced sometime after 306. It would be highly unlikely there would be any who opposed all gods. Although one may fall out of favor to one god there were always  others who were benevolent whilist others vengenful.

Polytheism had its roots firmly planted in Greek cultural custom and religious worship until Consantine converted to christianity after becoming emperor of Rome in 306. His conversion to christianity had a huge impact with far reaching effects on common practices of religion of all factions seen even today. At the time of his conversion, he was the most powerful and influential ruler in all the western world. His conversion is quite an interesting story as well.

'Nefastus' could mean unholy. Combine this with  'bellis', wage war, then 'reclamito' meaning to cry out against adding deus and you have something like 'unholy war against the god(s),

'Motus' could be a movement 'impingo' is to drive against and then 'belligero' means to wage war could be put together like 'Motus belligero impingo deus', the movement to wage war against the God(s).

Or you could use any number of combinations. There are a ton of words that could be substituted, but different local dialects of the time combined with varying educational levels of vocabulary and social class would have a lot to do with how it is put together.

Overall, I think the english phrase, "The war against god' doesnt have any real direct translation to latin because in latin, that phrase didnt exist as such.

So for a school project, the assignment may be to find the best words to translate it, but there is no right answer. It is a phrase that exists in many languages today in some form or another, albeit best when describing the assault on the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America in school classrooms by athiests. tie that in with the latin translation and you may get an A+.

 
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Sirgod

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Re: OT: To anyone who speaks Latin...
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2004, 12:17:36 pm »
Interesting.

Stephen

starwolf3500

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Re: OT: To anyone who speaks Latin...
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2004, 01:28:09 pm »
Quote:

'Appugno' means to fight.

Deus is the general term for a god, but remember before latin became a dead language, polytheisim was the general religious practice followed despite the impact of the rapidly spreading mono theism introduced sometime after 306. It would be highly unlikely there would be any who opposed all gods. Although one may fall out of favor to one god there were always  others who were benevolent whilist others vengenful.

Polytheism had its roots firmly planted in Greek cultural custom and religious worship until Consantine converted to christianity after becoming emperor of Rome in 306. His conversion to christianity had a huge impact with far reaching effects on common practices of religion of all factions seen even today. At the time of his conversion, he was the most powerful and influential ruler in all the western world. His conversion is quite an interesting story as well.

'Nefastus' could mean unholy. Combine this with  'bellis', wage war, then 'reclamito' meaning to cry out against adding deus and you have something like 'unholy war against the god(s),

'Motus' could be a movement 'impingo' is to drive against and then 'belligero' means to wage war could be put together like 'Motus belligero impingo deus', the movement to wage war against the God(s).

Or you could use any number of combinations. There are a ton of words that could be substituted, but different local dialects of the time combined with varying educational levels of vocabulary and social class would have a lot to do with how it is put together.

Overall, I think the english phrase, "The war against god' doesnt have any real direct translation to latin because in latin, that phrase didnt exist as such.

So for a school project, the assignment may be to find the best words to translate it, but there is no right answer. It is a phrase that exists in many languages today in some form or another, albeit best when describing the assault on the Pledge of Allegiance to the United States of America in school classrooms by athiests. tie that in with the latin translation and you may get an A+.

 




And this is why I slept through 3 years of Latin in high school  :P



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