Topic: Strategy and Tactics (Read 7533 times)

IrishKlingon · « **on:** March 24, 2004, 08:39:34 am »

Hey all,

While you are all veterans at this, Im scrounging the back of my brain to try and remember all of my SFB tactics from back in 89 and 90. The interveining 14 years have not been kind to my memory.

I normally play either Klingon or Romulan, because i like the cultures. However I do remember now some of my frustration with SFB. Now I know my Klingon fire arcs, and I know to keep in the 15-9 range. (question. Is 15.01-15.99 still considered 15 in SFC for ranges?). I know the strengths of my disruptors and how they fire twice as often as photons. I spend a lot of time running out in the 15 range, and doing the lazy "s" of the Saberdance. Both with Klingon and Romulan. I never lay up on fire, tring to have a voley every few seconds of something, in order to keep the enemy shields from regenerating. I use my ECM to try and get a shift, as long as I can keep my movement around 24.

It gets frustrating however, if you make *one* tactical error, and close at the wrong time, you get beaten down to the point of near non recovery.

So by picking these races I have allways felt as the "chased" not the "chaser", and often or not, more like the victim not the agressor. I know Im doing something right by having my opponent say "just CLOSE allready".

My quesion is, perhaps there is a different race I can try that is mostly agressive just to get the feel of it. I hate walking away from my honor filled Klingons, but I might want to try a different helm, just to shake things up a bit.

Irish Klingon.

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 24, 2004, 08:44:48 am »

15.99 is just like 15.00

Try Lyran; very much like Klingon but with an up close and personal set of claws.

762 · « **Reply #2 on:** March 24, 2004, 09:55:34 am »

Lyran and Hydran both are nasty up close. Both are difficult to learn but worth the effort.

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 24, 2004, 10:39:59 am »

Quote:

Lyran and Hydran both are nasty up close. Both are difficult to learn but worth the effort.

Yes, but I'm sure he'll want to stay on the good guys side.

762 · « **Reply #4 on:** March 24, 2004, 01:30:06 pm »

That's Freekin Good Guys.

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2004, 01:39:37 pm »

Well if I can get in on this next campaign, I will commit to be either a Klingon, or one of their allies (like the Lyrans). I cant seem to pull myself out of the "All Federation Scum must die" mode. It comes from years of having "Federation Only" opponents in SFB. I just cant bring myself to pilot a federation ship. If I ever get really sad for a photon / phaser loadout, at least there is a Klingon varraint that has it.

IrishKlingon

Age · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2004, 01:46:08 pm »

Well as the saying goes if you can not beat them join them

The Federation will prevail and there is no life like it.

Age · « **Reply #8 on:** March 24, 2004, 05:51:33 pm »

HOO ,watch it there Jimmi or when I turn into Koras I will use my supership agianst you or whatever Klink ship I get I know one that gets me the best PP that is K-D6DB how do like oh that hurts. When I get my own server .I wil now hve to seach for what P'Tak .I just wish the Ster Trek culb were are in my area .There was a KLingon Diplomantic Corps in my home town.

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 24, 2004, 08:41:03 pm »

....unfortunate...

KBF-HangNail · « **Reply #10 on:** March 24, 2004, 08:52:23 pm »

We in the KBF always Welcome NEw Warriors. But u must pass the Painstick test first.

Age · « **Reply #12 on:** March 25, 2004, 02:09:36 am »

I have alreadt been there and it was Glorious after that I needed lots of blood wine to sueth the pian.

