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JMM

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Quick math question for you math people
« on: February 27, 2004, 03:04:03 pm »
As you know I'm in Mexico for health care until my VA health records arrive in Austin and I have my Mexican records translated to be added to my VA records.

Well, I've been working on the front of the house where there are two parts full of desert soil, one part had three rosebushes, I had to kill it because some kind of strong vine was all over it and the fence, so I destroyed the bush and vine, threw it all away except for the stuff I could cut up for kindling (waste not, want not, ya know?), and planted a baby rose bush in it's place.

The other part is my big project. it's empty except for natural desert soil of Chihuahua, so what I've been doing is digging it up, destroying some kind of roots, and replacing it with black soil base, then peat moss, then Miracle Grow Enriched potting mix (hey, I'm buying Canadian and American products). I'm only one third there as I need to get the huge pile of dirt I moved to one third of the part of ground I'm working on, but I wanted to ask so I can write it down and remember when I have everything just right for three more rosebushes.

Here are the specs:

If you are facing the house, the dirt part is 13 ft across, now if you were to go towards the house it is 69 inches from the gate to the patio.

When I started this project, I did not know squat about rosebushes, but the experts who have sites on the net say 3ft or 36 inches is perfect spacing. I have 3 baby rosebushes, but if I have enough room I can add another if need be. If I use 3, what is my coordinates that I need to plant? If I have enough room for 4, what will be my coordinates for planting then?

My math skills suck, ok? It's why I could not pass pre-med after I got out of the army, and I went to work at a dealership as a customer service clerk when I took a break from college and I saw the money the techs were making so I went back to school and studied auto tech stuff.

I would appreciate it if someone who is good at math and figuring this stuff out could help me.

Hey, maybe my math sucks, but at least I know how to keep my checkbook balanced and manage Leda's money in the market for her (scottrader automatically figures all that out, so it is not like I'm really doing anything).

Thanks,

Jack  

Iceman

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2004, 04:55:31 pm »
If I'm reading this right, you have a 156x69 area to work with. (the 156 being the 13 feet across).  To maximize the distance, split the area into 3 sections.  (52x23 each).  Then plant each one in the middle of its own section.  I think.  I would check to make sure it actually holds up before you start digging.  

Sethan

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #2 on: February 27, 2004, 05:23:14 pm »
Jack, Iceman got part of it.

13 feet is 156 inches, so you have a rectangle 156" x 69" in which to plant.

Given an area of that size, you could plant two rows of 4 bushes each (though the two rows would actually be 1-1/2" closer than the 36" ideal distance).

Iceman is right about splitting the area up into chunks.  You could use 3 chunks 52" wide (and plant at the center of each, 26", 78", and 130" from one edge respectively), or if you want to plant 4 bushes, 4 chunks 39" wide each (20-1/2", 59-1/2", 98-1/2", and 137-1/2" from one edge respectively).  That only gets you even distribution in one dimension though - if you want them dead center in the other dimension, 34-1/2" from the house is where to measure.  Otherwise, you can put them near the house or away from it.

The question we don't know the answer to is what borders the area of dirt.  If it is something inhospitable to the plant, you might want to use only 2 bushes, to keep them at least 36" away from the edge.

SL-Punisher

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #3 on: February 27, 2004, 06:42:47 pm »
Seth,

There anything you don't know ?

Sethan

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #4 on: February 27, 2004, 07:17:09 pm »
Quote:

Seth,

There anything you don't know ?  




Lots.  I've been working in the computer industry for 26 years... and I'm just now getting a handle on how much I don't know about computers.  Imagine how much there is that I don't know about other stuff.  

JMM

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #5 on: February 27, 2004, 09:02:29 pm »
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH! I really mean it! The borders are simple, concrete with some swirl designs, very nice to look at but not good in a desert town like C.C. as I cannot just sweep straight and the dirt is gone, I have to sweep at different angles, but that is partly the govt.s fault, as they make the neighborhoods pay for their own streets, jeeeez.

If you were to come to the front of the house, you would see a beautiful white metal gate fence with a design in the center of each section of metal fence, the design is of a rose and part of the stem and leaves. Like I said, Leda will help me get the cam set to small kb size pics, so I'll be able to post or e-mail.

