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SOSNero

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How many people will play DOE?
« on: February 26, 2003, 08:36:41 am »
Since I have been talked into flying on the D2 for the Romulan cause I'd like to know.   The D3 Activision servers generally have over 40 peeps on at a time.   Anything under 20 is dull.

So will there be enough players?

Also, is it mostly noobs or vets.  I get enough noobs on the D3.  I'd like to test my skills against someone who has a clue what the hell they are doing.

If this isn't going to be a challange for the SOS why bother?   Personally Cleo . . . . well you know my thoughts on this.    We need to practice up on the D3 under the new patch.  Whenever the heck that comes out in a supported version.    I agree until the patch comes out we might as well have some fun here in D2land,  but not if it's going to be boring.

Hoping for a good turnout.

 NERO the Mad  

KOTH-Steel Claw

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2003, 08:48:41 am »
Egads!!! Nero flying Rom! What is the world comoing to?

Fear not, I am looking into drumming up some fun for you guys. Granted we may not be the skilled folks you want to game with, but we can hopefully give you guys something of a run for your money.

SFC2.net has a server up now. We are also waiting with baited breath (no, really, we use bait) for their next serious server due out soon.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by KOTH-Steel Claw »

SOSNero

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2003, 08:55:16 am »
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Egads!!! Nero flying Rom! What is the world comoing to?

Fear not, I am looking into drumming up some fun for you guys. Granted we may not be the skilled folks you want to game with, but we can hopefully give you guys something of a run for your money.

SFC2.net has a server up now. We are also waiting with baited breath (no, really, we use bait) for their next serious server due out soon.  




Hail Steel Claw!

What race will you fly for DOE?

Thanks for the response.  I just hope this server everyone is talking about is out before the "supported" D3 patch.

On the patch support issue,  I see Mr. Haggerty from ATVI is now posting on the Taldren General Forums.   I also see a lot of deleted posts.   Ugly over there.

 NERO the Mad    

KOTH-Steel Claw

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2003, 08:57:00 am »
I would venture to say that KAT/KOTH will be flying Kzin on D2 servers.  

SOSNero

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #4 on: February 26, 2003, 09:01:02 am »
I was told DOE was  Feds & Gorn vs. Romulans only.    So you going to be a noob (Fed) a target (Gorn) or a Victor??

If other races are involved I've been misinformed by Cleo.   She's always right though.   At least that is what she tells us.


NERO the Mad    
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**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2003, 09:06:04 am »
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Also, is it mostly noobs or vets.  I get enough noobs on the D3.  I'd like to test my skills against someone who has a clue what the hell they are doing.
 NERO the Mad  




Fresh meat      

SOSTommyPrince

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2003, 09:14:11 am »
A couple questions.
Who are Die Hard, Max Power and Ikkerpig? What did they do?
What is your normal turnout on the d2? Say about 8pm est? We SOS'ers are used to a target rich enviroment. I don't think any of us has done d2 in a long time (some not at all) so we are a little worried about if it will be worth our time. The d3 is our home, but our discust with the state of affairs until we get a definitive patch has lead us to dv2. Most of us had the game collecting dust, the rest found it in the bargin bin. I know in my case some guy named chub or choot or something showed up on acti C blabbing about how the dv2 was much better now. I talked to a couple fleetmates and we are here now, hoping for a worthwhile game.
Thanks for your time, may we meet in battle!
 

**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2003, 09:33:39 am »
Quote:

A couple questions.
Who are Die Hard, Max Power and Ikkerpig? What did they do?
What is your normal turnout on the d2? Say about 8pm est? We SOS'ers are used to a target rich enviroment. I don't think any of us has done d2 in a long time (some not at all) so we are a little worried about if it will be worth our time. The d3 is our home, but our discust with the state of affairs until we get a definitive patch has lead us to dv2. Most of us had the game collecting dust, the rest found it in the bargin bin. I know in my case some guy named chub or choot or something showed up on acti C blabbing about how the dv2 was much better now. I talked to a couple fleetmates and we are here now, hoping for a worthwhile game.
Thanks for your time, may we meet in battle!
 




