Topic: The Vampire Lestat

[Marauth]

Eew. No offence - 'tis a fine model, but that deflector on the saucer looks frankly ridiculous - please use the WADE units off of Atra's ships if you can get ahold of them, they're flat rectangular emitters curved to fit a saucer. It'd look much more convincing.

Also If you use the Oriskany, please remember to remove the blue rings around the registry as they denote it as being a carrier (took it from the stock Taldren carrier)

[Dizzy]

Yeah, but as mentioned above, TMP sensor dish becomes the 'swiss army knife' do it all device.

But you get the idea. Change the color or something...

[FireSoul]

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Eew. No offence - 'tis a fine model, but that deflector on the saucer looks frankly ridiculous - please use the WADE units off of Atra's ships if you can get ahold of them, they're flat rectangular emitters curved to fit a saucer. It'd look much more convincing.

Also If you use the Oriskany, please remember to remove the blue rings around the registry as they denote it as being a carrier (took it from the stock Taldren carrier)  

If he's making a GSC, he wants to KEEP those rings. The GSC comes with 2 fighters, (and 8 shuttles). During wartime, it would act as a CVL with 6 fighters (and 4 shuttles). It would actually be quite accurate.

[Dizzy]

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Eew. No offence - 'tis a fine model, but that deflector on the saucer looks frankly ridiculous - please use the WADE units off of Atra's ships if you can get ahold of them, they're flat rectangular emitters curved to fit a saucer. It'd look much more convincing.
 

I know... I'd rather stick with my idea on the very 1st post of this thread. Just offering ideas. I said above that it was hard for me to envision sensor dishes on the saucer. Just looks weird imo.

 

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Also If you use the Oriskany, please remember to remove the blue rings around the registry as they denote it as being a carrier (took it from the stock Taldren carrier)  

Not sure what you mean. And are you saying you will leave someone else to do the alteration rather than you?

[FireSoul]

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Not sure what you mean. And are you saying you will leave someone else to do the alteration rather than you?  

See above. I find the GSC to qualify.

[Dizzy]

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If he's making a GSC, he wants to KEEP those rings. The GSC comes with 2 fighters, (and 8 shuttles). During wartime, it would act as a CVL with 6 fighters (and 4 shuttles). It would actually be quite accurate.  

Ya, thats fine, but you'd basically be using a standard CA mesh. Just adding the sensor arrays to the saucer. But are you talking about using TOS looking dishes on TMP ship? Thats ugly.




EDIT: For TMP GSC, I'd still want altered the Oriskany and have 2x sensor dishes front and aft on the secondary hull like in my very 1st post, and 4x mini-dishes on the saucer. 8x shuttles ad 4x ftrs shouldnt be comming out of 1 bay, imo which is why I'd like to see the Oriskany used with my aft hull side bay doors.

[Thu11s]

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I thought the 'normal' sensors on the TMP consitution were on the under side of the dish in the middle (the nipple like thingy) and the big blue thing strapped on the hull was the deflector array, used for deflecting tiny space dust particles etc (kinda nasty at warp speeds impacting on the hull me thinks!) although later becoming starfleets swiss army knife/can do all in the Trek films

Also, why would a starships have a defelctor dish on the rear?? always wondered that. I guess in theory they could go backwards as fast as they can go forwards, but why would you, handy for retrograding I presume....
 

Good lord, quoting myself!

The blue dish is the Deflector array "used for deflecting tiny space dust particles etc" hence my comment of "why would a starships have a defelctor dish on the rear?? " . The writers of Trek films  and TNG episodes made the deflector array "starfleets swiss army knife/can do all" when they decided it could emit a powerful beam to simulate some blah de blah to thingy whatsit inside the stream thingy in ST Generations. Also, in first contact the borg were reprogramming the Ent-E's array to contact the Borg in the past. Add to that countless TNG episodes were Geordie (again) saves the day by reconfigering the array to emit whos knows what to zap the enemy with ice cream for all the differene it makes. You soon get the idea.

The sensors (as far as i know) were positioned on the underside of the dish:

 

(correct me if I'm wrong, I heard that somewhere....)

I think where the confusion lies is with the TOS GSC. All Fed TOS ships have this great big bronzy coloured deflector array that looks like a radar dish. The GSC has 4 smaller bronzy coloured radar dish's around the main Disc, these are the special sensors. By TMP, the Defelctor array is blue (mainly, I know its a kinda bronze/orange in the original film) and the sensors seem to be dome like, well, blobs really, stuck on the disc. Kinda like the difference between a normal radar dish (nowadays) and the giant golf ball looking ones that look more modern. No idea if they are, but they look it  Hence my idea of using the Constellations disc on a Conny hull as it already has all the blobs on it. As for those two large ones at the back of the disc your guess is as good as mine!
 
