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Maxillius

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Something very odd...
« on: February 03, 2004, 10:53:47 pm »
Ok, so I'm d/ling iTunes from Apple and it's saying the rate is between 5.5 and 6 K/sec!!

Why is this weird?  Well, on the best days when I'm connected at 46.6kbps, the fastest I can hope for is 4.8 to 5 K/sec. and that's when I leave it alone.

I'm at 34.6kbps tonight.

Is there some sort of conspiracy used by Microsoft to keep Windows users at a slower standard, or does Apple have some sort of magic technique of ramming data down a phone line?


btw... I have 9 IE windows open too, which usually slow things down to about 2.5kbps

EE

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2004, 01:07:03 pm »
beats me. I went to DSLreports and did a bandwidth test and it says I get a 376.1 KB/sec transfer rate but I regularly download at 480k/s or higher.  

msnevil

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2004, 03:56:17 pm »
Its Reporting the top burst of speed from their computer to yours. Then the Telephone lines slow the speed down to what you are used to. The speed appears to be more since its not deregulating (slowing) its speed for your modem. (The telephone wire has deregulators that slow the speed down to Government requirements.)

summery: Its reports its top speed to you.

The only way you can speed up a modem, minus getting something else. Is go through two modems and two telephone lines. But then you pay for two modems and lines. For a measly increase of 2.5 kb\s.

There are three options you can try for faster speed in the country.

One) ISDN - Only available with special Telephone lines. Else you slow down to a modem. -twice or three *'s the cost of modem. Very reliable.
two) Wire less modem.- Available only around large radio receptor towers. -depends -depends.
three) Satellite. -Available if you have a clear skyway to the satellite. very expensive 4 *'s the cost of modem. Signal out during bad weather\solar burst's.

 

Maxillius

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2004, 09:42:28 pm »
I was d/ling iTunes, btw...  like 9 megs, and it did end up with the average d/l rate around 4.41 k/sec, but it was pretty consistently over 5.5 for half an hour.

I'm seriously looking into sattelite, but I'd keep the phone line for outages.


Ok, another question:  I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps.  Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec.  is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?
« Last Edit: February 04, 2004, 09:46:52 pm by PPDevastator »

msnevil

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2004, 12:19:10 am »
Me and I think Toasteo? have satelite conections here. If you online game forget it. If not, and you are willing to pay 70.00$ a month. (dial-up\sat) then find out about it.

http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/satellite

Ok, another question: I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps. Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec. is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?  

ooh! good question.

Q: What does KBps and Kbps mean and how do they reflect transfer speeds? (#2388)  
A: Kilobyte (KB or K) = 1024 bytes (2 ^ 10) "binary kilobyte"
kilobyte (kB) = 1000 bytes (10 ^ 3) "decimal kilobyte"

Kilobit (Kb) = 1024 bits (2 ^ 10) "binary kilobit"
kilobit (kb) = 1000 bits (10 ^ 3) "decimal kilobit"

KBps = Kilobytes (1024 bytes) per second (binary)
kBps = kilobytes (1000 bytes) per second (decimal)

Kbps = Kilobits (1024 bits) per second (binary)
kbps = kilobits (1000 bits) per second (decimal)

bps = bits per second

Most browsers and a lot of FTP programs show transfer rates in KBps (kilobytes per second). So in order to get the approximate number of Kbps (kilobits per second) you need to know that there are 8 Kb (kilobits) in every KB (kilobyte). Thus if your browser is showing that you are downloading a file at 176 KBps you would then multiply 176 times 8 which would translate to 1,408 Kbps. The reverse can be used if your transfer rate is in Kbps then you divide that number by 8 to get your rate in KBps. Example:1400 Kbps divided by 8 equals 176 KBps transfer rate.

If you wanted to know how many bps (bits per second) you are transferring, all you need to do is a straight decimal conversion. Example: 1,408 Kbps would translate to 1,408,000 bps.
 



 

Maxillius

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2004, 12:54:32 am »


See what you did???  This is all your fault.  I'm gonna fly like J'inn the rest of my life thanks to you!!

EE

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2004, 01:22:44 am »
Quote:

I was d/ling iTunes, btw...  like 9 megs, and it did end up with the average d/l rate around 4.41 k/sec, but it was pretty consistently over 5.5 for half an hour.

I'm seriously looking into sattelite, but I'd keep the phone line for outages.


Ok, another question:  I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps.  Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec.  is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?




go with cable. Using cable I downloaded 4.5 gigs worth of music today
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by EE »

vsfedwards

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #7 on: February 05, 2004, 04:40:53 am »
If its slowing right down when you have a bunch of windows open, Im guessing your on a USB modem  connection. Try connecting it with a network card instead...then I could be wrong...

Maxillius

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2004, 11:40:05 am »
you are

I'm using a standard modem, but I failed to mention that I was using all the open windows at the same time as downloading.

Oh, and EE... you suck
« Last Edit: February 05, 2004, 11:42:32 am by PPDevastator »

Maxillius

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Something very odd...
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2004, 10:53:47 pm »
Ok, so I'm d/ling iTunes from Apple and it's saying the rate is between 5.5 and 6 K/sec!!

