Topic: The Great NWN Thread (Read 9055 times)

TheBigCheese · « **on:** March 11, 2004, 02:59:43 am »

Heres a good old chestnut that should be carried over from the old Off Topic Forum.

Never Winter Nights

I just got Hordes of the Underdark (excellent)

which adds tons to the game, epic levels for PC's,more creatures, underground tilesets,more new new specialist PC's..etc etc

if you dont own it, get it

play the game online and it is like a free MMORPG

I play on the Euro server The Three Kingdoms

http://www.3kds.com/

it is heavy roleplay and hardcore rules and the trade skill system, so not for the beginner

Tremok · « **Reply #1 on:** March 11, 2004, 03:54:39 am »

Re:HOTU,

Yes, and you could think Bioware would spend two friggin minutes on research to make sure things line up. They did such a piss poor job one would think they *tried* to do badly.

- Spoilers -

Aribeth dead, at the 8th level of hell, a half-elf, and had a childhood in Neverwinter instead of in a small human village? For Heaven's sake!

None of the NWN expansions were as good as the original. Both left me quite disappointed. Never again will I buy a Bioware expansion without very thorough research.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #2 on:** March 11, 2004, 05:51:30 am »

I dont bother with the single player as the online game is far better

Aldaron · « **Reply #3 on:** March 11, 2004, 08:15:03 am »

Actually I found each SP campaign better than the original.

Sirgod · « **Reply #4 on:** March 11, 2004, 09:36:39 am »

Quote:

Actually I found each SP campaign better than the original.

I have to agree, But It's been awhile since I've played It.

stephen

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #5 on:** March 11, 2004, 11:27:34 am »

I thought that the single player game for NWN:HotU was fantastic. It starts off as a dungeon crawl without much story, but the plot gets more and more interesting as the game progresses. It even contains a major plot twist at one crucial point (with a cutscene) that caught me completely off guard.

I also liked that they relaxes the camera controls so that I could play with a low over-the-shoulder view the way I would play games like Dark Age of Camelot.

Hey, let me bring up another game: Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. WC3 is mostly focused on multiplayer, but it does have a good campaign in the expansion. But the real little gem is the bonus "Orc" campaign that plays more like an RPG than it does an RTS. (E.g. no building, just quests and unit tactics). They shipped with only Part I of the campaign but recently patched the game so that Parts II and III are available. I'm in the middle of Part II and am having a blast. Gives me something to do while praying feverishly to get into the World of Warcraft beta.

Sirgod · « **Reply #6 on:** March 11, 2004, 11:40:39 am »

thanks for the Info there Scott I might have to Re-install WC3 and It's expansion again.

Stephen

Rondo_GE · « **Reply #7 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:02:52 pm »

I like the single player version of NWN over the multiplayer...almost the opposite of SFC. It's just that the "story-telling" tools in NWN seem to be really good...the best Ive seen yet. The multiplayer version can retain those charactersitic but too often the game devolves into another "Zelda", with dudes running through a dungeon at high speed, hacking and slashing about...clicking at high speed....

SFC was one of those multiplayer games that got even more interesting when you played it slow.

Anyway I loved HoTU but the thing went linear on me in Chapter 3. I have a feeling they rushed that last chapter. The game improvements and additions were well worth the money.

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #8 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:46:04 pm »

Yeah. if you want a hack-n-slash fast-paced dungeon crawl, then don't play NWN online --go play Diablo II which was designed for that.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:10:06 am »

Hack n slash online servers are there in NWN if you want them but the game was designed with complex D+D in mind, the roleplay only server I play on is very strict about hack n slash and kids thinking they can steal off everyone.I go for the 'Hard Core Rules' servers myself, they are very challenging and often frustrating, though it is really great when you and all others MUST roleplay your character.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2004, 11:25:00 am »

Do any other Euro's play on the Three Kingdoms server here?

AcePylut · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2004, 08:55:03 pm »

Try out The Three Towns server Cheese.

HardCore rules, full PVP (except for one noob area, the interior of each town in the Three Towns alliance only accessable by non-Outlaws, and Voidwars Temple). It's not a RP server, but you can RP if you wish.

The rules are: no griefing.

PPing is allowed, PKing is allowed and encouraged.

