Topic: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.  (Read 18581 times)

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Sirgod

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #80 on: March 19, 2004, 12:29:01 pm »
Bump. C'mon guys, this is a fun thread. Let's keep It going.

stephen

GE-Raven

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« Reply #81 on: March 19, 2004, 12:46:20 pm »
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What is the name of the genre of music that employs "chance" and "randomness" as prime tools in it's "composition and performance"?

Hint:  John Cage was a famous composer of this genre (4'33")


   




Aleatoric music or aleatoricism.  It is music that is decided by chance.  4'33" for instance is a "piece" in which the pianist approaches tha piano goes through the normal routine of one about to play a piece of music.  However the pianist jsut sits there for 4' 33"  at which point he stands bows and exits.  The "music" of the piece is the uncomfortable silence of an audience waiting for something or anytning to happen.


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I do not know the answer to other question.

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What musical instrument is St. Cecilia (Patron saint of music and composers) said to have invented?

GE-Raven
 

Sirgod

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #82 on: March 19, 2004, 01:05:54 pm »
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What is the name of the genre of music that employs "chance" and "randomness" as prime tools in it's "composition and performance"?

Hint:  John Cage was a famous composer of this genre (4'33")


   




Aleatoric music or aleatoricism.  It is music that is decided by chance.  4'33" for instance is a "piece" in which the pianist approaches tha piano goes through the normal routine of one about to play a piece of music.  However the pianist jsut sits there for 4' 33"  at which point he stands bows and exits.  The "music" of the piece is the uncomfortable silence of an audience waiting for something or anytning to happen.


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I do not know the answer to other question.

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What musical instrument is St. Cecilia (Patron saint of music and composers) said to have invented?

GE-Raven
   




Doh I forgot about that, Silence being used as a Musical piece.

Oh and the answer too my question was Francis Scott Key.   link

Interesting case study IMHO.


anyway, was the instrunment the harpsichord or clavichord? just a wild guess I'm afraid.

BTW, I love this thread, I'm learning more about Music then I knew.

Stephen

GE-Raven

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #83 on: March 19, 2004, 01:22:51 pm »
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Doh I forgot about that, Silence being used as a Musical piece.

Oh and the answer too my question was Francis Scott Key.   link

Interesting case study IMHO.


anyway, was the instrunment the harpsichord or clavichord? just a wild guess I'm afraid.

BTW, I love this thread, I'm learning more about Music then I knew.

Stephen  




DOh... I remember hearing that story now... Francis Scott Key... I am an idiot.  

BTW you are in the right family of instruments.

I too have enjoyed this thread... but I figured that people had lost interest after the last question.  I will stick with it though.

GE-Raven
 

Sirgod

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #84 on: March 19, 2004, 01:32:45 pm »
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Doh I forgot about that, Silence being used as a Musical piece.

Oh and the answer too my question was Francis Scott Key.   link

Interesting case study IMHO.


anyway, was the instrunment the harpsichord or clavichord? just a wild guess I'm afraid.

BTW, I love this thread, I'm learning more about Music then I knew.

Stephen  




DOh... I remember hearing that story now... Francis Scott Key... I am an idiot.  

BTW you are in the right family of instruments.

I too have enjoyed this thread... but I figured that people had lost interest after the last question.  I will stick with it though.

GE-Raven
   




your not an Idiot, you just forgot. anywho, I'll give 762 a poke and see If he can answer.

stephen

TB613

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #85 on: March 19, 2004, 01:37:06 pm »
 
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 I too have enjoyed this thread... but I figured that people had lost interest after the last question. I will stick with it though.
 




I think that there are quite a few people like myself that find this thread interesting yet feel unable to contribute. Keep it going please.  

GE-Raven

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #86 on: March 24, 2004, 10:45:01 am »
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What musical instrument is St. Cecilia (Patron saint of music and composers) said to have invented?

GE-Raven
   




The answer is the Organ.

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What is the Definition for the musical term "Picardy Third"?

*Hint - it has nothing to do with Patrick Stewart

GE-Raven
 

762

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #87 on: March 24, 2004, 01:39:54 pm »
A piece in a minor key which ends in a major chord. Bach (J.S.) did it a lot.

GE-Raven

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #88 on: March 24, 2004, 05:07:03 pm »
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A piece in a minor key which ends in a major chord. Bach (J.S.) did it a lot.  




