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IKV Nemesis D7L

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Canada's place in the Sun?
« on: March 15, 2004, 06:10:24 pm »
A possible 11th province

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Currently a British overseas territory, the Turks and Caicos (actually a grouping of 40 islands located 250 kilometres east of Cuba) have a history of being on the wish lists of Canadian politicians.


 

Sirgod

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2004, 06:18:31 pm »
That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2004, 06:41:14 pm »
Quote:

That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen  




It is not exactly front page news at this time.  Most people say "wheres that?" when the islands are mentioned.   Which explains the map in the story.  I myself had never heard of them until it began to be mentioned a month or so back.

The people I have talked to like the idea of a Canadian location that our "snowbirds" can go to when they fly south for the winter, rather than Florida.  Of course Florida might experience some financial fallout if this goes through.  The Snowbirds have limitations on how long they can stay in Florida due to residencey issues with both countries.  Some are also becoming concerned with the treatment of Canadians (the deportation issue discussed a while back as well as the homelands security act).  Being able to avoid the winter weather and stay in Canada is quite attractive to that set.  If it goes through I would expect the averagae age in the islands to rise fairly quickly as retirees move down there.

The Conservative party has at least been flirting with the idea of making this an election issue (election date not yet set as the ruling Liberals try to handle some scandals).   Beyond that it is mostly fairly low key.    

NJAntman

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2004, 06:41:53 pm »
Are they going to ask the Brits nicely to hand it over or would this be somekind of purchase?  

Sirgod

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2004, 06:47:25 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen  




It is not exactly front page news at this time.  Most people say "wheres that?" when the islands are mentioned.   Which explains the map in the story.  I myself had never heard of them until it began to be mentioned a month or so back.

The people I have talked to like the idea of a Canadian location that our "snowbirds" can go to when they fly south for the winter, rather than Florida.  Of course Florida might experience some financial fallout if this goes through.  The Snowbirds have limitations on how long they can stay in Florida due to residencey issues with both countries.  Some are also becoming concerned with the treatment of Canadians (the deportation issue discussed a while back as well as the homelands security act).  Being able to avoid the winter weather and stay in Canada is quite attractive to that set.  If it goes through I would expect the averagae age in the islands to rise fairly quickly as retirees move down there.

The Conservative party has at least been flirting with the idea of making this an election issue (election date not yet set as the ruling Liberals try to handle some scandals).   Beyond that it is mostly fairly low key.    




Personaly, I would Be all for Expanding Canada. heck It would help there Economy, based on It's location, and although the US dollar is low, I used to know Quite a few truck Drivers, that had a ploy to make money on exchange rates at the Border, when I was 13 years old. A few years back BTW.

Seriously, Let you guys have your days in the sun.

Stephen

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2004, 10:27:04 pm »
Quote:

Are they going to ask the Brits nicely to hand it over or would this be somekind of purchase?  




England learned a long time ago (when 13 colonies had rebelled ) that when a colony wants independence it is better for all concerned to allow it, slowly and gradually perhaps but to allow it.  Which is how Canada became independent.  It may have taken a century but it happened with minimal violence and bad feelings.  In the long run England gained because we (and Australia among others) were there for England in both World Wars, friends and allies.  If we had recently fought for our independence would we have come back to their aid?

When Newfoundland began to want to leave the nest they had several options, obviously they chose to join Canada.  The only significant thing insisted on by England was that treaty obligations that England had relevant to Newfoundland had to be respected by the new government.  Primarily what that meant was the military bases granted to the U.S. had to be continued on the same terms unless and until the U.S. agreed to renegotiate the terms.  

I would expect that England would just step aside so long as both the Islands and Canada agreed to merge and accept any treaty obligations that England might have in connection with the islands.  

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Personaly, I would Be all for Expanding Canada. heck It would help there Economy, based on It's location, and although the US dollar is low, I used to know Quite a few truck Drivers, that had a ploy to make money on exchange rates at the Border, when I was 13 years old. A few years back BTW.

Seriously, Let you guys have your days in the sun.

Stephen  




Today the Turks and Caicos tomorrow .....?  


Haiti is vulnerable.  We already get along with Cuba.  Pretty soon we could have you surrounded.     I wonder if any of them would make a good space launch site?   Then we would reaaally have you surrounded.    

