Topic: OT-Upcoming Enterprise (B&B are bad)

[Lieutenant_Q]

Ok, Ive been one of the people that has, up to now, been satisfied with Enterprise.  Then I read this little blurb  http://www.trektoday.com/news/200203_03.shtml  and have come to the conclusion that Brannon and Braga are ruining the entire trek timeline, if they wanted to put the likes of the Ferengi and now the Borg into Enterprise, they should have made it after Voyager.  The ONLY possible explanation for this and still preserving the timeline that we know it, is that this "downed Borg ship in the artic circle" had better be the ship that Picard blew up in 2063. And if it is, how is Archer going to be able to stop them, I mean the Borg have already adapted to PHASERS, they would just laugh at those PHASE CANNONS before they blast Enterprise into oblivion.

"This is Captain Johnathan Archer of the Starship Enterprise, would you mind telling me why you've siezed one of our transport ships?"

"We are the Borg, You will be assimilated."

"Uh huh, Malcom, Phase Cannons. Target their weapons and engines."

"Locked and Ready Sir!"

"Fire!"

Enterprise fires phase cannons that just somehow break through the Borg's sheidling and destroys the entire ship.

"I thought I told you to disable them?"

"You did sir, apparently one of my junior officers has installed something called "Braga's-continuity-destroying-device" to our phase cannons.  They just went right through sheilding that should have stopped our cannons cold."

"Really? Any chance we can get them installed in our torpedoes?  We'd never have to worry about the Suliban again."

Enterprise sails away at slower than "slower than Molasses speed".


Trelane: "How fast does she go?  The old one was slower than Molasses."
Picard: "Yes we're faster than the orginal Enterprise."
Trelane: "Tally-ho!" ::Enterprise-D jumps to warp 9.4::      

[Galaxy_Class]

Oh my God... even I didn't think they had the balls to pull that one off. GodDAMN. That is just too much. WAY too much.

I had BETTER only be a rumor!

[EmeraldEdge]

Lol, so what we have to look forward to is the following teaser:

Next season on Enterprise, Worf, Data, and Odo are sent back in time by one of the factions in the temporal cold war to join the crew of the original Enterprise.  They are given strict instructions to not divulge any information on the future, unless absolutely necessary (which will happen every episode).  The Enterprise is refitted with transwarp drive, and transphasic torpedoes to help stop the coming borg onslaught.  Q will make 5 appearances, and turn out to be one of the factions in the cold war.

Admiral Janeway will be out on a diplomatic mission where she accidently guides her ship into a temporal rift driving them into an entire other quadrant and timeline.  This will seem unrelated to the main storyline, but will be used for a filler episodes as Enterprise will occasionally intercept communications from Janeway's ship as they broadcast through a rift too small to fit the ship through.  Warf, Data, and Odo, will always look at eachother uncomfortably when these communications are recieved.

The Suliban, in an attempt to win the cold war for their unseen master (who will turn out to be Captain Kirk's body reanimated, mutated into a Romulan and then assimilated into the Borg collective, captured by the Ferringi, stripped of some implants and the freed to become an Andorian freedom fighter) capture a young Spock (who has always been in love with T'Pol it turns out) to use his brain as the master control computer for a giant armada (Comprised of Suliban cell ships, and Borg ships.  These Borg are "nice" Borg and seperate from the collective and Kirk still has psychic contact with) that will destroy Vulcan and Earth in one swoop.  The Enterprise is Earth's only hope, but it's hopelessly outclassed.  

In the Season Finally, Janeways communications finally become clear.  She has found a way to enter a wormhole that will bring her right to the center of the battle between the Enterprise and the Suliban/Borg armada.  She only has 1 minute to make a second wormhole that will take her back to her own time. Fortunately, Janeway has adapted some new alien technology to her ship (a diplomatic skiff) which will allow her to destroy the alien armada in a matter of seconds, leaving enough time to beam Warf, Data, and Odo onto her ship and make the rift/wormhole.  They leave behind all their equipment in their quarters onboard Enterprise, which will be locked, except when needed (every episode).

Season Four spoiler:

Season four will have Earth scientists find and ancient civilization of Leprechauns in Ireland.  The Leprechaun's will form the backbone of the newly founded Federation.  The Leprechauns are found to have advanced technology, such as Photon torpedoes (which are obsolete due to Worf, Data, and Odo).  Their lucky charms will form the power source for the experimental "Braga Drive" system.  The Leprechauns will withdraw their membership to the Federation, and thus bring and end to the "Braga Drive" program, once they find out their pots of gold aren't worth anything anymore in the Federation era society.  They take off on magical winged horses who use their golden horns to sustain a warp field and oxygen barrier, as they travel to a new world to colonize and form a new society based solely on the idea of gold being worth a lot.  They will be seen several times (One episode where they jump Enterprise to snag the communicator badges Worf, Odo, and Data left behind, because they think they are solid gold), including a glimpse of them from the time period of Picard in which they will have evolved to have very pronounced eyebrow ridges.    

