Topic: On the Patch and the Forum (Read 16985 times)

Erik Bethke · « **on:** February 24, 2003, 11:12:06 pm »

Hello All,

Okay we now have a beta patch out and available to all of you folks. We are very happy to see this happen.

A lot of high quality communication went on today between Taldren and Activision and we have agreed to consider past frustrations as misunderstandings and failures of relationship management.

Both sides are have reaffirmed each other's contributions and that our goals are to clearly support SFC3.

So now we will take a week or two to see what the response is to the beta patch. We are especially interested in the performance of multiple modem users in the same dynaverse skirmish. We are asking for testing on this matter as a strictly volunteer basis. What this means is please do not call ATVI technical support for problems with this patch. Instead post any bugs here and together Taldren and Activision will coordinate the integration of bug complaints and see how to best deal with any open issues.

So, in honor of that spirit I am removing all the threads that detail this bit it melodrama.

-Erik Bethke
CEO Taldren, Inc.

Towelie · « **Reply #1 on:** February 24, 2003, 11:51:37 pm »

I knew you could do it Erik, we have faith in you. Thanks for the much needed positive note and all the support you've given us. You have gone beyond what many oher companies would do.

Dueling · « **Reply #2 on:** February 25, 2003, 12:11:25 am »

Thank you for the patch. I hope to play SFC into the ground, partly thanks to the GFL, and largely in thanks to you and your team. If I might add; setting up a time for a live chat session would be nice. Via Teamspeak or some VOIP program. I would not talk, but would surely listen to you or your rep. You might find some other interseting things from players who rarely post questions or bugs.

Thank god for hard working people,
GFL-B-Sun-17

CodeThor · « **Reply #3 on:** February 25, 2003, 01:10:14 am »

Good job cleaning up the mess Erik!

Hats off to you for taking the high road. Even though it's less travelled.

I might get flamed for this.. but what the hey.. also Thanks Activision.

Lets keep the patches coming!
CodeThor

Mars · « **Reply #4 on:** February 25, 2003, 01:25:19 am »

I agree with Code thor. Thanks to both ATVI and Taldren for supporting us. Just to let the ATVI guys in on something I, and I am sure not a few others, hate most other Star Trek games. In a word the suck. Now I got SFB I because it said SFB. That is why I gave it a chance. Up till then I had never bought a Star Trek game even though I love Star Trek. Now I loved SFB I, but I bought SFB II, OP, and SFC III because Taldren made the games. They supported us. I feel like I got more than what I paid for. Lots more. Because ATVI ler Taldren support SFC III like the other SFC games they are starting to work the same loyalty for thier company into me. I guess what I am saying is tks and please keep up the good work.

Captain KoraH · « **Reply #5 on:** February 25, 2003, 02:48:03 am »

One real big reason I keep buying SFC titles is because of Taldren. Thanks Erik, I can only imagine what this is like for you. Even though I might not play them much, I'm going to buy at least one copy of every game Taldren makes as long as you're in business.

grbaker · « **Reply #6 on:** February 25, 2003, 02:48:55 am »

I'm one very negative old fart but to EB, Taldren and ATVI I say "Thank you for the result".

now I just have to figure out which patch poor old me is to use since I am lucky enough to live in neither the US or UK.... {one potatoe, two potatoe.... }

grbaker · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2003, 02:53:23 am »

... and best of all I don't have to use that lamer FilePlanet or GameSpook to get it.... weeeee

shadow-viper · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2003, 02:58:00 am »

once agan when all seems grim Erik and his team step up to the plate and knocks out a home run for us all.
thank you from the bottom of my heart!! One ? can you ask activision if they can put a beta server up like ACT B and C
is on the old version? this my help to get a mix of players 56k and others on one server and my help with bug finding.

P.S I have installed it and the more I play the cooler it gets!! Thank you Thank you

kevlar · « **Reply #9 on:** February 25, 2003, 03:00:16 am »

Quote:

I'm one very negative old fart but to EB, Taldren and ATVI I say "Thank you for the result".

now I just have to figure out which patch poor old me is to use since I am lucky enough to live in neither the US or UK.... {one potatoe, two potatoe.... }

I found out by going to

C:\Program Files\Activision\Sfc3\Docs\Help\Manuals

my pdf file, after open, displays, right on top : SFC3_PC_Man_UK

wilfbrim · « **Reply #10 on:** February 25, 2003, 06:11:03 am »

Well, having been around since the bad ol days of SFC1 (and having SFC2/3 as well, sorry OP just didn't seem viable), I would also like to add my 2 cents worth of praise for Taldren. You guys have done very well in holding up the ethics of this whole evolution, and are guilty of an extremely high level of business ethics. Whats wrong with you guys?

