Topic: Kitbash Request  (Read 3456 times)

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Kaenyne

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Kitbash Request
« on: January 23, 2004, 09:12:47 am »
I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me out.

I was thinking that Mackie's Galahad would look cool as a variant with P81's Excalibur warp nacelles.

And, if possible, changing the name to U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-A?

It would be part of my own alternate universe idea...

Can someone help out a modeling igoramus?  
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 06:00:00 pm by Kaenyne »

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2004, 10:54:01 pm »
Bump!

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2004, 09:57:01 am »
Whereabouts can one grab the Excaliber from?  If it's just a swap of nacelles on the Galahad, I should still have the registry templates set up for it, so it wouldn't take more than about 30 minutes tops.  And I need to finish off some registry work today anyways before I go in to work.  

As long as this is a personal ship and not a general release?  Or is this going to be for general release?

Rogue

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2004, 11:35:44 am »
http://www.nightsoftware.com/starforce/SFC/p81fcx%2EZIP

I think this is likely to be the P81's FCX.
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Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2004, 04:39:24 pm »
Hey Atheorhaven!  

Thank you so much for doing this!

I know you have a lot on your plat, so I'm really flattered you'll be taking the time to crank out a kitbash.

The P81's FCX and Excalibur are the same ship and both names are used interchangeably around here. I believe he made this ship as one of the concepts for the stock FCX we all have in game.
She's a real beauty!
 

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2004, 07:06:11 pm »
Quote:

Hey Atheorhaven!  

Thank you so much for doing this!

I know you have a lot on your plat, so I'm really flattered you'll be taking the time to crank out a kitbash.

The P81's FCX and Excalibur are the same ship and both names are used interchangeably around here. I believe he made this ship as one of the concepts for the stock FCX we all have in game.
She's a real beauty!
 




Have them both on the HD now.. unexpectedly had some extra time tonight.. so np..

And you asked nicely without demanding, it's a small job for me, and I don't mind helping you out.  

Just keep in mind that this is a private ship for you only.. if you want to release it later on, you'll have to get permission from all involved, but on your own system only, then np.  

edit:  how's this for turnaround?  The mesh work is done.. just the textures to go.

Didn't know if you wanted the nacelles alone done, or the pylons and nacelles as an intergrated unit, so did both:

Perspective shots to show the difference..



Shot from the left side



Shot from the top



And from the front..



So which do you like/want of these two?  "A" version (nacelle and pylon replaced) is the top of the sets, "B" version (nacelle replaced only) is the lower of the set.  Did no texture work as of yet, as I'd mentioned.. this was just to establish which one to work on.  
« Last Edit: January 26, 2004, 08:13:03 pm by atheorhaven »

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2004, 09:27:19 pm »
Woohoo!

You are the MAN!

I'm in piggie heaven right now!

You have no idea how cool this is for me!

Now, the hard part--choosing which one I like best.

After looking at both over and over again, I think version "B" wins by a nosehair.

And it is also the more accurate of the idea I had in mind (only replacing nacelles).

So I choose door "B".

Thank you SO MUCH!

(and she'll only be in my game, NP there!)  

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2004, 09:45:09 pm »
Quote:


You have no idea how cool this is for me!





Actually, yes I do.  Way back when I first started, I placed a request and Captain Starkiller helped me out with it.  And the end result of his initial efforts and my subsequent work on it is my own personal ingame flagship.  

It's that little Connie job that you see from time to time dogging along behind the latest ship that I'm working on, or testing.  I've done better stuff since then, but nothing gets me like my own personal flagship.  I love that ship.  

Quote:


Now, the hard part--choosing which one I like best.
After looking at both over and over again, I think version "B" wins by a nosehair.
And it is also the more accurate of the idea I had in mind (only replacing nacelles).
So I choose door "B".





"B" it is then.. I'll expunge the other from existence.  (grin).

Quote:


Thank you SO MUCH!
(and she'll only be in my game, NP there!)    




np, and glad that I can help on this.  This also helps me out because it uses textures of p81's that I've not used before, so I get to create blanks.  And I need these for two other projects in my list to complete them as well.. so refining the texture blanks on your ship means I have them for the others.  
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atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2004, 03:44:55 am »
Okay, blanks are created, so now I can do this.  