[32ndfadbKiller]

I would assume this borg ship in the artic might be the ship the Enterprise E destroyed in the movie First Contact after it traveled back in time.  The timeline would have it right(mentions a century or so which would be FC timeframe).  Now about the borgified transport mentioned in the spoiler I am not sure how that would be in there without messing with the timeline, but something from the First Contact could've crashed into the escape pod if B&B alter Trek history.(in First Contact the sphere was clearly destoryed  but seems B&B did a little rewriting here to make it so it actually crashed into the artic)

[Blyre]

Hey, maybe all these contiunuity problems are deliberate in order to justify that half-baked Temporal Cold War thing? heh

Blyre
 

[Lieutenant_Q]

I suppose since the producers of Voyager were fond of the giant reset button, i wouldnt be surprised if, by the last season, a reset button is introduced that just wiped the last 2 years (or more) out of existance.  Maybe Daniels finds out where "mystery man" is and arrests him before he gets started, so the whole thing of Klang crashing in Oklahoma never happens so Enterprise launches on time, and without T'pol. and the rest is hisotry    

[Johanobesus]

Quote:
Lol, so what we have to look forward to is the following teaser:

Next season on Enterprise, Worf, Data, and Odo are sent back in time by one of the factions in the temporal cold war to join the crew of the original Enterprise.  They are given strict instructions to not divulge any information on the future, unless absolutely necessary (which will happen every episode).  The Enterprise is refitted with transwarp drive, and transphasic torpedoes to help stop the coming borg onslaught.  Q will make 5 appearances, and turn out to be one of the factions in the cold war.

Admiral Janeway will be out on a diplomatic mission where she accidently guides her ship into a temporal rift driving them into an entire other quadrant and timeline.  This will seem unrelated to the main storyline, but will be used for a filler episodes as Enterprise will occasionally intercept communications from Janeway's ship as they broadcast through a rift too small to fit the ship through.  Warf, Data, and Odo, will always look at eachother uncomfortably when these communications are recieved.

The Suliban, in an attempt to win the cold war for their unseen master (who will turn out to be Captain Kirk's body reanimated, mutated into a Romulan and then assimilated into the Borg collective, captured by the Ferringi, stripped of some implants and the freed to become an Andorian freedom fighter) capture a young Spock (who has always been in love with T'Pol it turns out) to use his brain as the master control computer for a giant armada (Comprised of Suliban cell ships, and Borg ships.  These Borg are "nice" Borg and seperate from the collective and Kirk still has psychic contact with) that will destroy Vulcan and Earth in one swoop.  The Enterprise is Earth's only hope, but it's hopelessly outclassed.  

In the Season Finally, Janeways communications finally become clear.  She has found a way to enter a wormhole that will bring her right to the center of the battle between the Enterprise and the Suliban/Borg armada.  She only has 1 minute to make a second wormhole that will take her back to her own time. Fortunately, Janeway has adapted some new alien technology to her ship (a diplomatic skiff) which will allow her to destroy the alien armada in a matter of seconds, leaving enough time to beam Warf, Data, and Odo onto her ship and make the rift/wormhole.  They leave behind all their equipment in their quarters onboard Enterprise, which will be locked, except when needed (every episode).

The sad thing is, it sounds so plausible.  I can actually see them doing that.    

[roughneck]

Quote:

 Q will make 5 appearances, and turn out to be one of the factions in the cold war.

I actually like the idea of a Q being behind the cold war. If they truely exsist on a another plane of exsistance it would be very difficult for people to understand their motives. Perhaps they have been guiding all species in the Star Trek universe. Sorta like the Vorlon and Shadows from B5. Each Q has his/her own interpretation about how the lesser species should evolve.

I think there are a lot more avenues for Enterprise, but they just don't use them because????

What about the Iocians (TOS - Piece of the Action)?
Or that Trelane creature. What if here were behind the temporal cold war. Playing both sides to get back at humanity and Kirk for ruining his childhood play.

   

[Speaker to Animals]

How unfortunate if this is true.  It only shows that the writers and producers of Enterprise have no sense of originality.  I also see this fact in that they didn't have the guts to show what a Tholian actually looked like in Future Tense.  Kind of a disappointment, especially with what they could have done with CGI.

Speaker to Animals  

[La'ra]

Quote:
How unfortunate if this is true.  It only shows that the writers and producers of Enterprise have no sense of originality.  I also see this fact in that they didn't have the guts to show what a Tholian actually looked like in Future Tense.  Kind of a disappointment, especially with what they could have done with CGI.

Speaker to Animals  

I wouldn't have shown you what they look like yet either.

