Topic: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch  (Read 6654 times)

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TarMinyatur

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2003, 12:55:39 am »
Here's a Damage Calculator for SFC3 based on the yanked beta. I will likely not update this java applet. If anyone wants the source code to continue working on it, email me.  

Darktide

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #21 on: February 28, 2003, 07:40:35 am »
Has anyone else noted that weapons dont seem to multi volley in v1.2? Or is it just me? Ive not seen it mentioned anywhere at all.  

kevlar

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #22 on: February 28, 2003, 09:00:53 am »
Haven't been able to multi volley yet despite also.

Alidar Jarok

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Multi Volleys
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2003, 10:58:03 am »
I beleive the chances of getting multi volleys have been reduced

[RS]Cincinnatus

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #24 on: February 28, 2003, 12:57:46 pm »
 
Quote:

 Heres the old charts... not updated with the above info, but everything Tar Minyatur, myself, and others were able to 'figure out'. Not as good as offical information on all weapons would be, but it should give you some grounds for comparison.  




Regression analysis is a pretty reliable method, especially considering how many samples these guys took. It must have driven them crazy starting 1450 different skirmish matches just to fire a weapon once, and reconfiguring your weapons officer *each time*. ugh.

The charts are messy because they're non-coded I guess, but the data looks like it should be very reliable. In any case, Tar and Marcus are like us humans: we can never determine the REAL truth. These numbers are just abstractions based on experiments that we can both recognize and manipulate, but if we haven't been considering some variable then the data may be significantly wrong. Wouldn't it be nice if the proverbial God of this situation answered all our questions by giving us the definite answers?    

Blitzkrieg

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2003, 01:02:59 pm »
I would like to see a full weapon chart similare to the above  

jualdeaux

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2003, 01:44:50 pm »
I"m sure they will put out the rest when they get the chance.

David Ferrell

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Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2003, 12:41:35 pm »
This data has been superseded.
 
Thanks,

Dave  
« Last Edit: February 28, 2003, 06:56:11 pm by David Ferrell »

Robb Stark

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2003, 01:24:05 pm »
It's positively corking to see those numbers posted, Dave.  Is there
some place where the hit charts for the other weapons are accessible?
Perhaps I missed it somewhere.  

RogueJedi_XC

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2003, 02:12:56 pm »
I love you, man...    

Uss_Defiant

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #30 on: February 25, 2003, 02:46:17 pm »
fogive my nievete...
but does this mean that av no longer applies?

Sorry if this is a stupid post, but i didnt get a chance to install the beta patch yet.  

Mantis

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #31 on: February 25, 2003, 03:03:21 pm »
  Thank you Mr Ferrell!!!

I would think that AV still applies, so that the "To Hit:" is actually the unmodified Base To Hit percentage.
 

Karnak

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2003, 03:40:08 pm »
Quote:

It's positively corking to see those numbers posted, Dave.  Is there
some place where the hit charts for the other weapons are accessible?
Perhaps I missed it somewhere.  




I think the big difference between SFC2 and SFC3 documentation is something little but makes a big difference:

A weapons chart reference card detailing ranges and hit ratios by weapons just like the SFC2 reference card.

If Taldren could write up a pdf file as the SFC3 reference card it would go a long ways to making the game more enjoyable.

David Ferrell

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #33 on: February 25, 2003, 03:55:44 pm »
Quote:

  Thank you Mr Ferrell!!!

I would think that AV still applies, so that the "To Hit:" is actually the unmodified Base To Hit percentage.
   




Yes AV still applies.  These are the numbers before *any* modifier is applied (officer skill, target
size, angular velocity).

Thanks,

Dave  

SSCF Hooch

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #34 on: February 25, 2003, 04:07:41 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

  Thank you Mr Ferrell!!!

I would think that AV still applies, so that the "To Hit:" is actually the unmodified Base To Hit percentage.
   




Yes AV still applies.  These are the numbers before *any* modifier is applied (officer skill, target
size, angular velocity).

Thanks,

Dave  




Is there a weapons chart that we could have to study? I am weird that way, I like to know "his" ranges more than I want to know mine.

Thanks
Hooch

RazalYllib

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #35 on: February 25, 2003, 05:41:42 pm »
Uh David,
Could you please post the other weapon data.

TheBigCheese

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #36 on: February 25, 2003, 05:42:32 pm »
Gotta love those Plasma H's  

Rhaz

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #37 on: February 25, 2003, 06:15:23 pm »
Thanks!!

Alidar Jarok

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #38 on: February 25, 2003, 07:45:32 pm »
Quote:

Gotta love those Plasma H's  




Couldn't agree more.

Now that I know firing from 1-8 will mean I will stop firing at 2.

I think this is a big help.  

siskogeek

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Re: Weapons Charts for the Beta patch
« Reply #39 on: February 25, 2003, 09:26:22 pm »
As an old SFBer, I would like to add my name to the list requesting weapons data.  Half of the fun of SFB is creating tactics to exploit weakness in your opponents weapon's chart.

Yes, I know I am geek.  Note the User Name.