Then it'll be seeing how the mesh and textures go together.. (on my texturing machine right now, and the mesh is on my wife's machine.  So that's to be done after sleep.  

On the other hand, I now have to see all the FDN?.BMP files that p81 created now to find the match for the lower saucer on the other project I was creating blanks for.. but this won't affect your ship.  

Which reminds me.. seeing that you chose the "B" version, I had one of the mod creators email me and ask to include the ship in the next version.  I'm not going to add in yours because that'll give you a ship that's totally unique.  But if you don't mind too much, the "A" version is still currently around and could be sent over to help him out with the mod.  Then everyone can enjoy the ship, and still give you one that's unique.  And then there's checking on Mackie's permissions and seeing if he'd mind if someone released a kb of his kb.  

Don't think he minds at all, but should still ask him anyways of course..
« Last Edit: January 27, 2004, 03:49:15 am by atheorhaven »

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2004, 04:36:43 pm »
Oh wow!

She's coming along beautfully!

I LOVE seeing her name and registry attached to that glorious hull!

As for using the "A" version for that mod, sure! I think you should share the wealth!  

(And I just might pick up that "A" version myself at some point. After all, I think she's pretty much as cool as my soon-to-be personal Enterprise A!  

You're awesome man!

P.S. A while back I asked Mackie for permission ahead of time to do bashes, retextures, etc. of the Galahad. (actually, I kinda pestered him   ) and he gave me and others such as Captain Ron the go-ahead.

Azel

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2004, 05:26:44 pm »

As always Alec,
Astounding work
 

Not to crash the thread...but Alec, any eta on the TMP Reyes???
 

sandman69247

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2004, 06:17:23 pm »
Geez, what you whip out in a a little spare time takes me days. Just look at poor Azel, waiting for....2 months? for his Independence to be finished.

Oh well, great lookin' stuff Alec, as usual.  

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2004, 01:15:05 pm »
Bumpin' 'cause I'm EXTREMELY excited about this project!

(As if you didn't already know that...)  

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2004, 05:30:10 am »
Okay, it's done (at the expense of some sleep).  

But the final size after I finished off making the textures (at all 1024) is 16MB.

PM me and we'll see how to get this to you.  

Captain Ron

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2004, 01:45:39 pm »
I can already tell you that one Alec,

break it up into smaller chunks (under a meg) or upload it to a site and let him download it. Been there before!

Got yourself a nice ship there now.

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2004, 03:19:16 pm »
The file size on this one (as I just mentioned in email) is because all the main textures that he's getting on his personal ship are going to be 1024s.  And they look really really pretty.  

I'll try to get a render on it either tonight when I get home from work, or else overnight/tomorrow.  But for the "A" version, I'll be going mostly with the stock sizes on most of the textures.  Simply for two reasons.. downloadable file size of the finished ship, and also because then Kaeyne gets a really unique ship.  

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2004, 10:24:02 pm »
Okay guys.. here's what Kaenyne is getting.  





And here's a closeup showing a bit more the new level of detail on this puppy..


Think he's going to enjoy it..

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2004, 11:16:03 pm »
Oh wow. I mean wow!
Now I see what you really mean by detailed.

I'm so freakin' ecstatic right now.

Thank you Thank you Thank you!!

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2004, 11:21:27 pm »
np.. and here's entirely the reason why I helped you out..

Quote:

I was wondering if someone would be willing to help me out.
I was thinking that Mackie's Galahad would look cool as a variant with P81's Excalibur warp nacelles.
And, if possible, changing the name to U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701-A?
It would be part of my own alternate universe idea...
Can someone help out a modeling igoramus?




You asked nicely.

That was one of the reasons why I started doing things here.. I found it a sharp contrast from a lot of places in MeatSpace.  
« Last Edit: January 31, 2004, 11:25:01 pm by atheorhaven »

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2004, 11:31:58 pm »
I'm glad I could inspire.

