Topic: OP+3.2: Announcing its release. (Read 11207 times)

FireSoul · « **on:** January 18, 2004, 06:13:45 am »

Well, it's time to deliver. There is still some more work I can do to refine this mod further, but I can release what I have right now safely and justly. OP+ version 3.2 has been brewing for some months and is now available for download.

(For those who don't get it, this is a mod for SFC:OP)..

In a nutshell, you can download the mod from these following links:
OP+ 3.2 with models: http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_32_models.exe (43.4mb)
OP+ 3.2 without models: http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_32_no_models.exe (250kb)

Additional information:
Changes from version 3.1 to 3.2: http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/changes_from_3.1_to_3.2.txt
Compare.txt between version 3.1 and 3.2, implicitely: http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/compare_from_3.1_to_3.2.txt

Compare.txt between original OP 2552 shiplist and OP+ shiplist 3.2 : http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/compare.txt

Main website: http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/

The installer available now uses a new form of compression called LZMA which is about 20% better than bzip2 to compress packages. Instead of being as large as 60MB, the installer for the models version of OP+ 3.2 is only 43.4MB in size.

I hope you enjoy this mod and check out the website for more details. All the information you may need could already be posted there.

Oh, and I almost forgot.

Quote:

The original SFC:OP shiplist has 2370 ship entries.
The OP Plus Refit 3.2 shiplist has 5435 ship entries.

Most of the additions are "general" units players wouldn't be using as fighting ships. In other words, these units are bases, or freighters, etc. These will help increase the fun of playing on D2 or with single-player campaigns. Many models had
to be created to suit these ships, all of which I've created myself. With any luck, the DIP people will use this to improve their own shiplist project.

-- Luc
FireSoul

PS: I plan a revised edition of OP+32, eventually. It would use the exact same shiplist files, but I am going through the process of reviewing each and every one of the models, making sure they have LODs (Levels of Details) to ease off on CPU usage when playing with this mod. This will take time. A lot of time. But based on what I saw tonight while playing the game on my laptop, it does help.

Jim · « **Reply #1 on:** January 18, 2004, 07:14:42 am »

Thanks!

Hopefully your shiplist will become the default for future servers... that would be great! Not to mention all the playtesting it would recieve. Thanks again for all your hard work!

Jim

Pestalence · « **Reply #2 on:** January 18, 2004, 07:38:47 am »

Cool, just grabbed them and I will be making my installers today.. hopefully they will be available tonight...

Fantastic work Firesoul !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks alot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pestalence

KRolling · « **Reply #3 on:** January 18, 2004, 07:42:49 am »

Thank you for the hard work!

IndyShark · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2004, 09:28:36 am »

That is really cool. Once again, thank you for all of the hard work Firesoul!

TraumaTech · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2004, 09:41:31 am »

hailz firesoul and great work.....question though. i have opplus 3.1 with models.if i d/l 3.2 without models,will i still retain skins from 3.1???

Primus2003 · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2004, 09:53:00 am »

For his dedication we should award FS a prize, his work came out earlier then anticipated and once again enhances things even further. What can I say firesoul other then kudos and thank you for your dedication and har work to continue to add to the richness of the game.

Green · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2004, 10:09:06 am »

Thanks FireSoul.

I like the expansion of "civilian" entities being shown in the game.

Mr. Hypergol · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2004, 10:12:33 am »

Oh yum yum yum yum....oh yum yum yum yum yum yum..........

Thanks again Firesoul.

FPF_TraceyG · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2004, 11:53:03 am »

Nice work FireSoul, and thankyou for your permission to use 3.2 as the basis for the DIP shiplist. Well done.

Rogue · « **Reply #14 on:** January 18, 2004, 12:59:37 pm »

Must add a thanks to this thread. I am well aware this has been a lot of time consuming work and many of us consider it to be one of the most fun mods out for SFC. That's what makes it so successful... increased fun factor! There are other specification mods being done but yours has become the defacto choice with no slight towards any of the other shiplist projects.

Again a harty thanks for the effort.

Rhaz · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2004, 01:39:53 pm »

Wow! I just read the changes from 3.1 - what dedication you have, the reclassification must have been a *real* pain.
I really like the idea of move civilian ships.

Thanks for the dedication and helping make OP the best SFC available.

TraumaTech · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2004, 05:08:16 pm »

this is a post over in gz's sfc op forum..maybe you can reply to it for strat

I have to update the specs chooser code. I won't be able to do this for some time.