NJAntman

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2004, 04:10:51 pm »
Need a new flag if this goes through? I suggest adding a palm tree down on the lower right corner.  

SFC Bennie

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2004, 02:56:38 am »
I'm sure Canadian science can genetically engineer a tropical maple tree.

Then Canadian science will go too far and come up with a pineapple/maple hybrid that coats pineapples in maple syrup.

It's one am. What the heck else did you expect me to post? :-)

Scott Bennie  
« Last Edit: March 17, 2004, 02:57:50 am by SFC Bennie »

Age

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2004, 04:28:39 am »
   I hope this happens Nemesis I look forward to going somewhere where it warm and  the Dollar is a Dollar .It would be nice to take winter holiday down there.I hope this happens when I get to that age.

   It would be our HawaII.We will see about luanching Vehicles into space but let convince nerdlaT to move there first and be a Canandian Co. and you and Firesoul could go and work for them  

   You are right you do spend a lot of time in here it is not that big though but I have been a user to long  
     
« Last Edit: March 23, 2004, 02:57:01 am by Age »

JMM

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2004, 08:19:21 am »
Speaking of Islands, what use is Puerto Rico and other territories to us? Can't be just rum...

Oh, I forgot, we used to have a bombing range there, hehehehehehehehehehe.    

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2004, 06:10:24 pm »
A possible 11th province

Quote:

Currently a British overseas territory, the Turks and Caicos (actually a grouping of 40 islands located 250 kilometres east of Cuba) have a history of being on the wish lists of Canadian politicians.


 

Sirgod

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2004, 06:18:31 pm »
That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2004, 06:41:14 pm »
Quote:

That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen  




It is not exactly front page news at this time.  Most people say "wheres that?" when the islands are mentioned.   Which explains the map in the story.  I myself had never heard of them until it began to be mentioned a month or so back.

The people I have talked to like the idea of a Canadian location that our "snowbirds" can go to when they fly south for the winter, rather than Florida.  Of course Florida might experience some financial fallout if this goes through.  The Snowbirds have limitations on how long they can stay in Florida due to residencey issues with both countries.  Some are also becoming concerned with the treatment of Canadians (the deportation issue discussed a while back as well as the homelands security act).  Being able to avoid the winter weather and stay in Canada is quite attractive to that set.  If it goes through I would expect the averagae age in the islands to rise fairly quickly as retirees move down there.

The Conservative party has at least been flirting with the idea of making this an election issue (election date not yet set as the ruling Liberals try to handle some scandals).   Beyond that it is mostly fairly low key.    

NJAntman

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2004, 06:41:53 pm »
Are they going to ask the Brits nicely to hand it over or would this be somekind of purchase?  

Sirgod

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2004, 06:47:25 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen  




It is not exactly front page news at this time.  Most people say "wheres that?" when the islands are mentioned.   Which explains the map in the story.  I myself had never heard of them until it began to be mentioned a month or so back.

The people I have talked to like the idea of a Canadian location that our "snowbirds" can go to when they fly south for the winter, rather than Florida.  Of course Florida might experience some financial fallout if this goes through.  The Snowbirds have limitations on how long they can stay in Florida due to residencey issues with both countries.  Some are also becoming concerned with the treatment of Canadians (the deportation issue discussed a while back as well as the homelands security act).  Being able to avoid the winter weather and stay in Canada is quite attractive to that set.  If it goes through I would expect the averagae age in the islands to rise fairly quickly as retirees move down there.

The Conservative party has at least been flirting with the idea of making this an election issue (election date not yet set as the ruling Liberals try to handle some scandals).   Beyond that it is mostly fairly low key.    




Personaly, I would Be all for Expanding Canada. heck It would help there Economy, based on It's location, and although the US dollar is low, I used to know Quite a few truck Drivers, that had a ploy to make money on exchange rates at the Border, when I was 13 years old. A few years back BTW.

Seriously, Let you guys have your days in the sun.

Stephen

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2004, 10:27:04 pm »
Quote:

Are they going to ask the Brits nicely to hand it over or would this be somekind of purchase?  