No Hak's

All in all a great server with a great bunch of guys online... one where the "evil" people are evil, but the people behing the "evil" people are usually great people.

But then again, after playing NWN for over a year, I've found out how much of a broken game they built. I totally understand the "SFB Canon guys vs. the SFC is a unique game" argument. Canon is balanced, non-Canon is appeasing the munchkins.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #13 on:** March 17, 2004, 04:20:18 am »

Thanks but I'll give it a miss,I have been playing from the beginning of NWN and only full RP and HCR seems to satisfy me now.

in fact I tend to like the roleplay more than the gameplay and The Three Kingdoms server is not for the inexperienced player.

AcePylut · « **Reply #14 on:** March 17, 2004, 08:22:18 am »

What are the PK rules on 3K and will I spend the first 3 levels killing rats?

ME <<-->> only like full-pvp servers.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #15 on:** March 17, 2004, 10:47:16 am »

PK is allowed but has to be roleplayed, not 'theres a drow PC kill her' kinda thing.
You can kill someone who thieves off you though ...he he
and get your stuff back.
there are also subraces (with adjusted PC charicteristics)but you need to post permission for all but drow and there is a level cap on goblins, kolbolds and orcs.

there are many noob missions and in the starting halls you can train on a dummy to LvL 2.

This is a server for adults too and can be explicit if you roleplay it that way.

AcePylut · « **Reply #17 on:** March 18, 2004, 12:18:35 pm »

Where's the server located at Cheese? I was checking around, but haven't seen it online in 2 days.

PS - does it have heartbeat scripts?

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #18 on:** March 18, 2004, 01:01:12 pm »

it is a direct connect server to cut out lag, check the site ,in the right hand column you get the NWN launcher and the direct connect prog.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #19 on:** March 30, 2004, 05:24:24 pm »

The Community Expansion Pack is now available at the bioware site ,here is a rundown of what is in it:

New unreleased creatures not available anywhere else and over 450 community creatures, such as goblins, owlbears, and gelugons. Many of these creatures also feature wing and tail nodes.
Two new dynamic creatures suitable for PCs: the Wemic and the Brownie.
14 completely new weapon types, including the falchion, maul, nunchaku, and trident, and new components for thousands of unique weapons.
324 new shields. There's also new components for thousands of unique armor and clothing types.
772 new inventory icons including rings, robes and books, and 90 new items from holy symbols to musical instruments.
1,448 new placeables from plates and bowls to siege engines, ships, and towers.
121 new NPC portraits for dwarves, elves, gnomes, halflings, humans, half-elves, half-orcs, wemics, and driders

http://nwn.bioware.com/players/cep.html

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #20 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:29:40 pm »

I must say I have played alot of MMorpg's but this beats all of them (and its cheaper)
roleplay is basically unheard of or not strictly implemented on these games, this is where NWN shines, it has small enough servers to regulate it.

This is probably the reason I have never uninstalled it from my desktop since it first was released

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #21 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:59:43 am »

Heres a good old chestnut that should be carried over from the old Off Topic Forum.

Never Winter Nights

I just got Hordes of the Underdark (excellent)

which adds tons to the game, epic levels for PC's,more creatures, underground tilesets,more new new specialist PC's..etc etc

if you dont own it, get it

play the game online and it is like a free MMORPG

I play on the Euro server The Three Kingdoms

http://www.3kds.com/

it is heavy roleplay and hardcore rules and the trade skill system, so not for the beginner

Tremok · « **Reply #22 on:** March 11, 2004, 03:54:39 am »

Re:HOTU,

Yes, and you could think Bioware would spend two friggin minutes on research to make sure things line up. They did such a piss poor job one would think they *tried* to do badly.

- Spoilers -

Aribeth dead, at the 8th level of hell, a half-elf, and had a childhood in Neverwinter instead of in a small human village? For Heaven's sake!

None of the NWN expansions were as good as the original. Both left me quite disappointed. Never again will I buy a Bioware expansion without very thorough research.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #23 on:** March 11, 2004, 05:51:30 am »

I dont bother with the single player as the online game is far better

Aldaron · « **Reply #24 on:** March 11, 2004, 08:15:03 am »

Actually I found each SP campaign better than the original.