Try this for a temporary solution.
1) Load the OP+ 3.1 Shiplist with the SFC:OP Shiplist Chooser 4.2.5
2) Uninstall OP+ 3.1 (Do this step only if you have OP+ 3.1 installed)
3) Load 'Other Mod' with the SFC:OP Shiplist Chooser 4.2.5
4) Install OP+ 3.2

Try this, the shiplist chooser should store the OP+ 3.2 lists in the Other Mod directory. The only way this won't work is if the new version of OP+ 3.2 has a new model.siz file.

Much of this I have to test, and I may not be able to for the better part of the day.

If someone else can find the time to test out this temporary solution, I'm sure it would be appreciated by much of the community.

here's the link

http://gzleagues.com/forum/showthread.php?t=763

Hstaphath_XC · « **Reply #20 on:** January 20, 2004, 07:07:37 pm »

FS, dude, you are THE MAN!

Mere words just seem so inadequate to express my gratitude for your efforts...

Hehe... how about I write a parody song about you?

FireSoul · « **Reply #22 on:** January 21, 2004, 05:35:13 am »

I've prepared a new no_models installer this morning, fixing a couple of issues around missing models.
If you use the no_models, I suggest you download this one and reinstall the shiplist and models.

Pest: yes, that means you're going to have to make new installers again. :P~

CptCastrin · « **Reply #25 on:** January 21, 2004, 12:15:22 pm »

All OP+ files are now uploaded and linked on SFCx.org.

l8r

FireSoul · « **Reply #26 on:** January 25, 2004, 02:18:27 pm »

A new opplus_32_no_models.exe installer has been generated. Enhancements include sanity checks and error popup messages when something seems wrong during models install/copy. No fixes were applied to the models themselves. Fetch and reinstall with this installer if you have any problems with past incarnations of the no_models installer.

http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_32_no_models.exe

-- Luc

Pestalence · « **Reply #28 on:** January 31, 2004, 04:04:05 pm »

Excellent news Firesoul.. fantastic.. ADB is finally recognizing SFC and more speciffically YOU !!!!

Cool beans and kudos to you...

Here's hoping for a more prominent and prosperous future.

feargusf · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2004, 09:01:48 pm »

So, let me get this straight. You told him "No friggin' way!" right?

Of course, I'm joking! Excellent news, FireSoul!

Crimmy · « **Reply #30 on:** February 01, 2004, 12:05:32 am »

WAY cool!

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #32 on:** February 01, 2004, 07:57:21 am »

Hi Firesoul
Congratulations! I just ordered my copy of cl27 and I'll be ordering cl28 for sure now

You greatly deserve it for bringing more of the SFB universe to this community.

gplana · « **Reply #33 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:16:54 am »

Actually, there has been an SFC column in CL since SFC1 came out. Just not much "meat" in it, which I'm planning to fix this time around.

What I'm planning for CL28 is to cover the "third-party add-ons" as best I can; Luc's OP+ will not be the only thing mentioned. Scripts and mission stuff, ship mods, links to some of the download sites, the GAW project, and so forth. General notes on installation for newbies as well. More links.

I've got a couple months to write this article, so I'm willing to listen to suggestions, requests, and attempts at bribery.

gplana · « **Reply #35 on:** February 02, 2004, 11:42:51 am »

I'm already familiar with most of those, Luc. All except O'Neill's PF packs are on my home computer right now.

Bonk · « **Reply #36 on:** February 02, 2004, 07:35:11 pm »

Might this qualify?

SFB OP Mod '03b - New and Improved!

Laid the groundwork for other Fighter/PF mods... Still somewhat of a WIP but functional as is and enjoyed quite a bit by some. I intend to polish it eventually.

It is based on Gman's old SFB_OP shiplist, which is what Chris Jones used in his UltimateTOS mod for OP, I did the same but recompiled the models from the original sources unmodified and completed the job of making fighters and PFs flyable along with many other changes and improvements.

It is intended to play more like SFB, which it does.

gplana · « **Reply #37 on:** February 04, 2004, 12:14:48 am »

Would it count? Well ... kinda.

If you step back for a moment and assume that anyone who is just now learning to install mods and scripts and things is a newbie, then ... it's probably a bad idea to tell them about incomplete and/or WIP projects they can't figure out.

I will definitely take a look at it; I'm a "Fed with PFs" player myself. No promises, though.