England learned a long time ago (when 13 colonies had rebelled ) that when a colony wants independence it is better for all concerned to allow it, slowly and gradually perhaps but to allow it.  Which is how Canada became independent.  It may have taken a century but it happened with minimal violence and bad feelings.  In the long run England gained because we (and Australia among others) were there for England in both World Wars, friends and allies.  If we had recently fought for our independence would we have come back to their aid?

When Newfoundland began to want to leave the nest they had several options, obviously they chose to join Canada.  The only significant thing insisted on by England was that treaty obligations that England had relevant to Newfoundland had to be respected by the new government.  Primarily what that meant was the military bases granted to the U.S. had to be continued on the same terms unless and until the U.S. agreed to renegotiate the terms.  

I would expect that England would just step aside so long as both the Islands and Canada agreed to merge and accept any treaty obligations that England might have in connection with the islands.  

Quote:

Personaly, I would Be all for Expanding Canada. heck It would help there Economy, based on It's location, and although the US dollar is low, I used to know Quite a few truck Drivers, that had a ploy to make money on exchange rates at the Border, when I was 13 years old. A few years back BTW.

Seriously, Let you guys have your days in the sun.

Stephen  




Today the Turks and Caicos tomorrow .....?  


Haiti is vulnerable.  We already get along with Cuba.  Pretty soon we could have you surrounded.     I wonder if any of them would make a good space launch site?   Then we would reaaally have you surrounded.    

NJAntman

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #16 on: March 16, 2004, 04:10:51 pm »
Need a new flag if this goes through? I suggest adding a palm tree down on the lower right corner.  

SFC Bennie

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2004, 02:56:38 am »
I'm sure Canadian science can genetically engineer a tropical maple tree.

Then Canadian science will go too far and come up with a pineapple/maple hybrid that coats pineapples in maple syrup.

It's one am. What the heck else did you expect me to post? :-)

Scott Bennie  
« Last Edit: March 17, 2004, 02:57:50 am by SFC Bennie »

Age

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #18 on: March 17, 2004, 04:28:39 am »
   I hope this happens Nemesis I look forward to going somewhere where it warm and  the Dollar is a Dollar .It would be nice to take winter holiday down there.I hope this happens when I get to that age.

   It would be our HawaII.We will see about luanching Vehicles into space but let convince nerdlaT to move there first and be a Canandian Co. and you and Firesoul could go and work for them  

   You are right you do spend a lot of time in here it is not that big though but I have been a user to long  
     
« Last Edit: March 23, 2004, 02:57:01 am by Age »

JMM

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #19 on: March 17, 2004, 08:19:21 am »
Speaking of Islands, what use is Puerto Rico and other territories to us? Can't be just rum...

Oh, I forgot, we used to have a bombing range there, hehehehehehehehehehe.    

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2004, 06:10:24 pm »
A possible 11th province

Quote:

Currently a British overseas territory, the Turks and Caicos (actually a grouping of 40 islands located 250 kilometres east of Cuba) have a history of being on the wish lists of Canadian politicians.


 

Sirgod

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2004, 06:18:31 pm »
That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2004, 06:41:14 pm »
Quote:

That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen  




It is not exactly front page news at this time.  Most people say "wheres that?" when the islands are mentioned.   Which explains the map in the story.  I myself had never heard of them until it began to be mentioned a month or so back.

The people I have talked to like the idea of a Canadian location that our "snowbirds" can go to when they fly south for the winter, rather than Florida.  Of course Florida might experience some financial fallout if this goes through.  The Snowbirds have limitations on how long they can stay in Florida due to residencey issues with both countries.  Some are also becoming concerned with the treatment of Canadians (the deportation issue discussed a while back as well as the homelands security act).  Being able to avoid the winter weather and stay in Canada is quite attractive to that set.  If it goes through I would expect the averagae age in the islands to rise fairly quickly as retirees move down there.

The Conservative party has at least been flirting with the idea of making this an election issue (election date not yet set as the ruling Liberals try to handle some scandals).   Beyond that it is mostly fairly low key.    

NJAntman

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #23 on: March 15, 2004, 06:41:53 pm »
Are they going to ask the Brits nicely to hand it over or would this be somekind of purchase?  

Sirgod

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #24 on: March 15, 2004, 06:47:25 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

That's actually kind of cool. Esp. since the Us dollar is the curency in use.  