In regard to the patio and fence border? All concrete (nicely done I might add too) so plenty of room for roses with no threats nearby. I'm just changing the soil right now as I stated, you guys know me, I want it done NOW, but I just do not have the energy I used to have. It's weird, I'm realizing a lot about my illnesses that I did not realize before because I was drinking and self medicating myself. Boy, when I was on Rum and coke, I may have been drunk, but I could sure move around! Hehehehehehehe.

Thanks for the help and I'll check it out. Miguel (the engineering supervisor that works for Visteon corp, an American corp I might add) hurt his ankle and has not been at work for two days. I need his help in getting the trash cans of dirt deployed elsewhere in the city as he has a truck.

Again, thanks and I'll let ya know. I do not think two rows of bushes would be too good right now, I'm putting rich soil in but the other part of the front is one row, it might look kinda tacky having two rows?  

Iceman

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2004, 09:32:44 pm »
Quote:

Jack, Iceman got part of it.

 




If it wasn't so hard to articulate over a forum I might have been right, but eh.  Its the idea that counts.  

JMM

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2004, 09:37:42 am »
Hey, it's the thought and help that counts, I think many of us on the forums are perfectionists and prefer to do things right the FIRST TIME!  

Thanks again for the math help guys, I really do appreciate it as I live in a very nice house, and I want to show the Mexicans what gringos can do!    

JMM

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Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #8 on: February 27, 2004, 03:04:03 pm »
As you know I'm in Mexico for health care until my VA health records arrive in Austin and I have my Mexican records translated to be added to my VA records.

Well, I've been working on the front of the house where there are two parts full of desert soil, one part had three rosebushes, I had to kill it because some kind of strong vine was all over it and the fence, so I destroyed the bush and vine, threw it all away except for the stuff I could cut up for kindling (waste not, want not, ya know?), and planted a baby rose bush in it's place.

The other part is my big project. it's empty except for natural desert soil of Chihuahua, so what I've been doing is digging it up, destroying some kind of roots, and replacing it with black soil base, then peat moss, then Miracle Grow Enriched potting mix (hey, I'm buying Canadian and American products). I'm only one third there as I need to get the huge pile of dirt I moved to one third of the part of ground I'm working on, but I wanted to ask so I can write it down and remember when I have everything just right for three more rosebushes.

Here are the specs:

If you are facing the house, the dirt part is 13 ft across, now if you were to go towards the house it is 69 inches from the gate to the patio.

When I started this project, I did not know squat about rosebushes, but the experts who have sites on the net say 3ft or 36 inches is perfect spacing. I have 3 baby rosebushes, but if I have enough room I can add another if need be. If I use 3, what is my coordinates that I need to plant? If I have enough room for 4, what will be my coordinates for planting then?

My math skills suck, ok? It's why I could not pass pre-med after I got out of the army, and I went to work at a dealership as a customer service clerk when I took a break from college and I saw the money the techs were making so I went back to school and studied auto tech stuff.

I would appreciate it if someone who is good at math and figuring this stuff out could help me.

Hey, maybe my math sucks, but at least I know how to keep my checkbook balanced and manage Leda's money in the market for her (scottrader automatically figures all that out, so it is not like I'm really doing anything).

Thanks,

Jack  

Iceman

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #9 on: February 27, 2004, 04:55:31 pm »
If I'm reading this right, you have a 156x69 area to work with. (the 156 being the 13 feet across).  To maximize the distance, split the area into 3 sections.  (52x23 each).  Then plant each one in the middle of its own section.  I think.  I would check to make sure it actually holds up before you start digging.  

Sethan

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2004, 05:23:14 pm »
Jack, Iceman got part of it.

13 feet is 156 inches, so you have a rectangle 156" x 69" in which to plant.

Given an area of that size, you could plant two rows of 4 bushes each (though the two rows would actually be 1-1/2" closer than the 36" ideal distance).

Iceman is right about splitting the area up into chunks.  You could use 3 chunks 52" wide (and plant at the center of each, 26", 78", and 130" from one edge respectively), or if you want to plant 4 bushes, 4 chunks 39" wide each (20-1/2", 59-1/2", 98-1/2", and 137-1/2" from one edge respectively).  That only gets you even distribution in one dimension though - if you want them dead center in the other dimension, 34-1/2" from the house is where to measure.  Otherwise, you can put them near the house or away from it.

