Topic: Tholian Web Spinner released!

[Atrahasis]

Download SFC 2 version

I decided to alter my SS Aurora and turn it into the Tholian ship. Now if someone could track down the original SFB specs for this ship....I might go on and do some more of the Tholian fleet.  

[Rhaz]

That looks *so* sweet!  I really like the metalic look of the ship


D/L'ing now.

Thanks!

[MarianoDT]

Nice ship  

Thank you

Mariano
 

[Kaenyne]

That's just too cool!

[Khalee]

If your talking about the aurora No idea as it never made it into SFB officialy. So Id give it maybe Police ship type weapons and power.

If you mean the original PC then all it had was 4 PH 1 fireing foward, and a single web caster. The disrupter version added 1 disrupter to it. The photon version added 1 photon to it.

Thats from memory without diging out all that stuff and looking at the stats.

[ganymad]

maybe u want to put this into your texture folder:

tholian webcaster texture:

http://forums.eliteforce.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=111306

i dont know about sfb but in klingon academy they used webcastercannons ,weak phasers and disruptors.

thats a nice ship atra. id love to see more tholians.there are some cool models out there but most of them have week textures.breezegone has alot of good stuff but everything is tos. dont get me wrong - i love tos but im currently working on a tos->tmp mod so im in need of some tmp versions:)

i dont know about sfb but in klingon academy they used webcastercannons ,weak phasers and disruptors.



btw: i know there are more than enough fed ships around but is there any chance for a tos federation class dn made from your conny/bon homme richard parts?



greatings,


ed

[Chrystoff]

I'm not much of a Tholian fan, but since their re-emergence on "Enterprise" I have actually started to like them. Great ship!  

[Atrahasis]

That's a very cool weapons texture......did you make it yourself? I'd like to give credit where credit is due.

Khalee and others, thanks for the stats info about the Tholian ship......by any chance does anyone have access to the original SFB SSD info?

[E_Look]

Atra, I don't know if it's a temporary server issue or it's just me (twice on two different models, now!), but your image won't show up and the clicking the link just gives me the busy hourglass cursor.

Still, I trust that it is one nice model.

[Dizzy]

I have a lot of tholian ship specs. I even did a tholian mod on the slave girls3 server. U want the shiplist? You can ck out all the specs in shipedit.

I used brezgonnes models, which I didnt like, but there wernt too many more out there.

Right now, there is another server in the pipe that will use thols and there are scripts that make use of the tholian web device. So its workable in sfc. Id love to see an entire thol fleet be done.

Is there anything I can help with if you do these models?

[ModelsPlease]

Very cool,am D/L'ing now !!!
 
-MP  

[ganymad]

yes that weapon texture was made by me.i created it for my mod wich will include tholians.:)  

[Atrahasis]

I detect a revived interest in Tholians all around......LOL

I would like to know just the specs for the Web Spinner ship if anyone has them, if they could post or point me in the right direction....

As for more Tholian ships, we can use this thread to discuss the nature of the Tholians, because I believe they merit a lot of discussion, and helping to know their nature will definitely help me make decisions when detailing the ships.

My beliefs re the Tholians:

I believe for the pre-TOS and the TOS eras, their ship hulls are basically a kind of metal, not a crystal. It's some kind of dark steel plating in the pre-TOS-era, and some kind of polished titanium-steel (a more refined look) for the TOS ships. The pre-TOS-ship that we saw in that episode of "Enterprise" had blue glowey side panels that had cross-hatched meshing over it, which is what I decided my TOS Tholians should have at those large triangular spaces on the sides of the hull.

The pre-TOS-design, in addition to this, had yellow glowey engine thrusters at the back too, taking up quite a bit of space. I felt I couldn't get away with putting anything like that on the TOS design because it's much too obvious and if I included that detail i would have been breaking away from canon, which I didn't want to do.

In Klingon Academy, Tholian ships were "interepreted" to have more crystalline-like hulls, which I feel is a much more interesting look.

I think if you want to hold on to canon, the Tholian ships had to have metallic hulls early on, but maybe later in the TMP-era they developed technology to make their hulls more than metal, but something more akin to crystalline.

Any further thoughts on the nature of Tholians and their ships are welcome....  

[Atrahasis]

Also, criticizing my interepretation of the Tholians is welcome too, if you don't like something or see some way to make them better I'd like to hear it.  

[ganymad]

some information and specs about that ship can be found here:

http://planetside.firenebula.com/ships/startrek/tholian/tholian%20barrier%20patrol%20corvette.pdf

and here:

http://planetside.firenebula.com/startrek/ships.php?name=tholian%20barrier%20patrol%20corvette

i hope that helps

well atra, i dont think there is much to criticize about your web spinner.id love to play around with the textures a bit, making a tmp version of it.
for other tholian ships it would be cool to have that yellow impulse glow on them. i remeber the tholian dn in ka. it was a big ship with a freakin cool design. id love to see a remake of it as well as a tos version. that ship had a very small impulse engine in the mittle of the lower pylon/arm/whatever thing.it just looked right.
from what ive heard and read the (neo?-)tholian nca was a popular sfb design. i cant say i loverly like its design but it definitly looks more like tos ship than the ships in ka.maybe thats something to go on with.
just my 2cents.

keep them coming



greatings,




ed

[Klingon Fanatic]

Atra,

Its great to read about you posting WIP for models again, but I got to ask, "Any chance you'll update the Klingon Gorkon carrier in light of all the flipping SFB based FCVs coming out?" I ca't get it to be retextured a la your L24C textures... PRETTY PLEASE! I Love it but I just can't get it the more realistic textures I'm looking for...



Besides, this is kind of related anyway as the SFB Klingons had their Tholian Border Harassment squadron and will be in need of a carrier to beat on all these new Tholian ships.

Ganymad, check Dark Matrix's site for the unfinished Taldren Galaxies at War project Tholians (DN, CA, CL, FA, FTR, SB)and SFU for the entire run of DM's Klingon Academy Tholian conversions. The KA Tholian conversions are MUCH higher poly versions at SFU.

There are also a bunch of KA style retextures I did of Hollis J. Wood's TNG Tholians there as well (FTR, Shuttle, SB CX).

KF

[Atrahasis]

You mean all you want is a GREEN one?

[ModelsPlease]

Wow where can I get that Klingon Carrier?  

[Rogue]

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You mean all you want is a GREEN one?  

Ehem...      . Sorry, just struck me as funny. I like it.  

[Marauth]

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You mean all you want is a GREEN one?  

It's kinda like yank money actually, all pale green and tan

LOL

I rather like your take on the Tholian history, do you think the crystalline ships could be derived from plans the 312th Neo-Tholian squadron brought with them. You gotta think they must have been doing some research in experimental tech back in the home galaxy to try and overcome the Seltorians. Once they knew they were done for they upped and left and nicked the research so those bloody cockroaches couldn't get their slimey Klink-loving claws on it