Topic: Tholians v. Seltorians

[Fury_of_a_Seraph]

When the Seltorians followed the Tholians here, they fought....who won?

If the Tholians won, it would explain how they got tech that finally allowed them to get new ships (IE: KA Designs)

[starforce2]

I thought seltorians had crap weponry?

[Marauth]

*Sucks in breath in Ace Ventura style*

The Seltorians were the only race in the Home Galaxy that the Tholians allowed to maintin a fleet as they needed them to keep the other thrall races that the Tholians had conquered in check, as a result they got the same tech pretty much that the Tholians got with the important exception of no webcasters. As a result when they planned to overthrow the Tholians they secretly developed the webbreakera kind of anti-webcaster weapon that really kind of sux in practical terms, somehow they won though and some of the Tholians fled. The Tholians arrived in our galaxy and set up shop in the eastern edge of Klingon space and forced the Klinks out, the Seltorians sent out loads of motherships to hunt down the surviving groups of Tholiansand one such mothership found it's way to our galaxy and made an alliance with the Klingons who saw the Selts as an ally against the Tholians who could then be kicked out afterwards. Unfortunately for the Klinks the Selts failed to destroy the Holdfast and they themselves set up in the eastern Klingon empire and began breeding. Being nothing but giant cockroaches this happened fast. During the ISC pacification campaign the ISC came across the Tholians and Selts and decided that the Seltorians were causing the problem and bombarded the Seltorian colonies and destroyed their entire fleet wiping them out in the Milky Way.

*breathes out*

So in word the Seltorians who made it to the Milky Way were wiped out by the ISC and the Tholians won.

[Rod O'neal]

The Selts were armed with particle cannons and shield crackers, the latter they developed into web breakers.

Particle cannons are basically slightly less powerful disruptors that fire twice per turn. Their overall effectiveness is a bit better than disruptors.

The shield cracker only damages shields. It has no effect on the ship itself. It was designed to allow the Seltorians to just knock down the shields of a criminal/dissident and then board and capture the vessel (their ships are equipped with large transporter arrays and lots of boarding parties) rather than destroy it. The Seltorians secretly developed the web breaker from shield cracker tech. Against Tholians this weapon is very effective.
Since the designs of their ships are for capturing though and not destroying an opponent they are at a bit of a disadvantage in battle against most other races. This is where the idea of their weapons sucking comes from. They're just over specialized for standard combat tactics.
Selt ships are also heavily FA arc oriented in their weaponry and not very maneuverable. They were designed to chase down their adversary. Standard anti-Selt tactics are to get behind them. Since there weren't any seeking weapons used in the Tholian home galaxy (they had evolved beyond that weapons wise) they also have poor point defenses.

The Seltorians were the "police" force of the Tholian empire. They were actually created by the Tholians. Much like the subject races of the Dominion in DS9. Unlike DS9 though the Seltorians did not regard the Tholians as their gods and resented them. The story of the Tholians and Seltorians closely mimics Frankenstein, where the creator is destroyed by his own creation.
Once the Klingons realized that the Seltorian force that arrived in our galaxy was merely a scout force and was going to wait for reinforcements from their home galaxy before actually trying to eliminate the Tholians (A trip that would take 200 years) they weren't very happy with their new allies. The Klingons had no intention of letting the Tholians stay in the Holdfast for 200 years. When they did the math on the Seltorian's prolific breeding, they decided that the Seltorians were a threat to the Klingon Empire and called in the "exterminator" themselves. Between the ISC and their "allies" the Klingons, the Seltorians had a short history in our galaxy.      

[Reverend]

wow.. thats waht happened..  

[sandman69247]

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wow.. thats waht happened..  

What he said...WOW! I have to ask, since I grew up in a cave and never even heard of SFB before I bought SFC, are there any websites that lay out the SFB universe and the stories such as this one? I especially want to see the descriptions/pics of the ships. But the stories too...I love a good story.

Anyway, thanx for the info...really helps with understanding some of the posts lately...have to admit I been passing them by due to ignorance. But, on the brightside, now I have a bunch of threads to go back to and occupy my time 'til I get my new hd.  

[Marauth]

I dunno where it's located bu there is a history of the General War somewhere on ADB's site www.starfleetgames.com, I couldn't find it just now but it's there somewhere. They never released any other complete histories feeling it better to milk us for every penny and force us to buy modules to read more histroy (about the ISC Pacification and Andromedan Invasion etc.)

[Magnum357]

Also, a little footnote in this history lesson, the Seltorians (nor the Tholians) had ever developed PF technology in their home Galaxy.  The Seltorians fell in love with PF's when the Klingons introduced their G-1's too them.  The Seltorians "Hunter" fleet was reletively small (even small compared too the Tholian Holdfast) which mean the Seltorians had few ships (Their Heavy Crusier was their main "Battleship" but they couild never build more then a few).  But PF's where cheap and easy too build and since Seltorians breeded extremely fast, PF's became the main weapon of choice of the Seltorian forces.  If I recall, it was indicated their where tons of PF battles between Tholians and Seltorians.  

[ModelsPlease]

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wow.. thats waht happened..  

I concur WOW !! Great story indeed.Thank you for sharing.Now when I set up my different mods that I use.I know to make them enemies.
 
-MP