The question we don't know the answer to is what borders the area of dirt.  If it is something inhospitable to the plant, you might want to use only 2 bushes, to keep them at least 36" away from the edge.

SL-Punisher

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2004, 06:42:47 pm »
Seth,

There anything you don't know ?

Sethan

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2004, 07:17:09 pm »
Quote:

Seth,

There anything you don't know ?  




Lots.  I've been working in the computer industry for 26 years... and I'm just now getting a handle on how much I don't know about computers.  Imagine how much there is that I don't know about other stuff.  

JMM

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #13 on: February 27, 2004, 09:02:29 pm »
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH! I really mean it! The borders are simple, concrete with some swirl designs, very nice to look at but not good in a desert town like C.C. as I cannot just sweep straight and the dirt is gone, I have to sweep at different angles, but that is partly the govt.s fault, as they make the neighborhoods pay for their own streets, jeeeez.

If you were to come to the front of the house, you would see a beautiful white metal gate fence with a design in the center of each section of metal fence, the design is of a rose and part of the stem and leaves. Like I said, Leda will help me get the cam set to small kb size pics, so I'll be able to post or e-mail.

In regard to the patio and fence border? All concrete (nicely done I might add too) so plenty of room for roses with no threats nearby. I'm just changing the soil right now as I stated, you guys know me, I want it done NOW, but I just do not have the energy I used to have. It's weird, I'm realizing a lot about my illnesses that I did not realize before because I was drinking and self medicating myself. Boy, when I was on Rum and coke, I may have been drunk, but I could sure move around! Hehehehehehehe.

Thanks for the help and I'll check it out. Miguel (the engineering supervisor that works for Visteon corp, an American corp I might add) hurt his ankle and has not been at work for two days. I need his help in getting the trash cans of dirt deployed elsewhere in the city as he has a truck.

Again, thanks and I'll let ya know. I do not think two rows of bushes would be too good right now, I'm putting rich soil in but the other part of the front is one row, it might look kinda tacky having two rows?  

Iceman

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #14 on: February 27, 2004, 09:32:44 pm »
Quote:

Jack, Iceman got part of it.

 




If it wasn't so hard to articulate over a forum I might have been right, but eh.  Its the idea that counts.  

JMM

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #15 on: February 28, 2004, 09:37:42 am »
Hey, it's the thought and help that counts, I think many of us on the forums are perfectionists and prefer to do things right the FIRST TIME!  

Thanks again for the math help guys, I really do appreciate it as I live in a very nice house, and I want to show the Mexicans what gringos can do!    

JMM

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Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #16 on: February 27, 2004, 03:04:03 pm »
As you know I'm in Mexico for health care until my VA health records arrive in Austin and I have my Mexican records translated to be added to my VA records.

Well, I've been working on the front of the house where there are two parts full of desert soil, one part had three rosebushes, I had to kill it because some kind of strong vine was all over it and the fence, so I destroyed the bush and vine, threw it all away except for the stuff I could cut up for kindling (waste not, want not, ya know?), and planted a baby rose bush in it's place.

The other part is my big project. it's empty except for natural desert soil of Chihuahua, so what I've been doing is digging it up, destroying some kind of roots, and replacing it with black soil base, then peat moss, then Miracle Grow Enriched potting mix (hey, I'm buying Canadian and American products). I'm only one third there as I need to get the huge pile of dirt I moved to one third of the part of ground I'm working on, but I wanted to ask so I can write it down and remember when I have everything just right for three more rosebushes.

Here are the specs:

If you are facing the house, the dirt part is 13 ft across, now if you were to go towards the house it is 69 inches from the gate to the patio.

When I started this project, I did not know squat about rosebushes, but the experts who have sites on the net say 3ft or 36 inches is perfect spacing. I have 3 baby rosebushes, but if I have enough room I can add another if need be. If I use 3, what is my coordinates that I need to plant? If I have enough room for 4, what will be my coordinates for planting then?

My math skills suck, ok? It's why I could not pass pre-med after I got out of the army, and I went to work at a dealership as a customer service clerk when I took a break from college and I saw the money the techs were making so I went back to school and studied auto tech stuff.