Thanks for your efforts, I'd love to try the dynaverse but living in the backwoods, and only able to have 28.8 out with sattellite in, limits me to no online gameing. I do appreciate your efforts at helping all of your customers, single and multiple players all.

ChessMess · « **Reply #11 on:** February 25, 2003, 07:53:17 am »

It is good to hear this, I commend those who can set aside past grievences in order to create a relationship of trust and respect. Only after acknowledgement that a problem exists can work be done to try to resolve it in a manner that is mutually beneficial to both parties. A good relationship between developer and publisher should be the rule, rather then the exception.

Let us not forget though, the underlying problems with current project managment methodologies. I hope that the way in which this is handled, from dev/pub interactions to expectations, is being reviewed internally by ATVI in order to reduce and eliminate its roll in causing these type of situations to develop.

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #12 on:** February 25, 2003, 07:57:06 am »

Aye I salute you, the game does feel more complete or finished or somthing, its just better. People will argue that it should have been boxed like this but Im just glad things have taken a turn for the better.

Im currently running my own tests, one thing that has impressed me has been the improved AI. I really love the way they just dont sit there and wait to be blown away anymore, its not quite like fighting a human player but it gives you reason not to go up against a Raptor whilest in a low CL, those plasma shots are devestating.

Also I noticed I found it harder to detect cloaked ships, maybe a bit too tough. I dont want to whine (and beleive me Im not), but i do hope this dosnt give the Roms too much of even playing field

Seriously though thanks for releasing it in public BETA form, this is by far the best method of releasing patches, even MS do it

Lets hope any final bugs can be communicated back to you guys so a final release can be made, any advice on how best to "bug report" other than just an explanation of events?

WOOOOOOOOOOO Im please

Thats not true I just got an exam results back with a sh*tty 50% attached to it, dont know how much time I will have for SFC3 when i think about it damn life sucks

Daew Anahos · « **Reply #13 on:** February 25, 2003, 09:18:35 am »

BEAUTIFUL!

Awesome news Erik!

Glad things have been patched up : - )

Stylsy · « **Reply #15 on:** February 25, 2003, 10:36:13 am »

Great to see that it is worked out. Although I too feel Activision have a lesson to learn from this.

Gravy · « **Reply #16 on:** February 25, 2003, 10:50:10 am »

hi just found out that the beta patch we've all been waiting for is finally here taa daa I was so excited. followed the link to activision to begin downloading the "fix" and lo and behold in the third pargraph it says do not download this if you are a dialup. I'm crushed almost at a loss for words which is highly unusual for an alabama chickenhauler. continuing it says the reason for this is that it will introduce lag. I got news for ya there is already lag. so, ok I realize that we dialups are a minority, some of us have no choice because we live in remote areas where a fast connection is just not available no matter how much we beg, threaten, or try to bribe the powers that be. we are out there I know because I have met a few besides myself so here are my questions for whomever can give a possible answer or other info,

are all dynaverse 3 gameservers going to be installing this patch?

when will this issue be fixed?

where can we dialups find support?

I know there are alot of dialups out there (remember when everybody was a dialup?) feel free to contact me at gravyofbama@aol.com maybe someone should start a webpage or domain just for the dialup issues.

if all the gameservers choose to install the patch I will have no other choice but to install it also and dam the consequences.

shame on me for not doing bug research on this game before I bought it, but I paid good money for it with the thought in mind that I would be able to play online with others.

I will wait patiently for a short time for the dialup patch and see which way the wind blows.

TH TH TH TH THATS ALL FOLKS

AdmiralRaimark · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2003, 11:22:31 am »

Very good work...

I must admit, I'm enjoying the replay of everything, but it's almost silly of me to say that the one thing I was waiting for and got was my chance to advance beyond the rank of Lieutenant

Sometimes, it's the little things that make the difference.

Thanks,

GM

Blitzkrieg · « **Reply #18 on:** February 25, 2003, 11:46:23 am »

****Bugs still to fix****

Refit/Repair bug still remains
Lag is worse even with Broadband
People still get stuck in game
When a battle dosnt start on the 2nd countdown, you get charged 1000 disrepute

There was another bug, but on the last point I just made: This is intolerable, for honest players to get charged disrepute because they are flying with a human wing (hence the no game start) is unbelievable. Please please no severs run this setting if it can be turned off, I dont mind the game being far harder and really needing to work my way up (thats great in fact), but this bug makes it silly.

Wish I could remember that other bug now, should write these things down.

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Towelie

Dueling

CodeThor

Mars

Captain KoraH

grbaker

grbaker

shadow-viper

kevlar

wilfbrim

ChessMess

Blitzkrieg

Daew Anahos

Mr. Hypergol

Stylsy

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