Seriously, what's the tempo up in Canada about this? I read It as what Canada could do for the area, But what can It do for regular Canadians, besides Help "wayword Senators"

Stephen  




It is not exactly front page news at this time.  Most people say "wheres that?" when the islands are mentioned.   Which explains the map in the story.  I myself had never heard of them until it began to be mentioned a month or so back.

The people I have talked to like the idea of a Canadian location that our "snowbirds" can go to when they fly south for the winter, rather than Florida.  Of course Florida might experience some financial fallout if this goes through.  The Snowbirds have limitations on how long they can stay in Florida due to residencey issues with both countries.  Some are also becoming concerned with the treatment of Canadians (the deportation issue discussed a while back as well as the homelands security act).  Being able to avoid the winter weather and stay in Canada is quite attractive to that set.  If it goes through I would expect the averagae age in the islands to rise fairly quickly as retirees move down there.

The Conservative party has at least been flirting with the idea of making this an election issue (election date not yet set as the ruling Liberals try to handle some scandals).   Beyond that it is mostly fairly low key.    




Personaly, I would Be all for Expanding Canada. heck It would help there Economy, based on It's location, and although the US dollar is low, I used to know Quite a few truck Drivers, that had a ploy to make money on exchange rates at the Border, when I was 13 years old. A few years back BTW.

Seriously, Let you guys have your days in the sun.

Stephen

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #25 on: March 15, 2004, 10:27:04 pm »
Quote:

Are they going to ask the Brits nicely to hand it over or would this be somekind of purchase?  




England learned a long time ago (when 13 colonies had rebelled ) that when a colony wants independence it is better for all concerned to allow it, slowly and gradually perhaps but to allow it.  Which is how Canada became independent.  It may have taken a century but it happened with minimal violence and bad feelings.  In the long run England gained because we (and Australia among others) were there for England in both World Wars, friends and allies.  If we had recently fought for our independence would we have come back to their aid?

When Newfoundland began to want to leave the nest they had several options, obviously they chose to join Canada.  The only significant thing insisted on by England was that treaty obligations that England had relevant to Newfoundland had to be respected by the new government.  Primarily what that meant was the military bases granted to the U.S. had to be continued on the same terms unless and until the U.S. agreed to renegotiate the terms.  

I would expect that England would just step aside so long as both the Islands and Canada agreed to merge and accept any treaty obligations that England might have in connection with the islands.  

Quote:

Personaly, I would Be all for Expanding Canada. heck It would help there Economy, based on It's location, and although the US dollar is low, I used to know Quite a few truck Drivers, that had a ploy to make money on exchange rates at the Border, when I was 13 years old. A few years back BTW.

Seriously, Let you guys have your days in the sun.

Stephen  




Today the Turks and Caicos tomorrow .....?  


Haiti is vulnerable.  We already get along with Cuba.  Pretty soon we could have you surrounded.     I wonder if any of them would make a good space launch site?   Then we would reaaally have you surrounded.    

NJAntman

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #26 on: March 16, 2004, 04:10:51 pm »
Need a new flag if this goes through? I suggest adding a palm tree down on the lower right corner.  

SFC Bennie

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #27 on: March 17, 2004, 02:56:38 am »
I'm sure Canadian science can genetically engineer a tropical maple tree.

Then Canadian science will go too far and come up with a pineapple/maple hybrid that coats pineapples in maple syrup.

It's one am. What the heck else did you expect me to post? :-)

Scott Bennie  
« Last Edit: March 17, 2004, 02:57:50 am by SFC Bennie »

Age

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #28 on: March 17, 2004, 04:28:39 am »
   I hope this happens Nemesis I look forward to going somewhere where it warm and  the Dollar is a Dollar .It would be nice to take winter holiday down there.I hope this happens when I get to that age.

   It would be our HawaII.We will see about luanching Vehicles into space but let convince nerdlaT to move there first and be a Canandian Co. and you and Firesoul could go and work for them  

   You are right you do spend a lot of time in here it is not that big though but I have been a user to long  
     
« Last Edit: March 23, 2004, 02:57:01 am by Age »

JMM

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Re: Canada's place in the Sun?
« Reply #29 on: March 17, 2004, 08:19:21 am »
Speaking of Islands, what use is Puerto Rico and other territories to us? Can't be just rum...

Oh, I forgot, we used to have a bombing range there, hehehehehehehehehehe.