DH,max,and licker were banned for what Taldren determined to be grievous forum abuse.....its not fair to lump them together as it was three different different people with three different issues....

A petition thread was run for their reinstatment to the boards.....but as of this time ..Taldren's answer is no...

Frankly.....you shouldnt be worried about turn out.....you should be worried that your pilots who never played SFC2 will get their heads handed to them by Veteran Federation Captains....SFC3 and SFC2 are different battle systems...right now....your fleet should be training....and training hard....

This isnt a slam on your fleet or your skills.....simply a desire to get your fleets best game and see that your pilots dont get disgouraged with a different level of gameplay.....





 

SOSGuderian

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2003, 09:37:41 am »
I'm definitely going to be there.  I can hardly wait to renew the test of arms with out age-old enemies the Federation and the Gorn.


In the meantime, I've been playing on SFC2.NET 7.35.  It has been a little tedious due to low turnout, but decent practice, nonetheless.




 

FatherTed

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2003, 09:43:48 am »
Drags out the lizard skin cassock. Cracks open a Foster's-G'day Bruce, Father Bruce here, looking forward to flying with the rest of the Bruces. Ghdaria! Ghdaria! Ghdaria!    

SOSTommyPrince

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2003, 09:51:12 am »
Thanks for the reply Criminik.
As for us getting discouraged, well we've been putting up with the follow target bug, the seeking shuttle bug, magic probes, limp wristed disrupters, never hit plasmas....
I think we are pretty forgiving and willing to learn. We want to have fun and kick the crap out of the feds! (these two ideas are not mutually exclusive) I won't go into details about the dv3 bias about the feds, but the idea of kicking thier ass on something approaching even terms is very appealing! Plus they have Gorn lap dogs, which make exellent luggage, miniskirts, furniture coverings, emergency prophylactics and shoe soles.
May we meet in battle- and have fun!
 

KOTH-Steel Claw

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2003, 09:53:55 am »
If DOE is going to be limited to those three races (all inferior, but what the hey), I am not sure. But, since the SOS gauntlet has been thrown, I doubt we would play Rom. Guess we would have to get the members to choose.

 

Karnak

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2003, 09:55:03 am »
I'll be going through Beta Test trials of the GFL D2 dyna campaign, www.gfluniverse.net/d2/ , I am developing so I won't be able to play DOE.  Also, two of my favorite races, Klingon and ISC, are not involved.  
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**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2003, 09:59:21 am »
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Drags out the lizard skin cassock. Cracks open a Foster's-G'day Bruce, Father Bruce here, looking forward to flying with the rest of the Bruces. Ghdaria! Ghdaria! Ghdaria!    




Federation Captains such as he....

SFC2 Federation Ranks include some of the finest pilots in the game.

It is allways and Honor to meet those pilots in battle.

And remember this SOS... they have cut their teeth on the best of the Romulan and Klingon Empires for over two years....

Order extra body bags....you may have need of them

**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2003, 10:20:07 am »
Quote:

Thanks for the reply Criminik.
As for us getting discouraged, well we've been putting up with the follow target bug, the seeking shuttle bug, magic probes, limp wristed disrupters, never hit plasmas....
I think we are pretty forgiving and willing to learn. We want to have fun and kick the crap out of the feds! (these two ideas are not mutually exclusive) I won't go into details about the dv3 bias about the feds, but the idea of kicking thier ass on something approaching even terms is very appealing! Plus they have Gorn lap dogs, which make exellent luggage, miniskirts, furniture coverings, emergency prophylactics and shoe soles.
May we meet in battle- and have fun!
 




Well...I admire the spirit of your fleet....

Welcome to your next addiction....

You may want to do some research on the following tactics....

The Gorn anchor

The Photinic colonic aka The Federation anchor

The hammer

Phaser boating

The Photon dance

The Plasma ballet

The broadside

The shield shredder

The Phaser enema

The thatch weave

The shove

The whip

The tug

The scatter pack whack attack...

The suicide overrun

The starcastle

The wolf pack

The stalking horse

And thats just for Feds and Gorns....you can imagine the amount of specific tactics when talking all about an race DV

 

FatherTed

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2003, 10:34:53 am »
You only forgot the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.    