A winner!!!!


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What was a sacbut?


 

762

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #89 on: March 25, 2004, 02:17:23 pm »
Oh geez I know this one.....

um...
um...

a bassoon?

No! Wait! A trombone.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by 762 »

GE-Raven

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #90 on: March 26, 2004, 04:14:20 pm »
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Oh geez I know this one.....

um...
um...

a bassoon?

No! Wait! A trombone.




That is correct it was an early trombone (renaisannce)

Congrats man, you are on a roll...

Now a tough one for the weekend.

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In Bach's St. Matthews Passion there are many examples of Bach's use and interest in numbers.  

There is a unique musical event that is used an exact number of times in a single movement.  There are 39 quarter-notes played in a row by the Cello.  All the same pitch.  What is the significance of this event in relation to the piece?

ENJOY


 

762

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #91 on: March 26, 2004, 04:42:57 pm »
 

762

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #92 on: March 28, 2004, 09:33:29 pm »
Bump for the 39 quarter-note answer.

GE-Raven

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #93 on: March 29, 2004, 10:59:38 am »
Ok... This is a favorite of mine, so prepare to be bored.

In Bach's St. Matthew Passion in a Tenor recitative (Mvt. #34) entitled "Mein Jesus schweigt Zu falschen Lügen stille,"  The translated text is as follows:

My Jesus keeps
Amidst false lies his silence,
To show us by example
That his dear mercy's full intention
For us to suffer now inclines,
In order that within such pain
We should resemble him,
In persecution keep our silence.

Pretty standard recit...  however its consrtuction is interesting.  It is Basso Continuo PLUS a viola da gamba (now played by cello) and two oboes.  The basso continuo is also a viola da gamba and organ.  This means that the continuo has bass and chords but in this movement the chords are also outlined by the two oboes.  The second "solo" viola da gamba (cello) plays a solo line that is all one note in each of the chords.  The recitative is comprise of 10 measures of 4/4 time.  The last measure has only 3 chords to it. All the chords are the same length and a quaternote in value.   Now comes the fun "numerology" part.  The text is paraphrased from psalms chapter 39 verse 10. " Remove thy stroke from me; I am spent by the blows of thy hand."  Now follow with me.  It is also a long standing legend/myth that Jesus was whipped 39 times.  One short of the 40 that was considdered a death sentence (Death by Flaggelation).  So here we have Bach who depicts this "whipping" as 39 equally spaced "bows" of the cello.  Some times in tune, other times at dissonance with the chords around it.  Thirty-nine times for psalm 39, 10 measures for verse 10.  The text outlines his silence despite the cruelty he is subjected to.

There are literally hundreds of such "numerology" events in Bach's works.  This example is one that I especially like.

It is a bit obscure though

GE-Raven



 

Sirgod

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #94 on: March 29, 2004, 12:05:31 pm »
Obscure, that's incredible that you would even know that. I am humbled with your knowledge of things like that.  

Stephen

762

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #95 on: March 29, 2004, 12:16:36 pm »
A little too obscure!!! Interesting trivia though.

NEXT!

GE-Raven

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #96 on: March 29, 2004, 01:38:31 pm »
Fine.. I will make it easier...

Linked question

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Bach's St. Matthew Passion was not performed for over a hundred years after its 1729 performance.  A very prominent composer of the Romantic Era "re-introduced" it to the music world in 1829.  This re-introduction is creditted with sparking the fame that Bach now enjoys.  Until this performance very few composers and musicians knew Bach's music.

Who was this Composer?

 

Sirgod

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #97 on: March 29, 2004, 01:59:22 pm »
Not sure about that piece, Except That I believe It's too be performed again for the first time in 50 years somewhere in the states. I believe tennesee or Alabama. I heard It on the news recently, But I'm not sure.

Stephen

762

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #98 on: March 29, 2004, 02:46:47 pm »
 
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A very prominent composer of the Romantic Era "re-introduced" it to the music world in 1829




Ah yes - extra clues!

Could be totally wrong, but based on the date I would guess Beethoven.

What's interesting to know is that in that time period, when someone said "Bach" they were usually referring to his son.  

Uss_Defiant

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Re: GE-Raven's obscure Music Trivia thread.
« Reply #99 on: March 30, 2004, 08:21:52 pm »
Felix Mendelssohn