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2004, 11:27:34 am »

I thought that the single player game for NWN:HotU was fantastic. It starts off as a dungeon crawl without much story, but the plot gets more and more interesting as the game progresses. It even contains a major plot twist at one crucial point (with a cutscene) that caught me completely off guard.

I also liked that they relaxes the camera controls so that I could play with a low over-the-shoulder view the way I would play games like Dark Age of Camelot.

Hey, let me bring up another game: Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. WC3 is mostly focused on multiplayer, but it does have a good campaign in the expansion. But the real little gem is the bonus "Orc" campaign that plays more like an RPG than it does an RTS. (E.g. no building, just quests and unit tactics). They shipped with only Part I of the campaign but recently patched the game so that Parts II and III are available. I'm in the middle of Part II and am having a blast. Gives me something to do while praying feverishly to get into the World of Warcraft beta.

Sirgod · « **Reply #27 on:** March 11, 2004, 11:40:39 am »

thanks for the Info there Scott I might have to Re-install WC3 and It's expansion again.

Stephen

Rondo_GE · « **Reply #28 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:02:52 pm »

I like the single player version of NWN over the multiplayer...almost the opposite of SFC. It's just that the "story-telling" tools in NWN seem to be really good...the best Ive seen yet. The multiplayer version can retain those charactersitic but too often the game devolves into another "Zelda", with dudes running through a dungeon at high speed, hacking and slashing about...clicking at high speed....

SFC was one of those multiplayer games that got even more interesting when you played it slow.

Anyway I loved HoTU but the thing went linear on me in Chapter 3. I have a feeling they rushed that last chapter. The game improvements and additions were well worth the money.

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #29 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:46:04 pm »

Yeah. if you want a hack-n-slash fast-paced dungeon crawl, then don't play NWN online --go play Diablo II which was designed for that.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #30 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:10:06 am »

Hack n slash online servers are there in NWN if you want them but the game was designed with complex D+D in mind, the roleplay only server I play on is very strict about hack n slash and kids thinking they can steal off everyone.I go for the 'Hard Core Rules' servers myself, they are very challenging and often frustrating, though it is really great when you and all others MUST roleplay your character.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #31 on:** March 16, 2004, 11:25:00 am »

Do any other Euro's play on the Three Kingdoms server here?

AcePylut · « **Reply #33 on:** March 16, 2004, 08:55:03 pm »

Try out The Three Towns server Cheese.

HardCore rules, full PVP (except for one noob area, the interior of each town in the Three Towns alliance only accessable by non-Outlaws, and Voidwars Temple). It's not a RP server, but you can RP if you wish.

The rules are: no griefing.

PPing is allowed, PKing is allowed and encouraged.

No Hak's

All in all a great server with a great bunch of guys online... one where the "evil" people are evil, but the people behing the "evil" people are usually great people.

But then again, after playing NWN for over a year, I've found out how much of a broken game they built. I totally understand the "SFB Canon guys vs. the SFC is a unique game" argument. Canon is balanced, non-Canon is appeasing the munchkins.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #34 on:** March 17, 2004, 04:20:18 am »

Thanks but I'll give it a miss,I have been playing from the beginning of NWN and only full RP and HCR seems to satisfy me now.

in fact I tend to like the roleplay more than the gameplay and The Three Kingdoms server is not for the inexperienced player.

AcePylut · « **Reply #35 on:** March 17, 2004, 08:22:18 am »

What are the PK rules on 3K and will I spend the first 3 levels killing rats?

ME <<-->> only like full-pvp servers.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #36 on:** March 17, 2004, 10:47:16 am »

PK is allowed but has to be roleplayed, not 'theres a drow PC kill her' kinda thing.
You can kill someone who thieves off you though ...he he
and get your stuff back.
there are also subraces (with adjusted PC charicteristics)but you need to post permission for all but drow and there is a level cap on goblins, kolbolds and orcs.

there are many noob missions and in the starting halls you can train on a dummy to LvL 2.

This is a server for adults too and can be explicit if you roleplay it that way.

AcePylut · « **Reply #38 on:** March 18, 2004, 12:18:35 pm »

Where's the server located at Cheese? I was checking around, but haven't seen it online in 2 days.

PS - does it have heartbeat scripts?