Build the anticipation for when you finally DO show your audience the cool alien.  

[Lieutenant_Q]

Ok, Ive been one of the people that has, up to now, been satisfied with Enterprise.  Then I read this little blurb  http://www.trektoday.com/news/200203_03.shtml  and have come to the conclusion that Brannon and Braga are ruining the entire trek timeline, if they wanted to put the likes of the Ferengi and now the Borg into Enterprise, they should have made it after Voyager.  The ONLY possible explanation for this and still preserving the timeline that we know it, is that this "downed Borg ship in the artic circle" had better be the ship that Picard blew up in 2063. And if it is, how is Archer going to be able to stop them, I mean the Borg have already adapted to PHASERS, they would just laugh at those PHASE CANNONS before they blast Enterprise into oblivion.

"This is Captain Johnathan Archer of the Starship Enterprise, would you mind telling me why you've siezed one of our transport ships?"

"We are the Borg, You will be assimilated."

"Uh huh, Malcom, Phase Cannons. Target their weapons and engines."

"Locked and Ready Sir!"

"Fire!"

Enterprise fires phase cannons that just somehow break through the Borg's sheidling and destroys the entire ship.

"I thought I told you to disable them?"

"You did sir, apparently one of my junior officers has installed something called "Braga's-continuity-destroying-device" to our phase cannons.  They just went right through sheilding that should have stopped our cannons cold."

"Really? Any chance we can get them installed in our torpedoes?  We'd never have to worry about the Suliban again."

Enterprise sails away at slower than "slower than Molasses speed".


Trelane: "How fast does she go?  The old one was slower than Molasses."
Picard: "Yes we're faster than the orginal Enterprise."
Trelane: "Tally-ho!" ::Enterprise-D jumps to warp 9.4::      

[Galaxy_Class]

Oh my God... even I didn't think they had the balls to pull that one off. GodDAMN. That is just too much. WAY too much.

I had BETTER only be a rumor!

[EmeraldEdge]

Lol, so what we have to look forward to is the following teaser:

Next season on Enterprise, Worf, Data, and Odo are sent back in time by one of the factions in the temporal cold war to join the crew of the original Enterprise.  They are given strict instructions to not divulge any information on the future, unless absolutely necessary (which will happen every episode).  The Enterprise is refitted with transwarp drive, and transphasic torpedoes to help stop the coming borg onslaught.  Q will make 5 appearances, and turn out to be one of the factions in the cold war.

Admiral Janeway will be out on a diplomatic mission where she accidently guides her ship into a temporal rift driving them into an entire other quadrant and timeline.  This will seem unrelated to the main storyline, but will be used for a filler episodes as Enterprise will occasionally intercept communications from Janeway's ship as they broadcast through a rift too small to fit the ship through.  Warf, Data, and Odo, will always look at eachother uncomfortably when these communications are recieved.

The Suliban, in an attempt to win the cold war for their unseen master (who will turn out to be Captain Kirk's body reanimated, mutated into a Romulan and then assimilated into the Borg collective, captured by the Ferringi, stripped of some implants and the freed to become an Andorian freedom fighter) capture a young Spock (who has always been in love with T'Pol it turns out) to use his brain as the master control computer for a giant armada (Comprised of Suliban cell ships, and Borg ships.  These Borg are "nice" Borg and seperate from the collective and Kirk still has psychic contact with) that will destroy Vulcan and Earth in one swoop.  The Enterprise is Earth's only hope, but it's hopelessly outclassed.  

In the Season Finally, Janeways communications finally become clear.  She has found a way to enter a wormhole that will bring her right to the center of the battle between the Enterprise and the Suliban/Borg armada.  She only has 1 minute to make a second wormhole that will take her back to her own time. Fortunately, Janeway has adapted some new alien technology to her ship (a diplomatic skiff) which will allow her to destroy the alien armada in a matter of seconds, leaving enough time to beam Warf, Data, and Odo onto her ship and make the rift/wormhole.  They leave behind all their equipment in their quarters onboard Enterprise, which will be locked, except when needed (every episode).

Season Four spoiler:

Season four will have Earth scientists find and ancient civilization of Leprechauns in Ireland.  The Leprechaun's will form the backbone of the newly founded Federation.  The Leprechauns are found to have advanced technology, such as Photon torpedoes (which are obsolete due to Worf, Data, and Odo).  Their lucky charms will form the power source for the experimental "Braga Drive" system.  The Leprechauns will withdraw their membership to the Federation, and thus bring and end to the "Braga Drive" program, once they find out their pots of gold aren't worth anything anymore in the Federation era society.  They take off on magical winged horses who use their golden horns to sustain a warp field and oxygen barrier, as they travel to a new world to colonize and form a new society based solely on the idea of gold being worth a lot.  They will be seen several times (One episode where they jump Enterprise to snag the communicator badges Worf, Odo, and Data left behind, because they think they are solid gold), including a glimpse of them from the time period of Picard in which they will have evolved to have very pronounced eyebrow ridges.    