Maxillius

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2003, 10:38:48 am »
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You only forgot the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.    




hehe.. t-bombs... I loooove t-bombs   muahahahahaha  

 

**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2003, 10:40:50 am »
Quote:

You only forgot the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.    




 

Hehehe...it's only a rabbit!.....I'll killl it!

LongTooth

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2003, 11:01:09 am »
Nero trust me there will be enough players most will be long standing vets and are very honrable I will bet money you wont find any cheaters
Many a D3 player has his or her's roots in sfc2 and a lot started out in sfc1
A have herd that a lot of feds have moved on to D3 so I am not sure how many will be about Ill end up playing for the smallest numbered race on the server
(if its fed Ill be easy meat rom I should do ok and hell if its gorn I may even win a few:))
Its all ways nice to see new faces on the d2 and from what I have read some of your fleet members a new to sfc2 but I do think they will like it
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Goose

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2003, 11:14:43 am »
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A couple questions.
Who are Die Hard, Max Power and Ikkerpig? What did they do?
What is your normal turnout on the d2? Say about 8pm est? We SOS'ers are used to a target rich enviroment. I don't think any of us has done d2 in a long time (some not at all) so we are a little worried about if it will be worth our time. The d3 is our home, but our discust with the state of affairs until we get a definitive patch has lead us to dv2. Most of us had the game collecting dust, the rest found it in the bargin bin. I know in my case some guy named chub or choot or something showed up on acti C blabbing about how the dv2 was much better now. I talked to a couple fleetmates and we are here now, hoping for a worthwhile game.
Thanks for your time, may we meet in battle!
 




Hee hee hee Fresh meat is right!

Let's see...
At the height of SFC2.net, formerly known as Canada West, we had over 100 on line at once. This naturally led to database problems and the limit was reduced to 75. This reduced the number of database problems but it did tend to produce waiting times to get logged on (waiting times, that should be new to D3 players).

As for whether or not it is worth your time.

A most definate and resounding YES!

Think about it, where do you think the basis for the D3 evolved from? answer: The same place as D2.

Those that have beena round D2 for a while (jumps up and down and waves hands along with a few others in this thread) can recognize a lot of the aspects and *cough*updates*cough* in the D3 that came out of feedback from D2. If SOS has picked uip the mantle in D3, it is a mantle that started in D2.

Unfortunately you will find other aspects in D3 as well some of the bugs and poor sportamanship are still there. But as a community we have established ways of dealing with them, something D3 may still be trying to define.

Chances are most of the respectable pilots in D3 cut their teeth in D2.

Add to all of this four more races.

Any possibility of Mirak in this server? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease? Give thema real taste of weapon variety.

Having a new aspect such as an entire fleet would be most refreshing.  

Kieran Forester

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2003, 03:30:14 pm »
Yeah, I think Kieran the Bruce will rattle his scales once again for DOE. Either that, or all my fur will fall out and I'll grow pointy ears.

SOS_Skorzeny

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2003, 03:38:20 pm »
Count me in!

*SOS-Skorzeny

Matsukasi

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2003, 05:25:58 pm »
I'll be sporting blue spandex for this one. ( God help me. )

SOSFlaviusSilva

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #23 on: February 26, 2003, 06:27:29 pm »
Hi,

I am just getting started here too.

Whats a T-BOMB ?????  Is that like an AMML mine???  

Toten

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #24 on: February 26, 2003, 07:12:43 pm »
Hail,

I will be playing on DOE.

SOS players I would suggest that if you have questions to logg onto the EAW 7.35 server and hook up with other players for some in game instruction.

I suggest this because SFC3 D3 play is so different from D2 EAW gaming as to make them almost uncompareable.

Everything from ship workings to hex missions is different.  

SOSCleopatra

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2003, 11:04:05 pm »
I'll be there of course silly boys,

And if any of you want to see me in a Gorn-hide leather mini-skirt, I suggest you come and fly Rom with me....