Why is this weird?  Well, on the best days when I'm connected at 46.6kbps, the fastest I can hope for is 4.8 to 5 K/sec. and that's when I leave it alone.

I'm at 34.6kbps tonight.

Is there some sort of conspiracy used by Microsoft to keep Windows users at a slower standard, or does Apple have some sort of magic technique of ramming data down a phone line?


btw... I have 9 IE windows open too, which usually slow things down to about 2.5kbps

EE

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2004, 01:07:03 pm »
beats me. I went to DSLreports and did a bandwidth test and it says I get a 376.1 KB/sec transfer rate but I regularly download at 480k/s or higher.  

msnevil

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2004, 03:56:17 pm »
Its Reporting the top burst of speed from their computer to yours. Then the Telephone lines slow the speed down to what you are used to. The speed appears to be more since its not deregulating (slowing) its speed for your modem. (The telephone wire has deregulators that slow the speed down to Government requirements.)

summery: Its reports its top speed to you.

The only way you can speed up a modem, minus getting something else. Is go through two modems and two telephone lines. But then you pay for two modems and lines. For a measly increase of 2.5 kb\s.

There are three options you can try for faster speed in the country.

One) ISDN - Only available with special Telephone lines. Else you slow down to a modem. -twice or three *'s the cost of modem. Very reliable.
two) Wire less modem.- Available only around large radio receptor towers. -depends -depends.
three) Satellite. -Available if you have a clear skyway to the satellite. very expensive 4 *'s the cost of modem. Signal out during bad weather\solar burst's.

 

Maxillius

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2004, 09:42:28 pm »
I was d/ling iTunes, btw...  like 9 megs, and it did end up with the average d/l rate around 4.41 k/sec, but it was pretty consistently over 5.5 for half an hour.

I'm seriously looking into sattelite, but I'd keep the phone line for outages.


Ok, another question:  I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps.  Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec.  is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?
« Last Edit: February 04, 2004, 09:46:52 pm by PPDevastator »

msnevil

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2004, 12:19:10 am »
Me and I think Toasteo? have satelite conections here. If you online game forget it. If not, and you are willing to pay 70.00$ a month. (dial-up\sat) then find out about it.

http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/satellite

Ok, another question: I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps. Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec. is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?  

ooh! good question.

Q: What does KBps and Kbps mean and how do they reflect transfer speeds? (#2388)  
A: Kilobyte (KB or K) = 1024 bytes (2 ^ 10) "binary kilobyte"
kilobyte (kB) = 1000 bytes (10 ^ 3) "decimal kilobyte"

Kilobit (Kb) = 1024 bits (2 ^ 10) "binary kilobit"
kilobit (kb) = 1000 bits (10 ^ 3) "decimal kilobit"

KBps = Kilobytes (1024 bytes) per second (binary)
kBps = kilobytes (1000 bytes) per second (decimal)

Kbps = Kilobits (1024 bits) per second (binary)
kbps = kilobits (1000 bits) per second (decimal)

bps = bits per second

Most browsers and a lot of FTP programs show transfer rates in KBps (kilobytes per second). So in order to get the approximate number of Kbps (kilobits per second) you need to know that there are 8 Kb (kilobits) in every KB (kilobyte). Thus if your browser is showing that you are downloading a file at 176 KBps you would then multiply 176 times 8 which would translate to 1,408 Kbps. The reverse can be used if your transfer rate is in Kbps then you divide that number by 8 to get your rate in KBps. Example:1400 Kbps divided by 8 equals 176 KBps transfer rate.

If you wanted to know how many bps (bits per second) you are transferring, all you need to do is a straight decimal conversion. Example: 1,408 Kbps would translate to 1,408,000 bps.
 



 

Maxillius

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2004, 12:54:32 am »


See what you did???  This is all your fault.  I'm gonna fly like J'inn the rest of my life thanks to you!!

EE

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #15 on: February 05, 2004, 01:22:44 am »
Quote:

I was d/ling iTunes, btw...  like 9 megs, and it did end up with the average d/l rate around 4.41 k/sec, but it was pretty consistently over 5.5 for half an hour.

I'm seriously looking into sattelite, but I'd keep the phone line for outages.


Ok, another question:  I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps.  Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec.  is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?




go with cable. Using cable I downloaded 4.5 gigs worth of music today
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by EE »

vsfedwards

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Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2004, 04:40:53 am »
If its slowing right down when you have a bunch of windows open, Im guessing your on a USB modem  connection. Try connecting it with a network card instead...then I could be wrong...

Maxillius

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #17 on: February 05, 2004, 11:40:05 am »
you are

I'm using a standard modem, but I failed to mention that I was using all the open windows at the same time as downloading.

Oh, and EE... you suck
« Last Edit: February 05, 2004, 11:42:32 am by PPDevastator »

Maxillius

  • Guest
Something very odd...
« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2004, 10:53:47 pm »
Ok, so I'm d/ling iTunes from Apple and it's saying the rate is between 5.5 and 6 K/sec!!

