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Dogmatix!

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #60 on: March 07, 2004, 09:50:15 pm »
Luc:


I was looking through my Module R6 (The Fast Warships), specifically the FD7 and I wondered if I was reading this correctly.


It appears that the FD7 as you have it in 3.2 is correct, but when you add the K-refit to it, did you perhaps orgot to turn the A-racks into B-racks.  Am I misunderstanding something?  

According to the SSD, FD7 gets the K-refit and B-racks...


Just curious...


 

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #61 on: March 07, 2004, 09:59:43 pm »
Quote:

Luc:


I was looking through my Module R6 (The Fast Warships), specifically the FD7 and I wondered if I was reading this correctly.


It appears that the FD7 as you have it in 3.2 is correct, but when you add the K-refit to it, did you perhaps orgot to turn the A-racks into B-racks.  Am I misunderstanding something?  

According to the SSD, FD7 gets the K-refit and B-racks...

Just curious...
 




The Taldren stock FD7 has F racks. The K refit they entered for it has B racks, but only in Y169.

What I did is changed the K refit to A racks and kept Y169, and added a Y175 refit where they get B racks. Look for the FD7R. .. I kept some of Taldren stock aspects, but adapted them to be more SFB-like.

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« Last Edit: March 07, 2004, 10:04:23 pm by FireSoul »

Dogmatix!

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #62 on: March 08, 2004, 07:17:44 am »
Gotcha.


I was gonna also mention the ADD6 going to ADD12, but I see the FD7R has that covered too.  I didn't know about that ship until I just now looked in the shiplist...heheh.  I'm not sure I've ever seen it in a D2 shipyard.  I'll kep an eye out for it, because the FD7K is kind of a fun ship to fly.  ADD12 and B-racks will make it even more so!  



 

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #63 on: March 08, 2004, 09:23:57 am »
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Gotcha.


I was gonna also mention the ADD6 going to ADD12, but I see the FD7R has that covered too.  I didn't know about that ship until I just now looked in the shiplist...heheh.  I'm not sure I've ever seen it in a D2 shipyard.  I'll kep an eye out for it, because the FD7K is kind of a fun ship to fly.  ADD12 and B-racks will make it even more so!  
 




'Fun' as in getting advanced equipment earlier, you mean.  

The_Infiltrator

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #64 on: March 21, 2004, 10:37:11 pm »
Is this a good place to submit ship name corrections? A quick scan shows me that there's some work to be done here if you want.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #65 on: March 21, 2004, 11:44:09 pm »
Yes. This is a good place for corrections. This is what this thread is for.

The_Infiltrator

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2004, 08:13:54 pm »
I'll address these in no real particular order. I'm working off of many sources so forgive me for that; I'll put up the class names in the file and what I've found in the SFB source materials (and where) for you.

|H-IC|HMS Iron
||HMS Chromium
||HMS Gold
||HMS Silver
||HMS Platinum
||HMS Latnum
||HMS Titanium

There's only 1 IC, and that ship is the HMS Exchequer (R9.84).

|H-ID|HMS Iron Duke
||HMS Iron Prince
||HMS Iron Knife
||HMS Iron Blade
||HMS Iron Noble
||HMS Iron Knight

This is somewhat difficult, but there is at least 1 known name, HMS Royal Sovereign, the first of the class (R9.42).

|H-LGE|HMS Malatryx
||HMS Fematryx

There was a planned but never built 3rd of this class, the HMS Matratryx.

|H-PAL|HMS Hydra
||HMS Hydran Lord
||HMS Ether Spirit
||HMS Iridium Soul

The first 2 of this class are converted/modernized Templars, so the names are HMS Triumph and HMS Victory (R9.83). One of this class was converted to a LP, HMS Majestryx (R9.54). The same names of course would be present for the PAL+ and the Regent.

|H-DG|HMS Fortitude
||HMS Magnificent
||HMS Majestic
||HMS Zenith

There is another of this class, the HMS Colossus (SH 79.0).

|H-DWS|HMS Bounty
||HMS Security
||HMS Cannon

HMS Mystic Seer is part of this class (SH 222.0).

Lots more, but that's enough for me for now.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #67 on: March 24, 2004, 06:01:00 pm »
Quote:

I'll address these in no real particular order. I'm working off of many sources so forgive me for that; I'll put up the class names in the file and what I've found in the SFB source materials (and where) for you.

|H-IC|HMS Iron
||HMS Chromium
||HMS Gold
||HMS Silver
||HMS Platinum
||HMS Latnum
||HMS Titanium

There's only 1 IC, and that ship is the HMS Exchequer (R9.84).