<Bats eyes>  .....just walk this way....  <walks away in a fashion to make male eyes pop from their sockets>

<giggle>

SOSHannible1

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2003, 09:24:15 am »
I guess Im playing, having trouble finding a shiplist that works. Practiced some on single player skirmishes, whats up with the Cloak? It suxs. Nothing like D3 but the good side is plasma never misses or am I just getting way lucky?.  Anyway Im looking forward to this, I hear the orginization of the Races is really tight.






SOS-Hannible  

SOSGuderian

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #27 on: February 27, 2003, 09:45:31 am »
Quote:

Quote:

A couple questions.
Who are Die Hard, Max Power and Ikkerpig? What did they do?
What is your normal turnout on the d2? Say about 8pm est? We SOS'ers are used to a target rich enviroment. I don't think any of us has done d2 in a long time (some not at all) so we are a little worried about if it will be worth our time. The d3 is our home, but our discust with the state of affairs until we get a definitive patch has lead us to dv2. Most of us had the game collecting dust, the rest found it in the bargin bin. I know in my case some guy named chub or choot or something showed up on acti C blabbing about how the dv2 was much better now. I talked to a couple fleetmates and we are here now, hoping for a worthwhile game.
Thanks for your time, may we meet in battle!
 




DH,max,and licker were banned for what Taldren determined to be grievous forum abuse.....its not fair to lump them together as it was three different different people with three different issues....

A petition thread was run for their reinstatment to the boards.....but as of this time ..Taldren's answer is no...

Frankly.....you shouldnt be worried about turn out.....you should be worried that your pilots who never played SFC2 will get their heads handed to them by Veteran Federation Captains....SFC3 and SFC2 are different battle systems...right now....your fleet should be training....and training hard....

This isnt a slam on your fleet or your skills.....simply a desire to get your fleets best game and see that your pilots dont get disgouraged with a different level of gameplay.....





 





Have no fear, Klingon.  We don't get discouraged.  We get even.



I have to admit to being a bit troubled by the idea that it looks like the KATs and KOTHs, who fly Romulan in SFC3 seem to now be opting for something other than Romulan in DOE.  Who will fly Romulan?  Three or four SPQR guys and a few of us SOS types?  It's already two races (F/G) on one.


Regardless, we'll be there.




 
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**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2003, 10:04:45 am »
Fllow this link to the shiplist for SFC2.net 7.35 Elfs page

back up you original shiplist (taldren/starfleet command II/assets/specs) in another location first...

The list you DL is NOT zipped and simply named "shiplist"....

You DONT have to rename it...just right click.....copy......and paste over the list in BOTH the following locations!....

taldren/starfleet command II/assets/specs

taldren/starfleet command II/meta assets

The DV server list sometimes hangs for a 30 seconds or so (locks up).....just be patient and wait.....it will unfreeze and allow you to log in...

Plasma can only be avoided by outrunning it or using a decoy shuttle......

Recharge rates and slow so you really only want to fire when your pretty sure you'll hit....but Plasma is an AWESOME weapon.....most people will be leary of getting close when you have a launcher charged.....so allways keep one charged..hehe

You can also fire a "fake " or psuedo plasma to scare someone to open range or force them to luanch a decoy shuttle (which also foces them to slow to speed 4 or less)....but a crafty captain will launch a probe to see if your tubes are still charged before he weasles (decoy)...so dont count on this working....

Yeah..the AI is a pushover most times unless you are WAY out numbered or outclassed...but we dont play this game for AI...we play it for PvP.....although killing AI does have its place in the DV....

Again....sing out when you need help.....

We really want to get you peeps up to speed before the next campaign....you allready know how to play SFC....you just need to pick up the differences between SFC2 and SFC3.....

SOSGuderian

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #29 on: February 27, 2003, 10:07:57 am »
Be advised....some of us are actually veterans of all incarnations of this game.

Karnak

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #30 on: February 27, 2003, 10:16:19 am »
Quote:

  Originally posted by SOSGuderian:

Have no fear, Klingon. We don't get discouraged. We get even.



I have to admit to being a bit troubled by the idea that it looks like the KATs and KOTHs, who fly Romulan in SFC3 seem to now be opting for something other than Romulan in DOE. Who will fly Romulan? Three or four SPQR guys and a few of us SOS types? It's already two races (F/G) on one.


Regardless, we'll be there.