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #39 on:** March 18, 2004, 01:01:12 pm »

it is a direct connect server to cut out lag, check the site ,in the right hand column you get the NWN launcher and the direct connect prog.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #40 on:** March 30, 2004, 05:24:24 pm »

The Community Expansion Pack is now available at the bioware site ,here is a rundown of what is in it:

New unreleased creatures not available anywhere else and over 450 community creatures, such as goblins, owlbears, and gelugons. Many of these creatures also feature wing and tail nodes.
Two new dynamic creatures suitable for PCs: the Wemic and the Brownie.
14 completely new weapon types, including the falchion, maul, nunchaku, and trident, and new components for thousands of unique weapons.
324 new shields. There's also new components for thousands of unique armor and clothing types.
772 new inventory icons including rings, robes and books, and 90 new items from holy symbols to musical instruments.
1,448 new placeables from plates and bowls to siege engines, ships, and towers.
121 new NPC portraits for dwarves, elves, gnomes, halflings, humans, half-elves, half-orcs, wemics, and driders

http://nwn.bioware.com/players/cep.html

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #41 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:29:40 pm »

I must say I have played alot of MMorpg's but this beats all of them (and its cheaper)
roleplay is basically unheard of or not strictly implemented on these games, this is where NWN shines, it has small enough servers to regulate it.

This is probably the reason I have never uninstalled it from my desktop since it first was released

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #42 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:59:43 am »

Heres a good old chestnut that should be carried over from the old Off Topic Forum.

Never Winter Nights

I just got Hordes of the Underdark (excellent)

which adds tons to the game, epic levels for PC's,more creatures, underground tilesets,more new new specialist PC's..etc etc

if you dont own it, get it

play the game online and it is like a free MMORPG

I play on the Euro server The Three Kingdoms

http://www.3kds.com/

it is heavy roleplay and hardcore rules and the trade skill system, so not for the beginner

Tremok · « **Reply #43 on:** March 11, 2004, 03:54:39 am »

Re:HOTU,

Yes, and you could think Bioware would spend two friggin minutes on research to make sure things line up. They did such a piss poor job one would think they *tried* to do badly.

- Spoilers -

Aribeth dead, at the 8th level of hell, a half-elf, and had a childhood in Neverwinter instead of in a small human village? For Heaven's sake!

None of the NWN expansions were as good as the original. Both left me quite disappointed. Never again will I buy a Bioware expansion without very thorough research.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #44 on:** March 11, 2004, 05:51:30 am »

I dont bother with the single player as the online game is far better

Aldaron · « **Reply #45 on:** March 11, 2004, 08:15:03 am »

Actually I found each SP campaign better than the original.

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #47 on:** March 11, 2004, 11:27:34 am »

I thought that the single player game for NWN:HotU was fantastic. It starts off as a dungeon crawl without much story, but the plot gets more and more interesting as the game progresses. It even contains a major plot twist at one crucial point (with a cutscene) that caught me completely off guard.

I also liked that they relaxes the camera controls so that I could play with a low over-the-shoulder view the way I would play games like Dark Age of Camelot.

Hey, let me bring up another game: Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne. WC3 is mostly focused on multiplayer, but it does have a good campaign in the expansion. But the real little gem is the bonus "Orc" campaign that plays more like an RPG than it does an RTS. (E.g. no building, just quests and unit tactics). They shipped with only Part I of the campaign but recently patched the game so that Parts II and III are available. I'm in the middle of Part II and am having a blast. Gives me something to do while praying feverishly to get into the World of Warcraft beta.

Sirgod · « **Reply #48 on:** March 11, 2004, 11:40:39 am »

thanks for the Info there Scott I might have to Re-install WC3 and It's expansion again.

Stephen

Rondo_GE · « **Reply #49 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:02:52 pm »

I like the single player version of NWN over the multiplayer...almost the opposite of SFC. It's just that the "story-telling" tools in NWN seem to be really good...the best Ive seen yet. The multiplayer version can retain those charactersitic but too often the game devolves into another "Zelda", with dudes running through a dungeon at high speed, hacking and slashing about...clicking at high speed....

SFC was one of those multiplayer games that got even more interesting when you played it slow.

