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Toasty0

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This is my kind of advocacy
« on: February 15, 2004, 10:06:58 am »

Gambler

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2004, 08:33:28 pm »
I didn't realize that Widescreen / Lettterbox needed an advocacy group.  I know that unless it's completely impossible I never by a full screen movie.

Toasty0

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2004, 09:03:54 pm »
Yeah, it does. There are enough of the uninformed who think the letterbox is a distraction from the film to create pressure on producers to make two versions of a dvd thus doubling their cost.

Best,
Jerry  
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ActiveX

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2004, 09:14:56 pm »
I actually prefer whatever fills up the space on the screen...

I din buy a widescreen TV, so Im not interested in watching a Widescreen movie...

When I do buy a Widescreen TV however, I will want Widescreen movies...

Maybe I hate to waste space...

Toasty0

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2004, 09:31:52 pm »
Quote:

I actually prefer whatever fills up the space on the screen...

I din buy a widescreen TV, so Im not interested in watching a Widescreen movie...

When I do buy a Widescreen TV however, I will want Widescreen movies...

Maybe I hate to waste space...  




Ahhhh...here's the rub. By demanding that the pic fill your screen DVD makers are rquired to not only re-edit the movie, but slice off part of the frame.

So what you saw in the theater and was the filmmaker's intent will not be what you will see on your pan&scan (now called full frame) DVD.

In other words you are getting cheated with that format.

Best,
Jerry  

ActiveX

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2004, 09:46:51 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

I actually prefer whatever fills up the space on the screen...

I din buy a widescreen TV, so Im not interested in watching a Widescreen movie...

When I do buy a Widescreen TV however, I will want Widescreen movies...

Maybe I hate to waste space...  




Ahhhh...here's the rub. By demanding that the pic fill your screen DVD makers are rquired to not only re-edit the movie, but slice off part of the frame.

So what you saw in the theater and was the filmmaker's intent will not be what you will see on your pan&scan (now called full frame) DVD.

In other words you are getting cheated with that format.

Best,
Jerry  




Mayhap...

but what I have always wondered is why dont they just film it in box?

TB613

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2004, 09:49:39 pm »
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I didn't realize that Widescreen / Lettterbox needed an advocacy group.  I know that unless it's completely impossible I never by a full screen movie.  




The need for such a group has declined in recent years although as recently as four or five years ago you had to look very hard to find movies in widescreen / letterbox format and then you usually paid a steep premium for the luxury. In fact it is more common now to not even have the choice of buying a movie in fullscreen / overscaned format which is just fine by me since like you Gambler I always buy the widscreen version unless there is no other option.  

SL-Punisher

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2004, 07:17:35 am »
I dont have a huge TV therefore I don't like widescreen versions.

Gambler

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2004, 08:13:58 am »
After my initial post I was flipping channels on my TV and decided that such an advocacy group is needed.  I'm a widescreen fanatic when it comes to movies and it's annoying as heck when the movie channels air the fullscreen versions vs the widescreen versions.  Even on PPV it's extremely rare to find the widescreen versions.

What's ironic is that many of the TV shows I watch now are filmed in widescreen.  But the movies aren't shown that way.

For those of you  who don't like the black bars at the top and bottom of your screen and go for the fullscreen versions of the movies,  did you check out examples page of the link above?  It's amazing how much is lopped off when it gets to the little screen.

762

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2004, 08:19:31 am »
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I dont have a huge TV therefore I don't like widescreen versions.  




You need to sit closer then.

Toasty0

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2004, 09:14:53 am »
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I dont have a huge TV therefore I don't like widescreen versions.  




For year I watched them on a 27". If you don't have that size screen Pun, then you're more mizerly(sp) than I figured.  

jualdeaux

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2004, 01:40:59 pm »
I don't have a large screen TV either but I always buy the widescreen version of a movie. I figure that when I get a proper TV I will already have the version that will work the best and not have to buy it a second time. Let's call it an investment for the future.

TB613

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2004, 02:28:21 pm »
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After my initial post I was flipping channels on my TV and decided that such an advocacy group is needed.  I'm a widescreen fanatic when it comes to movies and it's annoying as heck when the movie channels air the fullscreen versions vs the widescreen versions.  Even on PPV it's extremely rare to find the widescreen versions.

What's ironic is that many of the TV shows I watch now are filmed in widescreen.  But the movies aren't shown that way.

For those of you  who don't like the black bars at the top and bottom of your screen and go for the fullscreen versions of the movies,  did you check out examples page of the link above?  It's amazing how much is lopped off when it gets to the little screen.  




It doesn't take me very long to flip through the channels since I can only get broadcast although I need to get it (cable) hooked back up so I can see the F1 races. My job is four ten hour shifts on the afternoon shift so I watch very little prime time and cannot even tape Enterprise to see what the brouhaha is all about with it since the local channel (no UPN channel) that carries it has it only on the high-definition channel. Not being able to duplicate your experiment Gambler I will take your word for it however, I find it ironic that when you go out and buy a DVD there is quite often not a choice of fullscreen versions even at places such as K-Mart and Wal Mart which market to people generally would prefer the fullscreen version.  

ActiveX

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2004, 02:56:53 pm »
I have noticed that some DVDs sell with both versions in the same package...

EE

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2004, 05:07:25 pm »
Quote:

I actually prefer whatever fills up the space on the screen...

I din buy a widescreen TV, so Im not interested in watching a Widescreen movie...

When I do buy a Widescreen TV however, I will want Widescreen movies...

Maybe I hate to waste space...  




FULLSCREEN


WIDESCREEN


I think I will stick with widescreen only.    With fullscreen you are losing 43% of the movie.
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SL-Punisher

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2004, 12:15:21 am »
I splurge on my computer, but not on home electronics. I believe my television is a 21" or something like that. Personally I don't watch much tv. My DVD player and television were christmas presents...personally I don't go out and buy items like that.

Corbomite

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2004, 02:04:27 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

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I actually prefer whatever fills up the space on the screen...

I din buy a widescreen TV, so Im not interested in watching a Widescreen movie...

When I do buy a Widescreen TV however, I will want Widescreen movies...

Maybe I hate to waste space...  




Ahhhh...here's the rub. By demanding that the pic fill your screen DVD makers are rquired to not only re-edit the movie, but slice off part of the frame.

So what you saw in the theater and was the filmmaker's intent will not be what you will see on your pan&scan (now called full frame) DVD.

In other words you are getting cheated with that format.

Best,
Jerry  




Mayhap...

but what I have always wondered is why dont they just film it in box?  





The aspect ratio of a movie screen was around long before television was invented. TV's aspect ratio was a result of the limits of the technology at the time - cathode ray tubes needed to be square basically. Once the TV cameras were designed that way, it became the standard for televison and only recently have begun to be modified.
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Toasty0

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This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2004, 10:06:58 am »

Gambler

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2004, 08:33:28 pm »
I didn't realize that Widescreen / Lettterbox needed an advocacy group.  I know that unless it's completely impossible I never by a full screen movie.

Toasty0

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Re: This is my kind of advocacy
« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2004, 09:03:54 pm »
Yeah, it does. There are enough of the uninformed who think the letterbox is a distraction from the film to create pressure on producers to make two versions of a dvd thus doubling their cost.

Best,
Jerry  
« Last Edit: February 15, 2004, 09:04:34 pm by Toasty0 »