I like your style, Guderian.  If the numbers get really lop-sided and DOE does not clash with "ISC Invasion" server then I'll try to find some time to fly as Romulan.

Any excuse to BBQ a Feddie is a good excuse.

BTW, does SOS use RW or TS2 to co-ordinate attacks?  You will need it against the D2 veterans.  They use RW heavily to concentrate on one or two hexes so they can take a 30 DV hex down to 0 DV in less than 20 minutes.    

**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #31 on: February 27, 2003, 10:16:38 am »
Quote:

     

Have no fear, Klingon.  We don't get discouraged.  We get even.



I have to admit to being a bit troubled by the idea that it looks like the KATs and KOTHs, who fly Romulan in SFC3 seem to now be opting for something other than Romulan in DOE.  Who will fly Romulan?  Three or four SPQR guys and a few of us SOS types?  It's already two races (F/G) on one.


Regardless, we'll be there.




I wouldnt worry about numbers just yet....there are more Rommies cloaked around here than you may think  ....and many Klingon warriors never fly Fed or as Federation allies....call it role play  

**DONOTDELETE**

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #32 on: February 27, 2003, 10:22:04 am »
Quote:

Be advised....some of us are actually veterans of all incarnations of this game.  




RGR that...Yes I recall nero saying SOS had SFC2 vets....The information is for Non SFC2 playing SOS members and new people in general....

   

LongTooth

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #33 on: February 27, 2003, 01:38:34 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

A couple questions.
Who are Die Hard, Max Power and Ikkerpig? What did they do?
What is your normal turnout on the d2? Say about 8pm est? We SOS'ers are used to a target rich enviroment. I don't think any of us has done d2 in a long time (some not at all) so we are a little worried about if it will be worth our time. The d3 is our home, but our discust with the state of affairs until we get a definitive patch has lead us to dv2. Most of us had the game collecting dust, the rest found it in the bargin bin. I know in my case some guy named chub or choot or something showed up on acti C blabbing about how the dv2 was much better now. I talked to a couple fleetmates and we are here now, hoping for a worthwhile game.
Thanks for your time, may we meet in battle!
 




DH,max,and licker were banned for what Taldren determined to be grievous forum abuse.....its not fair to lump them together as it was three different different people with three different issues....

A petition thread was run for their reinstatment to the boards.....but as of this time ..Taldren's answer is no...

Frankly.....you shouldnt be worried about turn out.....you should be worried that your pilots who never played SFC2 will get their heads handed to them by Veteran Federation Captains....SFC3 and SFC2 are different battle systems...right now....your fleet should be training....and training hard....

This isnt a slam on your fleet or your skills.....simply a desire to get your fleets best game and see that your pilots dont get disgouraged with a different level of gameplay.....





 





Have no fear, Klingon.  We don't get discouraged.  We get even.



I have to admit to being a bit troubled by the idea that it looks like the KATs and KOTHs, who fly Romulan in SFC3 seem to now be opting for something other than Romulan in DOE.  Who will fly Romulan?  Three or four SPQR guys and a few of us SOS types?  It's already two races (F/G) on one.


Regardless, we'll be there.




 



Ill be there for the roms that you can count on
As for KAT and KOTH on the D2 both fleets are kzin(mirak) Yep we be big old puddy tats:)
On the D3 we in the main play as rom  

atraxerxes

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #34 on: February 27, 2003, 03:21:56 pm »
  I hope to be there, just got too bored with SFC3. Hopefully I can remember Gorn skills and bring back to life Ssith Ill. Maybe find a few old gorn friends  

DH123

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #35 on: February 27, 2003, 10:20:02 pm »
Flying Romulan on Day of the Eagle.   Should be fun.  

Fluf

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #36 on: February 27, 2003, 10:27:04 pm »
The KAT/KOTH Fleets are currently discussing which race we are going to fly.  We will await the numbers and see who needs us.  Since most of us have flown some Rom in D3, we lean that way.  Especially working with our SPQR brothers, (if they existed).  We flew with the SPQR on the Triangle 3 server on OP and dominated.  Would be nice to fly with them again. However as always, we will go where we are needed.

