Topic: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread  (Read 18761 times)

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Age

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #80 on: April 05, 2004, 12:07:17 pm »
  How about your WebSite Klingonstasis.ca are you still keeping that lets all hope.I hope you enjoy your new place FireSoul I now it is pain to move but after that you can just sit back and be comfortable agian.  

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #81 on: April 05, 2004, 03:33:14 pm »
Yes, I intend to keep that up. However..

.. there might be downtime during the move.

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #82 on: April 06, 2004, 08:17:17 pm »
Shouldn't the F-FDX be a freighter instead of a special class? I bring it up as it has become a bit of an issue in the GZ forums as an unbalacing designation in the TBPV format allowing the Feds to use it as a very cheap throw away ship at 24 BPV allowing them to spend the extra on larger hulls for the rest of the fleet. The Feds with the FDX (Federation Express) are the only race with such a low BPV ship available on GSA, the name of the ship and it's relative position in the shiplist file lead me to believe it might have actually been a freighter.

The_Infiltrator

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #83 on: April 06, 2004, 08:31:45 pm »
It is a freighter - just a abnormally fast one. Note the word "express".

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #84 on: April 06, 2004, 09:00:28 pm »
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It is a freighter - just a abnormally fast one. Note the word "express".  




That was my thinking, it just isn't classed as such in the list.

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #85 on: April 06, 2004, 10:19:25 pm »
It was made playable for the sheer fun of it.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #86 on: April 06, 2004, 10:35:02 pm »
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It was made playable for the sheer fun of it.  




Bingo.

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #87 on: April 06, 2004, 10:46:28 pm »
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Bingo.  




Unfortunate.

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #88 on: April 06, 2004, 10:46:55 pm »
[quoteThat comes down to exactly what the SFB BPVs are for these ships. The I-CC (with rear PLaFs) is 220 BPV while the I-BCV is 238. I did it right. Note that the I-CCZ's BPV has remained unchanged from Stock SFC:OP.




I see where my problem lies. I dont really think the BCV without the CCs 44 power is automatically worth 18 points more, just for the ability to carry restitutions.

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.. as for the BCV, I don't consider making a model a correction.
As pretty as the Freddies..  yeah right.  




Not sure what you mean here, if you mean ive inspired you to make some new 3dmodels for ISC, my job here is done

I found the models i was refering to over at  FeralYards<---i meant 3d models, not new ships specifications.I was pretty happy with the BCV, then i saw the BBCV,  and the new light carriers. ISC got a bunch of new stuff, like everybody. Im happy. Ive wanted a BCV for so long, and unfortunately im not an SFB guy. I couldnt research them myself. Then to come back and see one, even an underpowered one, included in a widely accepted shiplist was just fantastic.

I dont think i noticed a difference in the HDWs from stock CLs ,ill check again.

And just to confirm, OP+ 3.2 is a 143mb file right? Not 43?

   

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #89 on: April 06, 2004, 10:57:01 pm »
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Bingo.  




Unfortunate.  




I have seen no evidence to the contrary.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #90 on: April 06, 2004, 10:58:42 pm »
1- I know those models.. and to tell you honestly, I don't like them much. It doesn't fit in with the scheme well.

2- .. OP+ 3.2: size: 43.4mb
 

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #91 on: April 06, 2004, 11:05:04 pm »
How about making everyones APT's playable then, that way everyone can share in the fun and any of the particular TBPV balance issues do to one race having a low end ship at half the cost of everyone elses goes away?

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #92 on: April 06, 2004, 11:10:09 pm »
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Bingo.  




Unfortunate.  




I have seen no evidence to the contrary.  




As I alluded to above it causes certian issues with total BPV matches, since only one race has a flyable ship at such a low BPV. Giving everyone a similarly low BPV ship would solve that issue while allowing the FDX to still be enjoyed as it currently is.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #93 on: April 06, 2004, 11:23:46 pm »
Why is a ship at a LOW bpv important?
What's the advantage?
Why is this a problem?
Why are you asking this now?
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Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #94 on: April 06, 2004, 11:51:50 pm »
Because it can be used as a bit of an exploit for 3v3 total BPV league matches. It allows one team (Fed) to pick it as one of their 3 ships freeing up BPV for the other 2 pilots to pick larger class hulls giving them an advantage at certian total BPVs and particular Era matches. Other races must spend at least 56 BPV on the little ship in a 2 big one little setup. For example at TBPV of 384 feds could take 2 BCFs and a FDX, which with the 2 BCHs and even though the FDX is a throw away, is better than any other fleet another race can field having to either buy 3 smaller hulls or spend at least 50ish on the throw away trying to match the 2 large, 1 small config. That is a short explaination, but suffice it to say it creates a minor issue, that it seems could be removed without ill effect if everyone had access to a similarly low BPV ship.
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FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #95 on: April 07, 2004, 12:15:57 am »
Nah. I've had my fun with the FDX.

Freighter is its place if it's that much of an issue. The REAL problem here is that the Federation Express is not a true Federation unit. It's a civilian unit (hence the "SPECIAL" designation). Its home-base is indeed in the federation, but it has no place in fleet combat.


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PS: How've you been, Kroma? ...  You're a whiny one, aren't you.  

Crimmy

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #96 on: April 07, 2004, 12:51:30 am »
Gee...a D77 would be "fun" to fly also

Kroma_BaSyl

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #97 on: April 07, 2004, 09:32:45 am »
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PS: How've you been, Kroma? ...  You're a whiny one, aren't you.  




Been pretty good, playing a lot of GSA lately, but I am a cheesy one, the whine was courtesy of the GZ divisional league, I was just the messenger boy ;-) Seems for the next cycle they are going to make OP+ mandatory instead of just optional.

BTW, I am currently recruiting additional pilots to fill out our roster for the next cycle, are you interested in strapping on the old tutu and flying with the GDA?

Kroma,

PS, Is there a timeline when 3.3 will be coming out as well?

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #98 on: April 07, 2004, 10:08:28 am »
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PS: How've you been, Kroma? ...  You're a whiny one, aren't you.  




Been pretty good, playing a lot of GSA lately, but I am a cheesy one, the whine was courtesy of the GZ divisional league, I was just the messenger boy ;-) Seems for the next cycle they are going to make OP+ mandatory instead of just optional.





That's interesting news.. It makes sense to me, actually..

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BTW, I am currently recruiting additional pilots to fill out our roster for the next cycle, are you interested in strapping on the old tutu and flying with the GDA?





I dunno..  Last thing I want to do is put a Fleet logo to the mod and start getting accused of favoritism.

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Kroma,
PS, Is there a timeline when 3.3 will be coming out as well?  




Sorry.. no idea. It's still called 3.2.1 at my end since it's all bugfixes and polish. There's no real major additional feature otherwise.

As you may know, I've just bought a place. Every evening, I come home, pack up some number of boxes and bring it there. There's also the matter of painting which is in progress over there. There's going to be some network jacks/plates to install in the walls as well as some semi-simple electrical work to do in the storage room.

I basically arrive back to my current home at around 9pm or 10pm and all I want to do is relax. I've been watching Samurai Jack episodes to pass the time and it amuses me greatly. This weekend involves Easter, so I'm guessing I'll be busy there too. It's not going to be quite for a while I would think.

 

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #99 on: April 07, 2004, 10:51:06 am »
If you need peeps I will fly with the GDA tutu-boy. I just have to figure out that damn GZ website.