Gary

Bonk · « **Reply #38 on:** February 04, 2004, 08:45:11 pm »

This mod is simple to manage. Download the installer form fileplanet and the update from prohosting as linked on the thread referenced above. Install the mod then install the update. (i.e double click the executables) When finished evaluating the mod uninstall with the shortcut created on your start menu or through the add/remove programs in the control panel. It is quite simple. Perhaps I led you astray a bit... in my opinion SFB_OP_03b is more complete than Chris Jones Ultimate TOS mod for OP and is simpler to install. Thanks for taking a look, and I don't expect anything.

P.S. If you're a "Fed with PFs" player I'm sure you'll like this fine (especially if you know SFB and realize that Fed PFs kinda suck and that F-18s A-20s and F-111s make a superior attrition force to Fed PFs....)

More screenshots here...

Thanks again, and good luck with your article!

Mr. Hypergol · « **Reply #39 on:** February 04, 2004, 09:27:01 pm »

WOW this is great Firesoul !!!! I'm glad ADB is publishing info about SFC, your OP+ mod, and other stuff. Bonk's work should also be included.

Maybe someday ADB can work a deal to get full fledged computerized SFB...or an SFC total conversion that gets the other races weapons and technology added. So we can have real Tholians, Andros, Seltorians, and even the Omega races truly included.

We can only hope.

DH123 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 05, 2004, 04:34:53 pm »

i've recently emailed Steve V. Cole and he confirmed that thousands of people still play SFB. Makes ya think . . .

DH123 · « **Reply #41 on:** February 05, 2004, 04:41:10 pm »

Bonk, you have space Dragons!!! just saw the pics, that is so fricking cool!!!

Time to download that mod again . . .

gplana · « **Reply #46 on:** February 06, 2004, 11:57:00 pm »

Karnak: not a problem. I do have to say that I've played them myself and like them!

Everybody: I've gotten a couple of emails, so one thing I should clarify for everone: most of the people here, and on TUN, and partipicating in the other projects, and so forth and so on, all these people know about all these things that have been done (like OP+, the EEK mssions, Chris Jones works, and all the ship models that have been built). Just from posts that I read on the SFC topic within the SFB BBS, I know that there are a lot of people who have no idea whatsoever that there are neat things they can install to "enhance game play". You guys here are all in the category of knowing all about these things already, in most cases in a whole lot more detail than I know. So the article will not be of much interest to you guys.

Speaking for myself, I truly appreciate what you guys have done over the years. I don't know if all the bugs have been worked out of OP 2.5.5.2 -- although David Ferrell is clearly due some kudos -- and quite frankly I don't know how the people working on GAW are going to implement Web weapons within in the game -- which is pretty well essential for the Tholians to be a factor. Anyhow ...

The focus of the article will be to introduce newbies to the idea of going past what Taldren did ... things they can do, add-ons you guys have done, and so forth. While we're able to point out some neat stuff you guys have done, that's about it. It's still Taldren's game, and yours.

Taldren took it as far as they could, and now the fan community (that's YOU) has picked up the ball. All I intend is to put the word out to the SFB players who read CAPTAIN'S LOG and may be unaware of what they're missing.

Crimmy · « **Reply #47 on:** February 07, 2004, 01:22:52 am »

One of the things you should encourage newbies to do........Join us online....Player Vs Player is the pinnicle of SFC....

Many of the gaming communties (for other types of games) are huge and unfriendly...looking only for the best players to hang out with...quite litterally shunning new people....

That can be very intimidating for any gaming system...and it can literly kill the love of a game like this...its a hard enough game without dealing with buttheads too...

Well....we are a different lot....we look forward to welcoming new people and helping them "get up to speed" so they can join our addiction...er community....and many people go out of their way to personaly provide training, tactics, and tricks to bring up a new players skills...want to learn how to fight a fed or klink and live to fight another day?....just ask and a klink or fed, or another racial player will spend time showing you how....I cant think of too many gamer types that will teach you how to defeat themselves....

Many of us have transended the "must win" mentality and now play for the joy of battle alone....

OP may very well be the closest we ever get to the prize(real time SFB).....but for many of us...its close enough

There are only three things one needs to join our community....

A game disk...an internet connection....and the will to learn....

Skills we can teach, tech support we got, and fun?....yeah baby we got buckets of fun!

Rogue · « **Reply #48 on:** February 07, 2004, 08:09:58 am »

Crimmy, what you have said concerning joining on line play speaks to people like myself. My very short on line play experience was discouraged not by the way anyone treated me but by buggy launches. The fight would start and about half the time I was unable to be launched in, leaving whoever I was flying with in a bad situation. Therefor I thought it best to not screw up other peoples fun.

If I, or other people like me, wanted to give it another shot, where is the better places to start again?