Maxillius

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2003, 12:28:15 am »
Quote:

Hi,

I am just getting started here too.

Whats a T-BOMB ?????  Is that like an AMML mine???  




hehehe... It's just an ordinary mine... that you TRANSPORT up to a range of 5 away

imagine how your day would go if you were at the recieving end of 4 missiles, you weasel (cuz you're already holding 4 and you don't have any more tractors), the klink you're fighting gives you 7 of those little lovelies, and you forget to cut your speed back after the emergency decel wears off.  That's 70 points of reach-out-and-touch-someone  

Hint, all you SOS birds in KR series ships, you have lots of transporters HINT HINT

Sandman

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #38 on: February 28, 2003, 02:35:22 am »
SOS Nero

I'll be in there slinging Plasma, and hoping there are plenty of KR series hulls in the yards.

Rusty as all get out with rommy ships.

I'm one of those die hard Klingons that couldn't be paid in real world cash to fly Fed for other then training fleet mates.

I spent a little time on Gamespy playing your SOS_Natasha.  She really picked my brains after getting whumped about 6 times in a row.  I pointed her to some sites with tactics papers  that I hope most of your fleets SFC-2 newbies will read.  Your going to need it!

there is a great deal more micro management in SFC-2 then you have with SFC-3.  Learn quickly about energy management, and untill you learn about how NOT to get tractored, stay outside of a rage of 3 from your targets or you will regret it.

Some notes on energy management for ya'll

Your typical heavy cruiser sports around 34 to 40 points of power.
each phaser requires 1 point of power for p-1, and 2's.  And .5 power per P-3 (but the power is held in a capacitor.. so once they are done charging the power used to charge them becomes availible in your energy pool again.
shields require 2 points of power.  Life support and fire control each take 1 point of power each.  Movement costs are one point of power per one unit of speed.  Electonic warefare will use up to 6 points of power (learn to use EW.. it will save you hides!).  The primary romulan weapons are Plasma torps which require a great deal of power to charge and to hold ready to fire (though that not as much energy as required to charge them up), and they also take a long time to ready up. 1/2 agin longer time wise then the majority of heavy weapons.  Clock also takes power, and typically about 1/3 of your total power for heavy cruiser class ships.. say 12 points.

Your typical Rom cruiser going to red aleart, cloaking, and charging all weapons isn't even going to have energy to even move for a little bit untill the phaser capacitor charges.  READ your plasma damage charts and see what the range breaks are for damage done.   Typically you don't want to fire plasma at a ship if you want to cause serious damge at more then a range of 10.  Plasma damge decreases the further the plasma travels.

AN example. you following a ship moving at speed 20, at a range of 10. You fire 2 plasma F's that have the following damage attributes.  

range 0-5,20 damage
range 6-10,15 damage
range 11 to 12, 10 damage
range 13-14, 5 damage
range 15, 1 damage

lets say your target is a stock fed CA which can bring 4 Ph-1's to bear directly aft.

at range 10 you fire.  The enemy move 5, your plasma moves around 8 (at a speed of 32) and now will only cause 15 points each if they hit.. Bangers lad, were gonna hurt 'em..  The fed though wily dog that he is, is accelerating..he's now at speed 25...the plasma is now range 3 from the target.

The range opens to the fed, he now moves another 7.25  forward, your plasma moves 9 forward and disapates into nothingness befor they hit because the plasma has exceeded it maximum range of 15.  You just wasted 2 Plasma F shots, the Fed makes a High Energy Turn (HET) und unloads 4 photons and 6 Ph-1 into your forward shield... Unless you have some other plasma launchers, or the 2 plasma's were psudo (fake) plasma your in a serious world of hurt!.
Notice he never fired his rear firing Ph-1's at the plasma.. he didn't need to because he knew he could out run the plasma even though he wasn't at full speed! (phaser fire on plasma reduces the final damage by 1 point for every 2 points of phaser damage the plasma takes).  Learning time and distance and the concept of TOT (time on Target) is going to be of critical importance to using plasma correctly.  You'll have to learn to fly defensivly untill your target of choce eases it's self into your high damage brackets for your plasma.  Remeber to snipe with your quite nice Phaser-1 suites of which late era Romulan ships and the Klingon to rom conversion ships have a great many of with excellent firing arks.  If your in tight and nasty and needing a little extra power consider charging you plasma to a smaller torp size.  Of even using the defensive setting initially.  (1 plasma S launcher in defensive mode will pop 3 plasma F's out..but it does take more energy to arm them this way.  typical Rom heavy mounts 2 Pl-F, and 2 Pl-S.. plasm F take less energy to arm..if you downmark the plasma S's to F you;ll free up about 6 points of much needed energy when your at typical knife fighting range..(under range 10)  you give up the heavier Pl-S punch for energy and slightly faster arming Pl-F warheads.  Note Plasma F launcher have ) energy as a torp holding cost but Plasma S;s down grudged to F;s do require just under 2 points per launcher to hold.. So dont hold 'em!