[32ndfadbKiller]

I would assume this borg ship in the artic might be the ship the Enterprise E destroyed in the movie First Contact after it traveled back in time.  The timeline would have it right(mentions a century or so which would be FC timeframe).  Now about the borgified transport mentioned in the spoiler I am not sure how that would be in there without messing with the timeline, but something from the First Contact could've crashed into the escape pod if B&B alter Trek history.(in First Contact the sphere was clearly destoryed  but seems B&B did a little rewriting here to make it so it actually crashed into the artic)

[Blyre]

Hey, maybe all these contiunuity problems are deliberate in order to justify that half-baked Temporal Cold War thing? heh

Blyre
 

[Lieutenant_Q]

I suppose since the producers of Voyager were fond of the giant reset button, i wouldnt be surprised if, by the last season, a reset button is introduced that just wiped the last 2 years (or more) out of existance.  Maybe Daniels finds out where "mystery man" is and arrests him before he gets started, so the whole thing of Klang crashing in Oklahoma never happens so Enterprise launches on time, and without T'pol. and the rest is hisotry    

[Johanobesus]

Quote:
Lol, so what we have to look forward to is the following teaser:

Next season on Enterprise, Worf, Data, and Odo are sent back in time by one of the factions in the temporal cold war to join the crew of the original Enterprise.  They are given strict instructions to not divulge any information on the future, unless absolutely necessary (which will happen every episode).  The Enterprise is refitted with transwarp drive, and transphasic torpedoes to help stop the coming borg onslaught.  Q will make 5 appearances, and turn out to be one of the factions in the cold war.

Admiral Janeway will be out on a diplomatic mission where she accidently guides her ship into a temporal rift driving them into an entire other quadrant and timeline.  This will seem unrelated to the main storyline, but will be used for a filler episodes as Enterprise will occasionally intercept communications from Janeway's ship as they broadcast through a rift too small to fit the ship through.  Warf, Data, and Odo, will always look at eachother uncomfortably when these communications are recieved.

The Suliban, in an attempt to win the cold war for their unseen master (who will turn out to be Captain Kirk's body reanimated, mutated into a Romulan and then assimilated into the Borg collective, captured by the Ferringi, stripped of some implants and the freed to become an Andorian freedom fighter) capture a young Spock (who has always been in love with T'Pol it turns out) to use his brain as the master control computer for a giant armada (Comprised of Suliban cell ships, and Borg ships.  These Borg are "nice" Borg and seperate from the collective and Kirk still has psychic contact with) that will destroy Vulcan and Earth in one swoop.  The Enterprise is Earth's only hope, but it's hopelessly outclassed.  

In the Season Finally, Janeways communications finally become clear.  She has found a way to enter a wormhole that will bring her right to the center of the battle between the Enterprise and the Suliban/Borg armada.  She only has 1 minute to make a second wormhole that will take her back to her own time. Fortunately, Janeway has adapted some new alien technology to her ship (a diplomatic skiff) which will allow her to destroy the alien armada in a matter of seconds, leaving enough time to beam Warf, Data, and Odo onto her ship and make the rift/wormhole.  They leave behind all their equipment in their quarters onboard Enterprise, which will be locked, except when needed (every episode).

The sad thing is, it sounds so plausible.  I can actually see them doing that.    

[roughneck]

Quote:

 Q will make 5 appearances, and turn out to be one of the factions in the cold war.

I actually like the idea of a Q being behind the cold war. If they truely exsist on a another plane of exsistance it would be very difficult for people to understand their motives. Perhaps they have been guiding all species in the Star Trek universe. Sorta like the Vorlon and Shadows from B5. Each Q has his/her own interpretation about how the lesser species should evolve.

I think there are a lot more avenues for Enterprise, but they just don't use them because????

What about the Iocians (TOS - Piece of the Action)?
Or that Trelane creature. What if here were behind the temporal cold war. Playing both sides to get back at humanity and Kirk for ruining his childhood play.

   

[Speaker to Animals]

How unfortunate if this is true.  It only shows that the writers and producers of Enterprise have no sense of originality.  I also see this fact in that they didn't have the guts to show what a Tholian actually looked like in Future Tense.  Kind of a disappointment, especially with what they could have done with CGI.

Speaker to Animals  

[La'ra]

Quote:
How unfortunate if this is true.  It only shows that the writers and producers of Enterprise have no sense of originality.  I also see this fact in that they didn't have the guts to show what a Tholian actually looked like in Future Tense.  Kind of a disappointment, especially with what they could have done with CGI.

Speaker to Animals  

I wouldn't have shown you what they look like yet either.

Build the anticipation for when you finally DO show your audience the cool alien.