Why is this weird?  Well, on the best days when I'm connected at 46.6kbps, the fastest I can hope for is 4.8 to 5 K/sec. and that's when I leave it alone.

I'm at 34.6kbps tonight.

Is there some sort of conspiracy used by Microsoft to keep Windows users at a slower standard, or does Apple have some sort of magic technique of ramming data down a phone line?


btw... I have 9 IE windows open too, which usually slow things down to about 2.5kbps

EE

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2004, 01:07:03 pm »
beats me. I went to DSLreports and did a bandwidth test and it says I get a 376.1 KB/sec transfer rate but I regularly download at 480k/s or higher.  

msnevil

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2004, 03:56:17 pm »
Its Reporting the top burst of speed from their computer to yours. Then the Telephone lines slow the speed down to what you are used to. The speed appears to be more since its not deregulating (slowing) its speed for your modem. (The telephone wire has deregulators that slow the speed down to Government requirements.)

summery: Its reports its top speed to you.

The only way you can speed up a modem, minus getting something else. Is go through two modems and two telephone lines. But then you pay for two modems and lines. For a measly increase of 2.5 kb\s.

There are three options you can try for faster speed in the country.

One) ISDN - Only available with special Telephone lines. Else you slow down to a modem. -twice or three *'s the cost of modem. Very reliable.
two) Wire less modem.- Available only around large radio receptor towers. -depends -depends.
three) Satellite. -Available if you have a clear skyway to the satellite. very expensive 4 *'s the cost of modem. Signal out during bad weather\solar burst's.

 

Maxillius

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2004, 09:42:28 pm »
I was d/ling iTunes, btw...  like 9 megs, and it did end up with the average d/l rate around 4.41 k/sec, but it was pretty consistently over 5.5 for half an hour.

I'm seriously looking into sattelite, but I'd keep the phone line for outages.


Ok, another question:  I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps.  Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec.  is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?
« Last Edit: February 04, 2004, 09:46:52 pm by PPDevastator »

msnevil

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2004, 12:19:10 am »
Me and I think Toasteo? have satelite conections here. If you online game forget it. If not, and you are willing to pay 70.00$ a month. (dial-up\sat) then find out about it.

http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/satellite

Ok, another question: I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps. Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec. is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?  

ooh! good question.

Q: What does KBps and Kbps mean and how do they reflect transfer speeds? (#2388)  
A: Kilobyte (KB or K) = 1024 bytes (2 ^ 10) "binary kilobyte"
kilobyte (kB) = 1000 bytes (10 ^ 3) "decimal kilobyte"

Kilobit (Kb) = 1024 bits (2 ^ 10) "binary kilobit"
kilobit (kb) = 1000 bits (10 ^ 3) "decimal kilobit"

KBps = Kilobytes (1024 bytes) per second (binary)
kBps = kilobytes (1000 bytes) per second (decimal)

Kbps = Kilobits (1024 bits) per second (binary)
kbps = kilobits (1000 bits) per second (decimal)

bps = bits per second

Most browsers and a lot of FTP programs show transfer rates in KBps (kilobytes per second). So in order to get the approximate number of Kbps (kilobits per second) you need to know that there are 8 Kb (kilobits) in every KB (kilobyte). Thus if your browser is showing that you are downloading a file at 176 KBps you would then multiply 176 times 8 which would translate to 1,408 Kbps. The reverse can be used if your transfer rate is in Kbps then you divide that number by 8 to get your rate in KBps. Example:1400 Kbps divided by 8 equals 176 KBps transfer rate.

If you wanted to know how many bps (bits per second) you are transferring, all you need to do is a straight decimal conversion. Example: 1,408 Kbps would translate to 1,408,000 bps.
 



 

Maxillius

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2004, 12:54:32 am »


See what you did???  This is all your fault.  I'm gonna fly like J'inn the rest of my life thanks to you!!

EE

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2004, 01:22:44 am »
Quote:

I was d/ling iTunes, btw...  like 9 megs, and it did end up with the average d/l rate around 4.41 k/sec, but it was pretty consistently over 5.5 for half an hour.

I'm seriously looking into sattelite, but I'd keep the phone line for outages.


Ok, another question:  I'm looking at my connect speed and it says it's 44.0 Kbps.  Then I look at the download window where I'm d/ling part 1 of the GAW mod for SFC3 and it says the rate of transfer is 4.27 KB/sec.  is "Kbps" kilobits per second and "KB/sec" kilobytes per second?




go with cable. Using cable I downloaded 4.5 gigs worth of music today
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by EE »

vsfedwards

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2004, 04:40:53 am »
If its slowing right down when you have a bunch of windows open, Im guessing your on a USB modem  connection. Try connecting it with a network card instead...then I could be wrong...

Maxillius

  • Guest
Re: Something very odd...
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2004, 11:40:05 am »
you are

I'm using a standard modem, but I failed to mention that I was using all the open windows at the same time as downloading.

Oh, and EE... you suck
« Last Edit: February 05, 2004, 11:42:32 am by PPDevastator »