You SOS folk couldn't have picked a harder race to learn with!  

If many of you bought the "discount" jewel case version of SFC-2 like I suspect you did, the game manual is in PDF format of the game disk, along with a very handy card that lists the games hot keys and has a set of weapons damage tables.. Read everything you can in the manual about EW, and tactics.  It'll help you all a great deal.

Good luck to you all, and see you in the D2!

Khemaraa Iron Hand
Klingon Black Fleet
69th special operations fleet the "Black Mist"
Proud Member of the Taldren Outer Beta test circle since 2000.
 


 

Marcus Smythe

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #39 on: February 28, 2003, 05:12:27 am »
If anyone wants to learn  the anchient, dark art of flying Hydran..

Just ask Myself, Max Power, Hobbes, or any of the old-school Hydran players.  Wed be glad to show you the ropes of the most complex, but most rewarding, race in the game.
 

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #40 on: February 28, 2003, 09:20:55 am »
Quote:

 Wed be glad to show you the ropes of the most complex, but most rewarding, race in the game.
   




Since when did you learn to fly Gorn?

KBF-Dogmatix

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #41 on: February 28, 2003, 09:42:35 am »
Geez...I go away for a few days and theres a whole new fleet (SOS) stirring things up.  Always nice to see some fresh meat enter the fray.  


I'll echo my esteemed comrades and say that I suspect most Klingons (my KBF fleetmates especially) will be fly flying Romulan for DOE.  It should be fun.  I've actually flown a fair amount of Romulan in D2 campaigns, but I'm a bit rusty with them (not playing much SFC2 lately, have played SFC3 quite a bit).


My guess is that the Romulan team will be behind the eight-ball in terms of numbers since I expect all Feds and Gorns to remain on that side, the Hydrans to mostly fly Fed and it looks like players from several other races wanna fly Gorn and Fed too.  


I'm looking forward to a new D2 campaign, though.  For some reason, the "fun servers" just don't seem to be as fun as they were back in the day.



 

Bob Graham

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #42 on: February 28, 2003, 10:23:50 am »
Hmmm, who wants to train the Fed into a Rom?  I deny that I dont know much about plasma.

RSTFBobG, Commanding RIS Freds ridin Cheese

Julin Eurthyr

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #43 on: February 28, 2003, 03:19:46 pm »
Once again, I shalt practice the arts of denial.

Or is it another case of ambassadorial service?

Either way, I'll be hitting the WB+, her speed will remind me of the speed an CCZ moves while charging everything...  Same turn rate, too...

And, of course, I deny I shalt fly Romulan on this campaign...

Iaidoka

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #44 on: February 28, 2003, 03:26:57 pm »
I'll be playing Bruce.  Big suprise.

BTW to all the new Bruces, keep a lookout for the invitation to the Bruce Forum.  Your participation in this forum will be key to our success.  I'll begin work on opening move suggestions as soon as the map and VCs are released.  Stay tuned.  More info as it becomes available.

J'inn

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #45 on: February 28, 2003, 03:30:46 pm »
"suggestions"?

How wonderfully coy.

snicker

Iaidoka

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #46 on: February 28, 2003, 04:02:12 pm »
Shuuusshhh.  Of course they are suggestions.  I'm not in charge remember. For some reason, they just won't let me run the show  Could be the maniacal laughter over RW.  