Thu11s  

[Marauth]

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If he's making a GSC, he wants to KEEP those rings. The GSC comes with 2 fighters, (and 8 shuttles). During wartime, it would act as a CVL with 6 fighters (and 4 shuttles). It would actually be quite accurate.  

Ya, thats fine, but you'd basically be using a standard CA mesh. Just adding the sensor arrays to the saucer. But are you talking about using TOS looking dishes on TMP ship? Thats ugly.




EDIT: For TMP GSC, I'd still want altered the Oriskany and have 2x sensor dishes front and aft on the secondary hull like in my very 1st post, and 4x mini-dishes on the saucer. 8x shuttles ad 4x ftrs shouldnt be comming out of 1 bay, imo which is why I'd like to see the Oriskany used with my aft hull side bay doors.  

Right, fine if you keep things on the saucer, but please don't use deflector arrays - they just look ugly there. Use the mesh from the WADE units on Atra's late TOS ships - they're just a raised rectangular section of hull that has glowing emitter thingies on them. Trust me it'd look much better.

Oh and yes I'm leaving the alteration to someone else as I have exams right now that are 40% of my first year - don't have that much time to mod or play games.

[Fury_of_a_Seraph]

Here is my TMP spin on the GSC. This is a quick WIP, so bear with me.
   

[FireSoul]

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Here is my TMP spin on the GSC. This is a quick WIP, so bear with me.
   

Ohh. I like it.
It definitely fits in the TMP era while making clear SOMETHING is installed there, most probably special sensors.
 

[Kaenyne]

Lookin' good, sir!

She's turning out to be a fine addition to the fleet!

[Dizzy]

Thats good.

 

[atheorhaven]

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The blue dish is the Deflector array "used for deflecting tiny space dust particles etc" hence my comment of "why would a starships have a defelctor dish on the rear?? " . The writers of Trek films  and TNG episodes made the deflector array "starfleets swiss army knife/can do all" when they decided it could emit a powerful beam to simulate some
blah de blah to thingy whatsit inside the stream thingy
in ST Generations. Also, in first contact the borg were reprogramming the Ent-E's array to contact the Borg in the past. Add to that countless TNG episodes were Geordie (again) saves the day by reconfigering the array to emit whos knows what to zap the enemy with ice cream for all the differene it makes. You soon get the idea.

This *so* reminds me of a song titled "USS Make Some Sh*t Up" by a group called Cabaret Voltaire that has a bouncy little chorus that goes:

"Bounce a graviton particle beam, off the main deflector dish,
That's the way we do things lad, we're making sh*t up as we wish,
The Klingons and the Romulans, they are no threat to us,
'Cause if we find, we're in a bind, we'll just make some sh*t up."

If you've ever used a music sharing program and want a good laugh while you're modding, check them out.. these guys have some good stuff.  And the way that the lead singer starts off like Shatner in this song is priceless.  I'd love to see these guys locally.

(Additional good listening in the same lines by these guys: "Screw The Ocampa", "Sexy Data Tango" (more adult, but fun), and think it's called "Worf's Klingon Bat'Leth Rap".  I intially found these guys looking for some Goth music and stumbled across their "Screw the Ocampa" song).

"We were in the Badlands one day, with Be'Lanna and Chakotay,
We were whisked into the Delta Quadrant, fu*k that's far away..
I wanna go home, please let me go home..
I say Screw The Ocampa, I wanna go home".

Yeah, only marginally on topic, but their "USS Make Some Sh*t Up" song so pokes fun at the usual technobabble on Trek that it's worth a listen to.  ;D

[FireSoul]

Just so you know, I'll be waiting impatiently for this one.

[Dizzy]

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Here is my TMP spin on the GSC. This is a quick WIP, so bear with me.
   

Just so you know, I'll be waiting impatiently for this one.  

Ditto!

[Dizzy]

any progress yet?

[Fury_of_a_Seraph]

Not yet, i got carried away on the Excelsior Fleet
Ill get back to it after Midterms i think

[Dizzy]

bump!

[Bernard Guignard]

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Hows this....

 
 
 
 

Made from P81's conny and Cleeve's Constellation (pretty sure its his)

What you think, suit your needs?

Thu11s    

I like this also please release this  

[SSCF_LeRoy]

Those "blobs" on the hull of the Constellation would actually be referred to as blisters.