This is a great place, isn't it?  

Azel

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2004, 11:40:34 pm »
Aye, Mates
Its the greatest community I know of
Thats why I take anyones request into consideration
and do them...I love to give back

BTW Alec...Awesome as usual
truely superb  

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2004, 01:15:42 am »
I tried doing that one time, changing the names of a starship, damn, I found it hard, I was foolowing someones tutorial lol forgot whose, but it was fun, I still need lots of practice, especially when putting the red outline around the letters, thats kewl


adam out

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2004, 01:19:01 am »
Hey, I finally know how to take screenshots using the taldren modviewer, but Im having trouble finding background wallpaper like starts, nebulas, asteroid belts and etc..., where can I get that stuff at

thanks

adam out

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2004, 04:02:57 am »
There are two people to thank on this one... I just cobbled together the pieces.  p81 for the original work, Mackie for the original Galahad kb (and for supplying me with the missing saucer texture I needed).  The work I did involved reworking textures a bit to bring them up to 1024, swapping nacelles, and doing the registries.

But those two are the artists.  

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2004, 04:13:31 am »
Besides the stock NASA stuff, you're kind of left to create your own.

If you have moderate skill with ModViewer and a paint proggie, here's what you can do.

a) Load a planet in ModViewer from SFC.  Get it the right size and take a screen cap.
b) Pull in into a paint program and change all the VB-like blue to black.  Save.
c) Load a ship into ModViewer.  Arrange it so that it looks solid, no holes in the shape.  Cap.
d) Change the blue to black.  Now you want to select everything except the ship.
e) Go back to your planet. Copy. Go back to your shape.  Paste into Selection.
f) If all goes well, you have a planet behind your ship.

There are other ways as well, but this is a good basic method.  

Or try Universe and/or Terragen...those are good tools as well..

nx_adam_1701

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2004, 05:18:40 am »
kool how about stars

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2004, 11:32:34 am »
Hey Atheorhaven!

I just wanted to bug ya about procuring the Enterprise.

How do you suppose we should handle this?

I believe I've mentioned this to you before, but I do have a 56k connection, which is a bummer when trying to snag a 15meg file. It's doable, just takes a while...

 

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2004, 02:20:15 am »
Okay, I've been thinking about this.. what size file is good for you on a normal download?

Once I know, I'll split the file into parts (maybe by 2 textures and mod files then 3 textures, etc)... and then send you the links to those..

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2004, 07:08:54 am »
Hey Atheorhaven!

I'd say on a good day I can download between 5-6 meg files at a time in under half an hour.

So I guess that would equate to splitting up Enterprise into perhaps three separate downloads?

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2004, 03:35:40 pm »
You bet... that's exactly what it'd mean.  I have some time potentially tomorrow to do this, so I'll split the file into three tonight and then send you the links to each part via email.  Just let me know when you have it so I can delete it off the server.  

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #30 on: February 06, 2004, 04:23:00 pm »
Alright!

I'll be looking for 'em!    

Captain Ron

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2004, 05:13:04 pm »
Guys if you want I can act as a inbetween and upload to my site. I will not put a direct link to it, so it will not be available for download. I can then send the download link to Kaenyne, and he can get it at his leizsure.

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2004, 07:55:50 pm »
Hey Captain!

That's very nice of you!

If it's convenient for 'haven, I dig it too!  

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #33 on: February 08, 2004, 03:09:38 am »
That shouldn't actually be a problem... what I'll do is upload it to one of the two servers I have access to, and then send the links over.  The delay has been due to the lack of time I've had lately... I was planning on doing that today, but we got a babysitter at the last minute and my wife then dragged me along on a night of togetherness and music and all that junk.    

I'll try to get it up there in the afternoon tomorrow.. I did notice a small area on one of the pylons that needed a fix, so that'll be a few minutes in the morning before I repack it...

Kaenyne

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2004, 07:25:23 am »
Hey, family first!  

Okey Dokey!  I'll be waiting for those links!

 

atheorhaven

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Re: Kitbash Request
« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2004, 02:03:46 am »
Okay, finally.. you have a PM.