Oh and that reminds me.  Everyone flying bruce needs to get Roger Wilco and install it.  Probably a good idea to get MyTuner as well.

We Bruce live and die by such things.  Mostly we live by them

Lyrkiller

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2003, 01:33:00 pm »
i hereby announce that i Capt. Lyrkiller of the MSC Maus will here by declare that i will attempt to fly for the Rommies in DoE. and since i normally dont fly Rommie God have mercy on us all.

SOS_Elphinstone

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2003, 03:40:58 pm »
I will be there, flying with the fleet in service to the Empire!

I have to....Cleo told me so......must obey Cleo........she said so.......;)  

DH123

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2003, 04:38:30 pm »
Quote:

"suggestions"?

How wonderfully coy.

snicker  




Will you be J'inn the "Pointy Eared Bastard" on DOE?  

J'inn

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #50 on: March 01, 2003, 05:12:05 pm »
It is unlikely I will be playing much if at all in any capacity.


KAT/KOTH is leaning Rom  

LongTooth

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2003, 05:24:41 pm »
Just to make sure every one knows that roms have drone launchers

Kieran Forester

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2003, 07:05:13 pm »
I've come to a decision to commit to flying Bruce on DOE.

Iaidoka

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2003, 12:17:46 am »
 
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 KAT/KOTH is leaning Rom  




So what you're saying is that the GDA will have to save the Federation from the combined forces of the KBF, SPQR, KAT/KOTH, and SOS fleets?

You guys sure know how to make my life interesting.  I'll try to keep us from getting completely steam rollered.

davey

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #54 on: March 02, 2003, 11:16:20 am »
Count me in.

GDA-Doc
Order of the Golden Gorn
Keeper of the Single Malt
Master of the GCS BenDover  

DH123

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #55 on: March 02, 2003, 02:31:51 pm »
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Quote:

 KAT/KOTH is leaning Rom  




So what you're saying is that the GDA will have to save the Federation from the combined forces of the KBF, SPQR, KAT/KOTH, and SOS fleets?

You guys sure know how to make my life interesting.  I'll try to keep us from getting completely steam rollered.  




And you wonder why the Federation NEVER wants to be allied with the Gorn again . . .  

How do you fit that inflated head of yours through the door?    
« Last Edit: March 02, 2003, 02:47:47 pm by DH123 »

IndyShark

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #56 on: March 02, 2003, 02:53:06 pm »
I will be flying with KDS! All Hail the might of the Klingon Empire!

And give me a C7K!

KOTH-Steel Claw

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #57 on: March 02, 2003, 03:11:48 pm »
 
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KAT/KOTH is leaning Rom


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So what you're saying is that the GDA will have to save the Federation from the combined forces of the KBF, SPQR, KAT/KOTH, and SOS fleets?

You guys sure know how to make my life interesting. I'll try to keep us from getting completely steam rollered.  




You just wait Iadoka. When I see you I am going to pounce upon you with a load of Type 4's........... er ah, ok, I will just cloak and run.  

Iaidoka

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #58 on: March 02, 2003, 07:49:54 pm »
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And you wonder why the Federation NEVER wants to be allied with the Gorn again . . .  

How do you fit that inflated head of yours through the door?  





Do you really wanna be our enemies?  

As for my head,  I have a spatial distorter attached to my uniform which causes bulkheads and doors widen as needed. :P

<RP OFF>

Actually I'm kinda looking forward to flying with the flat heads again.  Might even stop using my Great Federation Turkey Shoot medal on the SFC2.net forums.
« Last Edit: March 02, 2003, 07:50:31 pm by Iaidoka »

WillWeasel

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #59 on: March 02, 2003, 08:26:12 pm »
Ehh One small fury rodent reporting to Rom Command.

Must reinstall SFC2 again...... must get bigger hard drive



Who ever told me about HOI On off topic must pay for all my wasted time not training on SFC2.net 7.35.......  

J'inn

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Re: How many people will play DOE?
« Reply #60 on: March 02, 2003, 08:28:18 pm »
Quote:

Ehh One small fury rodent reporting to Rom Command.
   





Cool the Roms need more lawyers.   I'm no longer alone.