Age · « **Reply #14 on:** March 25, 2004, 11:50:55 am »

The Federation will always prevail ,Whoo that must of hurt.Scotty and O Brian were never Klingons aswell Crusher .I don't Think you would be able to handle the blood wine.

ganymad · « **Reply #16 on:** March 27, 2004, 05:41:22 am »

there is nothing comparable to a good volley of overleaded disrupters and heavy photons.
i dont think the saberdance is very usefull in sfc unless ure 1vs1 and u got a lot of time.for my personal expirience overlaoded disrupters and some transporter action to cripple the enemies rear weapons can be much more effective.all u got to do is to glue yourself to the rear shield of the enemy , distance 8-5,tractor on repel if u play agains gorn or romulans,keep your ecm up and if u can u should divert some power to your front shielding .for the case the opponent does a het u could prepare a suicide shuttle.for the case ure 1 vs one and u need to do some repairs or your photons need energy to reload u can drop a wild weasel and putting your ecm panel to maximum. i want to see a photons thats hits a ship with 12 ecm even if your speed is zero. works good if your enemy is much faster and quite close (6 or closer).btw that works against photonloaded feds or other klinks - its is a bad idea against lyran,mirak,romulans and gorn-they will beam mines onto your position and than theyll just wait till your wild weasel is gone.
normal disruptors work fine when u have some support. weaken the shields of the lightest opponent and finish him of up close , run and reload and than deal with the bigger ones. a team mate could play the punching ball while u kill the frigates or destroyers and than u simply gangbang the last enemy standing.
these things worked well on my last sfc lan party.i mostly play feds and klinks, sometimes hydran - i dont have much luck with lyrans. my favorite opponents are mirak, feds and lyrans.i love those to blow up.
ive never played sfb so i cant tell if it works there (i suppose it doesnt).

just my two cents

greatings,

ed

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #18 on:** March 28, 2004, 08:59:06 am »

The Black Fleet is not a mortal fleet to join, but rather they great spirit fleet that lies beyond the "All seeing stars". Though you are right about fighting valorious battles. Given any ship, from a E7 to a C7 to a B10, I will fight in a way to make my ancestors proud. Then, in death, perhaps I wll be given a place within the great Black Fleet.

If you have a mortal fleet that carries the same name, I would find this near blasphemous!

Irish Klingon.

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #20 on:** March 28, 2004, 09:44:33 am »

Hmmm.. well that does seem to be the name of your guild! Unforunate indeed! I guess thats an extra pain stick in there.*grin*.

Just out of curiousity, I do know that in Startrek History the Black fleet was the Klingon's idea of the afterlife. This was origonaly created through an Old Series book, The Final Reflection by John Ford. When a Klingon dies an honourable death, they are believed to go on to serve in the Black Fleet, where they fight a continous battle against their most worthy foes. So thats where my Blashemous comment came from. Im not sure there was ever a REAL Klingon fleet called the black fleet in any of the Old Series movies, books, or TV show? Im not expert on Klingon History or culture. I cant find anything about it in the few Klingon books I dregged out of the attic.

Irish Klingon

{edit)
One thing I did find out about on www.klingon.org is this.

Klingon Tea Ceremony
This is a ceremony to test one's bravery. In this ritual, two friends share poisoned tea served on a tray decorated with simple flowers. This ceremony gives the friends a chance to share each other's mortality and to remind them that death is an experience best shared - like the tea.

And I thought the pain stick was bad!

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #21 on:** March 28, 2004, 09:49:24 am »

Oh, and Age Im confused.

In one reply ot this post, you say your on this Klingon Guild council. On the second hand you said "Well as the saying goes if you can not beat them join them. The Federation will prevail and there is no life like it. "

What am I missing here?

Irish Klingon.

Crimmy · « **Reply #26 on:** March 28, 2004, 07:33:15 pm »

Klingon Black Fleet...KBF....

AKA the home fleet in Federation and Empire

Age is not afilliated with Klingon Black Fleet...

Thus all the KBF sigs....oh and Irish....your schedual is about par for most of our fleet.....we are elite because of the way we fight....not they way we act...

If you need a hand getting back up to speed on what servers are active what files you need...etc...just ask....

Age · « **Reply #27 on:** March 29, 2004, 02:04:02 am »

I am too I am Koras and he has to learn it through the Honourable way Like I told him to enough said now go on Patrol
Now Crimmy.

Aoav160 · « **Reply #30 on:** March 29, 2004, 08:18:31 pm »

Better dead then Fed. Shoot me an email, I may still have some old SFC tactic sheet laying around.

red_green · « **Reply #33 on:** March 30, 2004, 06:34:16 pm »

30 posts in a stratgey thread. Look its real simple. Close and hose.