I would appreciate it if someone who is good at math and figuring this stuff out could help me.

Hey, maybe my math sucks, but at least I know how to keep my checkbook balanced and manage Leda's money in the market for her (scottrader automatically figures all that out, so it is not like I'm really doing anything).

Thanks,

Jack  

Iceman

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #17 on: February 27, 2004, 04:55:31 pm »
If I'm reading this right, you have a 156x69 area to work with. (the 156 being the 13 feet across).  To maximize the distance, split the area into 3 sections.  (52x23 each).  Then plant each one in the middle of its own section.  I think.  I would check to make sure it actually holds up before you start digging.  

Sethan

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #18 on: February 27, 2004, 05:23:14 pm »
Jack, Iceman got part of it.

13 feet is 156 inches, so you have a rectangle 156" x 69" in which to plant.

Given an area of that size, you could plant two rows of 4 bushes each (though the two rows would actually be 1-1/2" closer than the 36" ideal distance).

Iceman is right about splitting the area up into chunks.  You could use 3 chunks 52" wide (and plant at the center of each, 26", 78", and 130" from one edge respectively), or if you want to plant 4 bushes, 4 chunks 39" wide each (20-1/2", 59-1/2", 98-1/2", and 137-1/2" from one edge respectively).  That only gets you even distribution in one dimension though - if you want them dead center in the other dimension, 34-1/2" from the house is where to measure.  Otherwise, you can put them near the house or away from it.

The question we don't know the answer to is what borders the area of dirt.  If it is something inhospitable to the plant, you might want to use only 2 bushes, to keep them at least 36" away from the edge.

SL-Punisher

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #19 on: February 27, 2004, 06:42:47 pm »
Seth,

There anything you don't know ?

Sethan

  • Guest
Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #20 on: February 27, 2004, 07:17:09 pm »
Quote:

Seth,

There anything you don't know ?  




Lots.  I've been working in the computer industry for 26 years... and I'm just now getting a handle on how much I don't know about computers.  Imagine how much there is that I don't know about other stuff.  

JMM

  • Guest
Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #21 on: February 27, 2004, 09:02:29 pm »
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH! I really mean it! The borders are simple, concrete with some swirl designs, very nice to look at but not good in a desert town like C.C. as I cannot just sweep straight and the dirt is gone, I have to sweep at different angles, but that is partly the govt.s fault, as they make the neighborhoods pay for their own streets, jeeeez.

If you were to come to the front of the house, you would see a beautiful white metal gate fence with a design in the center of each section of metal fence, the design is of a rose and part of the stem and leaves. Like I said, Leda will help me get the cam set to small kb size pics, so I'll be able to post or e-mail.

In regard to the patio and fence border? All concrete (nicely done I might add too) so plenty of room for roses with no threats nearby. I'm just changing the soil right now as I stated, you guys know me, I want it done NOW, but I just do not have the energy I used to have. It's weird, I'm realizing a lot about my illnesses that I did not realize before because I was drinking and self medicating myself. Boy, when I was on Rum and coke, I may have been drunk, but I could sure move around! Hehehehehehehe.

Thanks for the help and I'll check it out. Miguel (the engineering supervisor that works for Visteon corp, an American corp I might add) hurt his ankle and has not been at work for two days. I need his help in getting the trash cans of dirt deployed elsewhere in the city as he has a truck.

Again, thanks and I'll let ya know. I do not think two rows of bushes would be too good right now, I'm putting rich soil in but the other part of the front is one row, it might look kinda tacky having two rows?  

Iceman

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Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #22 on: February 27, 2004, 09:32:44 pm »
Quote:

Jack, Iceman got part of it.

 




If it wasn't so hard to articulate over a forum I might have been right, but eh.  Its the idea that counts.  

JMM

  • Guest
Re: Quick math question for you math people
« Reply #23 on: February 28, 2004, 09:37:42 am »
Hey, it's the thought and help that counts, I think many of us on the forums are perfectionists and prefer to do things right the FIRST TIME!  

Thanks again for the math help guys, I really do appreciate it as I live in a very nice house, and I want to show the Mexicans what gringos can do!