Ok. Done.

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|H-ID|HMS Iron Duke
||HMS Iron Prince
||HMS Iron Knife
||HMS Iron Blade
||HMS Iron Noble
||HMS Iron Knight

This is somewhat difficult, but there is at least 1 known name, HMS Royal Sovereign, the first of the class (R9.42).




Ok. Added as first in the list.

Quote:


|H-LGE|HMS Malatryx
||HMS Fematryx

There was a planned but never built 3rd of this class, the HMS Matratryx.




Ok. Added.

Quote:


|H-PAL|HMS Hydra
||HMS Hydran Lord
||HMS Ether Spirit
||HMS Iridium Soul

The first 2 of this class are converted/modernized Templars, so the names are HMS Triumph and HMS Victory (R9.83). One of this class was converted to a LP, HMS Majestryx (R9.54). The same names of course would be present for the PAL+ and the Regent.




Done.

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|H-DG|HMS Fortitude
||HMS Magnificent
||HMS Majestic
||HMS Zenith
There is another of this class, the HMS Colossus (SH 79.0).




Ok. Added.

Quote:


|H-DWS|HMS Bounty
||HMS Security
||HMS Cannon

HMS Mystic Seer is part of this class (SH 222.0).




Added.

Quote:


Lots more, but that's enough for me for now.  




I never considered the names of the ships a big thing, but if it makes players more comfortable, keep sending the data.

The_Infiltrator

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #68 on: March 24, 2004, 09:10:37 pm »
It's probabally minor, but some of the names annoy me. And it appears that I won't have to do that much work, as it looks like SVC has finally gotten around to getting this part of the house in order:

http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/21/6850.html?1079978109

Read and use

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #69 on: March 24, 2004, 10:48:50 pm »
This is an enormous amount of work for me. I don't think you should expect me to go through this just like that, especially since I don't consider the names such a big deal.

Pestalence

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #70 on: March 25, 2004, 12:03:09 am »
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It's probabally minor, but some of the names annoy me. And it appears that I won't have to do that much work, as it looks like SVC has finally gotten around to getting this part of the house in order:

http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/21/6850.html?1079978109

Read and use  




Someone had way, way too much time on their hands to make the posts in the link you provided...

and since the shipnames.txt file is not CRC checked on a server.. good luch editing it yourself...

that is just way too many ships to name for a PC game.. and really un necessary..

just do what I do.. go in game and hit F9.. that way you don't have to deal with shipnames or HUD info...
 

Corbomite

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #71 on: March 25, 2004, 12:11:06 am »
Is the R-SKL supposed to be showing the BH model with the Skyhawk UI?

The_Infiltrator

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #72 on: March 25, 2004, 07:22:16 am »
Quote:

Quote:

It's probabally minor, but some of the names annoy me. And it appears that I won't have to do that much work, as it looks like SVC has finally gotten around to getting this part of the house in order:

http://www.starfleetgames.com/discus/messages/21/6850.html?1079978109

Read and use  




Someone had way, way too much time on their hands to make the posts in the link you provided...

and since the shipnames.txt file is not CRC checked on a server.. good luch editing it yourself...

that is just way too many ships to name for a PC game.. and really un necessary..

just do what I do.. go in game and hit F9.. that way you don't have to deal with shipnames or HUD info...
 




Hydrans use F11 to assist in tracking fighters. Doesn't work that way.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #73 on: March 25, 2004, 01:50:22 pm »
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Is the R-SKL supposed to be showing the BH model with the Skyhawk UI?  




No models pack, right?

Corbomite

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #74 on: March 25, 2004, 01:56:12 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

Is the R-SKL supposed to be showing the BH model with the Skyhawk UI?  




No models pack, right?  




Correct.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #75 on: March 25, 2004, 01:59:36 pm »
Quote:

Quote:

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Is the R-SKL supposed to be showing the BH model with the Skyhawk UI?  




No models pack, right?  




Correct.  




Yeah. Found it. It's a simple thing to fix too. However I'm at work at the moment. I just need to set it up to copy the RDE model instead of RDD to opplus/models/RDD.

 

ghostcamel

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2004, 02:55:48 am »
Request for more ISC ship models please, or spread the ones present now through more of the fleet. Like the HDWs and BCV.

A couple BPV questions,

The ISC BCV is 262bpv it has weapons of a CCZ but power of CAZ. The CCZ is 229 Bpv. How was BPV calculated for this ship? How about the I-CCX? Its a really good ship, but not better than a I-XCA... is it?