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #34 on:** March 24, 2004, 08:39:34 am »

Hey all,

While you are all veterans at this, Im scrounging the back of my brain to try and remember all of my SFB tactics from back in 89 and 90. The interveining 14 years have not been kind to my memory.

I normally play either Klingon or Romulan, because i like the cultures. However I do remember now some of my frustration with SFB. Now I know my Klingon fire arcs, and I know to keep in the 15-9 range. (question. Is 15.01-15.99 still considered 15 in SFC for ranges?). I know the strengths of my disruptors and how they fire twice as often as photons. I spend a lot of time running out in the 15 range, and doing the lazy "s" of the Saberdance. Both with Klingon and Romulan. I never lay up on fire, tring to have a voley every few seconds of something, in order to keep the enemy shields from regenerating. I use my ECM to try and get a shift, as long as I can keep my movement around 24.

It gets frustrating however, if you make *one* tactical error, and close at the wrong time, you get beaten down to the point of near non recovery.

So by picking these races I have allways felt as the "chased" not the "chaser", and often or not, more like the victim not the agressor. I know Im doing something right by having my opponent say "just CLOSE allready".

My quesion is, perhaps there is a different race I can try that is mostly agressive just to get the feel of it. I hate walking away from my honor filled Klingons, but I might want to try a different helm, just to shake things up a bit.

Irish Klingon.

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #35 on:** March 24, 2004, 08:44:48 am »

15.99 is just like 15.00

Try Lyran; very much like Klingon but with an up close and personal set of claws.

762 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 24, 2004, 09:55:34 am »

Lyran and Hydran both are nasty up close. Both are difficult to learn but worth the effort.

762 · « **Reply #38 on:** March 24, 2004, 01:30:06 pm »

That's Freekin Good Guys.

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #39 on:** March 24, 2004, 01:39:37 pm »

Well if I can get in on this next campaign, I will commit to be either a Klingon, or one of their allies (like the Lyrans). I cant seem to pull myself out of the "All Federation Scum must die" mode. It comes from years of having "Federation Only" opponents in SFB. I just cant bring myself to pilot a federation ship. If I ever get really sad for a photon / phaser loadout, at least there is a Klingon varraint that has it.

IrishKlingon

Age · « **Reply #40 on:** March 24, 2004, 01:46:08 pm »

Well as the saying goes if you can not beat them join them

The Federation will prevail and there is no life like it.

Age · « **Reply #42 on:** March 24, 2004, 05:51:33 pm »

HOO ,watch it there Jimmi or when I turn into Koras I will use my supership agianst you or whatever Klink ship I get I know one that gets me the best PP that is K-D6DB how do like oh that hurts. When I get my own server .I wil now hve to seach for what P'Tak .I just wish the Ster Trek culb were are in my area .There was a KLingon Diplomantic Corps in my home town.

jimmi7769 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 24, 2004, 08:41:03 pm »

....unfortunate...

KBF-HangNail · « **Reply #44 on:** March 24, 2004, 08:52:23 pm »

We in the KBF always Welcome NEw Warriors. But u must pass the Painstick test first.

Age · « **Reply #46 on:** March 25, 2004, 02:09:36 am »

I have alreadt been there and it was Glorious after that I needed lots of blood wine to sueth the pian.

Age · « **Reply #48 on:** March 25, 2004, 11:50:55 am »

The Federation will always prevail ,Whoo that must of hurt.Scotty and O Brian were never Klingons aswell Crusher .I don't Think you would be able to handle the blood wine.