Anyway I loved HoTU but the thing went linear on me in Chapter 3. I have a feeling they rushed that last chapter. The game improvements and additions were well worth the money.

Scott Allen Abfalter · « **Reply #50 on:** March 11, 2004, 02:46:04 pm »

Yeah. if you want a hack-n-slash fast-paced dungeon crawl, then don't play NWN online --go play Diablo II which was designed for that.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #51 on:** March 12, 2004, 02:10:06 am »

Hack n slash online servers are there in NWN if you want them but the game was designed with complex D+D in mind, the roleplay only server I play on is very strict about hack n slash and kids thinking they can steal off everyone.I go for the 'Hard Core Rules' servers myself, they are very challenging and often frustrating, though it is really great when you and all others MUST roleplay your character.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #52 on:** March 16, 2004, 11:25:00 am »

Do any other Euro's play on the Three Kingdoms server here?

AcePylut · « **Reply #54 on:** March 16, 2004, 08:55:03 pm »

Try out The Three Towns server Cheese.

HardCore rules, full PVP (except for one noob area, the interior of each town in the Three Towns alliance only accessable by non-Outlaws, and Voidwars Temple). It's not a RP server, but you can RP if you wish.

The rules are: no griefing.

PPing is allowed, PKing is allowed and encouraged.

No Hak's

All in all a great server with a great bunch of guys online... one where the "evil" people are evil, but the people behing the "evil" people are usually great people.

But then again, after playing NWN for over a year, I've found out how much of a broken game they built. I totally understand the "SFB Canon guys vs. the SFC is a unique game" argument. Canon is balanced, non-Canon is appeasing the munchkins.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #55 on:** March 17, 2004, 04:20:18 am »

Thanks but I'll give it a miss,I have been playing from the beginning of NWN and only full RP and HCR seems to satisfy me now.

in fact I tend to like the roleplay more than the gameplay and The Three Kingdoms server is not for the inexperienced player.

AcePylut · « **Reply #56 on:** March 17, 2004, 08:22:18 am »

What are the PK rules on 3K and will I spend the first 3 levels killing rats?

ME <<-->> only like full-pvp servers.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #57 on:** March 17, 2004, 10:47:16 am »

PK is allowed but has to be roleplayed, not 'theres a drow PC kill her' kinda thing.
You can kill someone who thieves off you though ...he he
and get your stuff back.
there are also subraces (with adjusted PC charicteristics)but you need to post permission for all but drow and there is a level cap on goblins, kolbolds and orcs.

there are many noob missions and in the starting halls you can train on a dummy to LvL 2.

This is a server for adults too and can be explicit if you roleplay it that way.

AcePylut · « **Reply #59 on:** March 18, 2004, 12:18:35 pm »

Where's the server located at Cheese? I was checking around, but haven't seen it online in 2 days.

PS - does it have heartbeat scripts?

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #60 on:** March 18, 2004, 01:01:12 pm »

it is a direct connect server to cut out lag, check the site ,in the right hand column you get the NWN launcher and the direct connect prog.

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #61 on:** March 30, 2004, 05:24:24 pm »

The Community Expansion Pack is now available at the bioware site ,here is a rundown of what is in it:

New unreleased creatures not available anywhere else and over 450 community creatures, such as goblins, owlbears, and gelugons. Many of these creatures also feature wing and tail nodes.
Two new dynamic creatures suitable for PCs: the Wemic and the Brownie.
14 completely new weapon types, including the falchion, maul, nunchaku, and trident, and new components for thousands of unique weapons.
324 new shields. There's also new components for thousands of unique armor and clothing types.
772 new inventory icons including rings, robes and books, and 90 new items from holy symbols to musical instruments.
1,448 new placeables from plates and bowls to siege engines, ships, and towers.
121 new NPC portraits for dwarves, elves, gnomes, halflings, humans, half-elves, half-orcs, wemics, and driders

http://nwn.bioware.com/players/cep.html

TheBigCheese · « **Reply #62 on:** April 20, 2004, 06:29:40 pm »

I must say I have played alot of MMorpg's but this beats all of them (and its cheaper)
roleplay is basically unheard of or not strictly implemented on these games, this is where NWN shines, it has small enough servers to regulate it.

This is probably the reason I have never uninstalled it from my desktop since it first was released

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