Topic: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?  (Read 3335 times)

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Fusili

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #20 on: March 01, 2004, 02:16:36 pm »
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Unfortunately...no.. the current beta V500 was released by Activision.. they own the patching rights and have not shared them with Taldren..





Fwiw, I'm sure Pest misspoke and just for the record, ATVI has never "officially" released the beta patch and thus offers no support for that product. This also explain the title "beta-patch".

Best,
Jerry  





Now my brain hurts,you say Acti *edit* never officially relised beta and they dont support it?
But how can they block another beta from being made if they dont support it?  
« Last Edit: March 01, 2004, 02:47:48 pm by Taldren_Admin »

Taldren_Admin

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #21 on: March 01, 2004, 02:49:11 pm »
some miss information happening here..

what is true is this:

A beta patch is being worked on and will be released as soon as it is done.

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Pestalence

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #22 on: March 01, 2004, 02:49:25 pm »
Activision released v500.. however they stated that it is a Beta and it will not be supported and as such it is Unofficial, and not considered to be an actual patch release.. just a public beta for the final patch... however, their CS department will not offer help concerning the v500 and they refer people using it to this forum...

as for Taldren putting out a Beta.. it has been tried and it blew up like I posted above.. so it is up to Activision to either put out another Unofficial beta or to actually release a patch in it's final form.. or give the patching rights to Taldren so Taldren can support the game... either way.. it is all in Activision's hands...
 

Pestalence

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #23 on: March 01, 2004, 02:51:27 pm »
Sorry Ann, I guess we were both responding at the same time...
 

Toasty0

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #24 on: March 02, 2004, 05:30:56 pm »
It turns out I was mistaken. I guess my sometimes overwhelming support of Talren and it's hardworking and fan-dedicated personall can cloud my memory of events surrounding ATVI's involvement with SFC.

My apologies to Pestalence for doubting his recollection of events leading up to "beta-patch" release.

Best,
Jerry

 

Fusili

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #25 on: March 02, 2004, 06:33:14 pm »
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It turns out I was mistaken. I guess my sometimes overwhelming support of Talren and it's hardworking and fan-dedicated personall can cloud my memory of events surrounding ATVI's involvement with SFC.

My apologies to Pestalence for doubting his recollection of events leading up to "beta-patch" release.

Best,
Jerry

   




You completly miss understood me,i didnt wanted to discredit Taldren,but i was just wondering can Taldren find some flaw or sth in their patching agreement with Acti (dont want to swear again) ,or can they buy the patching licence from Acti...,it is clearly that they dont care about SFC3 and never did,and further more SFC3 has become a burden to them,so if they sell the patching rights to Taldren this will maybe encourage lot of people to return to SFC3,every 1 wins.
And if somehow Taldren is allowed to make official SFC3 patch it is 100% shure that with only 1 patch they will be unable to fix everything,ao it will need at least 2 to make it go just right,my respect to Taldern.  

Rod O'neal

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2004, 09:06:13 pm »
Maybe I'm way off base here. I'm definitely not "in the know" anymore than anyone else is (and less than many), but here's my two cents worth, anyway.
I think that Activision has no understanding of Taldren's commitment to their games and their fans. Activision has a one patch policy, from what I understand. This might mean that if they accepted an incomplete patch for a game that then the developer would have fulfilled their commitment to Activision and the game could go incomplete with no recourse on the developer. This might also set some legal precedent for others to follow suit and not properly complete their games.
Of course, anyone who's been here for any length of time knows that's not the way Taldren does things. We have continued to receive, updates, patches, fixes, things added because we want them, etc... for years on their games. Even from ex-employees (Thanks again, Dave. ) who have continued to show a commitment to us and pride in their product. (Thanks also to Khoromag, and I'm sure others, who have worked hard for us. If I've left anyone out, I'm sorry.)
Not to stick up for Activision. If their agreements not only allows, but creates the situation for a game to be able to go over a year without an official patch, then there's no excuse for such a stupid agreement from such a large, and presumably, professional company. There's probably more than one lawyer that isn't earning their paycheck IMO for this to have happened.
speaking from my experience with Taldren, I'm certain that they are doing all that they can to get SFC3 right. I'm sure that it pains them everytime that they read a, "Hey, when are you going to fix my game!" post about SFC3. As far as them buying the rights to patch the game goes, no offense, but that'd be like you paying your employer to let you work for them. Not something that I'd be willing to do.      

red_green

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2004, 03:35:09 pm »
I am really disappointed that Activision has the exclusive rights to Star Trek games. They really seem out of touch with the gaming community and certainly Star Trek which has a loyal following.  I have all but given up hope of seeing a patch released for SFC3, which I feel should include 4 new conquest missions which the game is so lacking for.

Capt_Spade

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2004, 04:12:51 am »
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I am really disappointed that Activision has the exclusive rights to Star Trek games. They really seem out of touch with the gaming community and certainly Star Trek which has a loyal following.  I have all but given up hope of seeing a patch released for SFC3, which I feel should include 4 new conquest missions which the game is so lacking for.  





I am dissapointed too, shame on Activision for pushing the game for a premature release! But do you think that is ALL the game is lacking? Try more races, ships, weapons, more modability (like being able to change the lousy 6 ship max in scirmish mode, come on that is no Star Trek battle!). Oh well, it is what it is!  

Fusili

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2004, 06:30:07 pm »
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I am really disappointed that Activision has the exclusive rights to Star Trek games. They really seem out of touch with the gaming community and certainly Star Trek which has a loyal following.  I have all but given up hope of seeing a patch released for SFC3, which I feel should include 4 new conquest missions which the game is so lacking for.  





I am dissapointed too, shame on Activision for pushing the game for a premature release! But do you think that is ALL the game is lacking? Try more races, ships, weapons, more modability (like being able to change the lousy 6 ship max in scirmish mode, come on that is no Star Trek battle!). Oh well, it is what it is!  




Yes you are right,but i think that the game needs more enhanced AI,if you play conquest,or D3 most of the time you will be fighting against AI,and it sucks big time.Another thing there are too little missions,it is fun 4 a week,but then its boring,the only thing i found to be worth is playing skirmish on gamespy,and not to talk about in ballance between races,i espect only 1 thing from the patch and that is better AI,that is the only thing that i am requesting,nothing more and nothing less.  

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2004, 11:06:57 pm »
Yep...taldren good, activision bad!

Fusili

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Re: Can Taldren make another SFC3 beta patch?
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2004, 01:36:01 pm »
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Yep...taldren good, activision bad!  




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