A request:

Could someone explain battletugs/tugs and Monitors to me? Some SFB background and their actual uses in SFC would be great . Thanks.

And praise:

Split PPD mounts are the best thing ever!

I love the I-BBVZ Its BPV is just right.

Thank You, again, for all the hard work  It is greatly appreciated.....

now back to work till all the ISC ships look as preeety as the Feddies  

 
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Julin Eurthyr

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #77 on: March 30, 2004, 05:18:36 pm »
SFB Tugs etc.

In SFB, in addition to the extremely slow freighters, there are "line" warships converted to a cargo carrying role.  Tugs and Light Tactical Transports (LTTs).

The original tug was from the Franz Joseph Technical Manual (the Ptlomey).  Notice how it looks like a cruiser with a giant pod slung / towed underneath.  SFB created "pallet", which fulfill the same role as pods for certain races.

These pods are normally bulk-freight carriers, but someone designed pods filled with such things as weapons, fighter hangers, power systems, etc.

When these special pods are fitted to the tugs, you get the "special" tugs like battle tugs (carrying battle pods), carrier tugs (with hanger pods), etc.

Monitors:

Special ships designed to have DN level firepower.  Due to cost-saving measures, the engines are barely capable of moving the ship.  They are normally towed to an important system where they are assigned system-defense duties.  If a monitor was theoretically sent on a fixed-position assault or an escort mission, the monitor is so slow that it would take forever to get to the target / destination...

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #78 on: March 30, 2004, 07:18:11 pm »
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Request for more ISC ship models please, or spread the ones present now through more of the fleet. Like the HDWs and BCV.





.. I have a model for the HDWs..
.. as for the BCV, I don't consider making a model a correction.

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A couple BPV questions,
The ISC BCV is 262bpv it has weapons of a CCZ but power of CAZ. The CCZ is 229 Bpv. How was BPV calculated for this ship? How about the I-CCX? Its a really good ship, but not better than a I-XCA... is it?





The BCV is a carrier and is listed at 263 BPV.
  - 2 points per basic fighter.. There are 8, so 16 for the fighters. So that brings the ship down to .. 247 BPV
(BTW, the BCV itself is a modified CCZ.)
  - next, SFC:OP has a BPV tax on the PLaI torps. (the PLaIs have more functionality than should be). On the CCZ and BCV, I had calculated this tax to be around 9 BPV. That means the CCZ should be worth 220 BPV if the PLaIs worked right, while the BCV is worth 238 BPV.  (see:  http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/BPV_adjustments.html#BPVplasmaI )

That comes down to exactly what the SFB BPVs are for these ships. The I-CC (with rear PLaFs) is 220 BPV while the I-BCV is 238. I did it right. Note that the I-CCZ's BPV has remained unchanged from Stock SFC:OP.


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A request:
Could someone explain battletugs/tugs and Monitors to me? Some SFB background and their actual uses in SFC would be great . Thanks.
And praise:
Split PPD mounts are the best thing ever!
I love the I-BBVZ Its BPV is just right.
Thank You, again, for all the hard work  It is greatly appreciated.....
now back to work till all the ISC ships look as preeety as the Feddies  
   




As pretty as the Freddies..  yeah right.

FireSoul

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Re: OP+ 3.2 Corrections Thread
« Reply #79 on: April 05, 2004, 10:40:19 am »
Progress report..

Model fixing:
60 models to do..
.. out of the current 223.
The Lyrans are done.
The Gorns are done.
The ISC are done.
The Klingons are done.
The Hydrans are done.


Other fixes that have been completed:
1- The L-CWS ship and variants has been added. (I've missed it, apparently)

Other enhancements:
1- Strafer's a fan of Thu11s' new Lyran models, so I've been adding some model separation in the shiplist for him for the LCA, LCC, DCA, DCC, DCCH..  .. there'll be more eventually, but that's all that Thu11s has released for now.

2- Strafer (yeah, him again) decided to do some work on the strings.txt himself. He reviewed all the shipclass names.
Ship classes have been reviewed and renamed to polish the works up. I don't know how many more are left to do.
ie: The G-BB is now called "Godzilla Battleship".

Other News:
I've bought myself a condo. I'm gonna be busy for a while moving stuff over (a few boxes a night type of thing) and preparing the place. We're in the process of painting the master bedroom (2nd primer layer should go on tonight). There's a lot of work to do, and it takes precedence over anything OP-related.


-- Luc