ganymad · « **Reply #50 on:** March 27, 2004, 05:41:22 am »

there is nothing comparable to a good volley of overleaded disrupters and heavy photons.
i dont think the saberdance is very usefull in sfc unless ure 1vs1 and u got a lot of time.for my personal expirience overlaoded disrupters and some transporter action to cripple the enemies rear weapons can be much more effective.all u got to do is to glue yourself to the rear shield of the enemy , distance 8-5,tractor on repel if u play agains gorn or romulans,keep your ecm up and if u can u should divert some power to your front shielding .for the case the opponent does a het u could prepare a suicide shuttle.for the case ure 1 vs one and u need to do some repairs or your photons need energy to reload u can drop a wild weasel and putting your ecm panel to maximum. i want to see a photons thats hits a ship with 12 ecm even if your speed is zero. works good if your enemy is much faster and quite close (6 or closer).btw that works against photonloaded feds or other klinks - its is a bad idea against lyran,mirak,romulans and gorn-they will beam mines onto your position and than theyll just wait till your wild weasel is gone.
normal disruptors work fine when u have some support. weaken the shields of the lightest opponent and finish him of up close , run and reload and than deal with the bigger ones. a team mate could play the punching ball while u kill the frigates or destroyers and than u simply gangbang the last enemy standing.
these things worked well on my last sfc lan party.i mostly play feds and klinks, sometimes hydran - i dont have much luck with lyrans. my favorite opponents are mirak, feds and lyrans.i love those to blow up.
ive never played sfb so i cant tell if it works there (i suppose it doesnt).

just my two cents

greatings,

ed

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #52 on:** March 28, 2004, 08:59:06 am »

The Black Fleet is not a mortal fleet to join, but rather they great spirit fleet that lies beyond the "All seeing stars". Though you are right about fighting valorious battles. Given any ship, from a E7 to a C7 to a B10, I will fight in a way to make my ancestors proud. Then, in death, perhaps I wll be given a place within the great Black Fleet.

If you have a mortal fleet that carries the same name, I would find this near blasphemous!

Irish Klingon.

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #54 on:** March 28, 2004, 09:44:33 am »

Hmmm.. well that does seem to be the name of your guild! Unforunate indeed! I guess thats an extra pain stick in there.*grin*.

Just out of curiousity, I do know that in Startrek History the Black fleet was the Klingon's idea of the afterlife. This was origonaly created through an Old Series book, The Final Reflection by John Ford. When a Klingon dies an honourable death, they are believed to go on to serve in the Black Fleet, where they fight a continous battle against their most worthy foes. So thats where my Blashemous comment came from. Im not sure there was ever a REAL Klingon fleet called the black fleet in any of the Old Series movies, books, or TV show? Im not expert on Klingon History or culture. I cant find anything about it in the few Klingon books I dregged out of the attic.

Irish Klingon

{edit)
One thing I did find out about on www.klingon.org is this.

Klingon Tea Ceremony
This is a ceremony to test one's bravery. In this ritual, two friends share poisoned tea served on a tray decorated with simple flowers. This ceremony gives the friends a chance to share each other's mortality and to remind them that death is an experience best shared - like the tea.

And I thought the pain stick was bad!

IrishKlingon · « **Reply #55 on:** March 28, 2004, 09:49:24 am »

Oh, and Age Im confused.

In one reply ot this post, you say your on this Klingon Guild council. On the second hand you said "Well as the saying goes if you can not beat them join them. The Federation will prevail and there is no life like it. "

What am I missing here?

Irish Klingon.

Crimmy · « **Reply #60 on:** March 28, 2004, 07:33:15 pm »

Klingon Black Fleet...KBF....

AKA the home fleet in Federation and Empire

Age is not afilliated with Klingon Black Fleet...

Thus all the KBF sigs....oh and Irish....your schedual is about par for most of our fleet.....we are elite because of the way we fight....not they way we act...

If you need a hand getting back up to speed on what servers are active what files you need...etc...just ask....

Age · « **Reply #61 on:** March 29, 2004, 02:04:02 am »

I am too I am Koras and he has to learn it through the Honourable way Like I told him to enough said now go on Patrol
Now Crimmy.

Aoav160 · « **Reply #64 on:** March 29, 2004, 08:18:31 pm »

Better dead then Fed. Shoot me an email, I may still have some old SFC tactic sheet laying around.

red_green · « **Reply #67 on:** March 30, 2004, 06:34:16 pm »

30 posts in a stratgey thread. Look its real simple. Close and hose.

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