MagnumMan · « **Reply #50 on:** February 19, 2004, 12:50:03 am »

Ah, don't forget to throw in a shameless plug for Co-op Ace, a script that Firesoul has graciously assumed most responsibilities for and enhanced a great deal. And yep, I'm still out here, if only watching. :>

Age · « **Reply #51 on:** February 20, 2004, 04:29:36 am »

Hi Crimmy would you like to see improvements to KE3Y Bird of Prey like a power of 25 so you can overload the torps and go to speed 20 while cloaked it would be nice would in it the same for tinga or K7T it would be nice if that ship cloaked too sounds nice does in it .I would like to but I do not know how to edit ships I am no computer wizzard.David Farrell told me to do it on excel but it says make a back up I am not sure how to do that.I would like to see Taldren put out shiplist editor and make it userfriendly and easy to edit and make up some of our own.What do you think pass this around to everyone on the forum if I do not get the time please.Bye the way may Klingon alter ego name is Koras and my Fed. is Mike Hanson Comes from a family of norse warriors

Ravok · « **Reply #52 on:** March 31, 2004, 11:47:51 pm »

Once again i can't thank you enough!!!!!

You Program with honor!!!

C-Los · « **Reply #57 on:** April 01, 2004, 09:02:59 am »

But I do.. but I do. In fact, lately, I watched the entire FireFly series back-to-back. (in 3-4 nights)

Loved that set...

And the "Companion".....

Potemkin · « **Reply #58 on:** April 05, 2004, 10:32:44 pm »

Nice work - y'all!

Thanks

Po~

FireSoul · « **Reply #59 on:** May 19, 2004, 10:03:26 am »

Can a moderator remove the sticky off this thread?

Jim · « **Reply #61 on:** January 18, 2004, 07:14:42 am »

Thanks!

Hopefully your shiplist will become the default for future servers... that would be great! Not to mention all the playtesting it would recieve. Thanks again for all your hard work!

Jim

Pestalence · « **Reply #62 on:** January 18, 2004, 07:38:47 am »

Cool, just grabbed them and I will be making my installers today.. hopefully they will be available tonight...

Fantastic work Firesoul !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

thanks alot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Pestalence

KRolling · « **Reply #63 on:** January 18, 2004, 07:42:49 am »

Thank you for the hard work!

IndyShark · « **Reply #64 on:** January 18, 2004, 09:28:36 am »

That is really cool. Once again, thank you for all of the hard work Firesoul!

TraumaTech · « **Reply #65 on:** January 18, 2004, 09:41:31 am »

hailz firesoul and great work.....question though. i have opplus 3.1 with models.if i d/l 3.2 without models,will i still retain skins from 3.1???

Primus2003 · « **Reply #67 on:** January 18, 2004, 09:53:00 am »

For his dedication we should award FS a prize, his work came out earlier then anticipated and once again enhances things even further. What can I say firesoul other then kudos and thank you for your dedication and har work to continue to add to the richness of the game.

Green · « **Reply #69 on:** January 18, 2004, 10:09:06 am »

Thanks FireSoul.

I like the expansion of "civilian" entities being shown in the game.

Mr. Hypergol · « **Reply #71 on:** January 18, 2004, 10:12:33 am »

Oh yum yum yum yum....oh yum yum yum yum yum yum..........

Thanks again Firesoul.

FPF_TraceyG · « **Reply #72 on:** January 18, 2004, 11:53:03 am »

Nice work FireSoul, and thankyou for your permission to use 3.2 as the basis for the DIP shiplist. Well done.

Rogue · « **Reply #74 on:** January 18, 2004, 12:59:37 pm »

Must add a thanks to this thread. I am well aware this has been a lot of time consuming work and many of us consider it to be one of the most fun mods out for SFC. That's what makes it so successful... increased fun factor! There are other specification mods being done but yours has become the defacto choice with no slight towards any of the other shiplist projects.

Again a harty thanks for the effort.

Rhaz · « **Reply #75 on:** January 18, 2004, 01:39:53 pm »

Wow! I just read the changes from 3.1 - what dedication you have, the reclassification must have been a *real* pain.
I really like the idea of move civilian ships.

Thanks for the dedication and helping make OP the best SFC available.

TraumaTech · « **Reply #77 on:** January 18, 2004, 05:08:16 pm »

this is a post over in gz's sfc op forum..maybe you can reply to it for strat

I have to update the specs chooser code. I won't be able to do this for some time.

Try this for a temporary solution.
1) Load the OP+ 3.1 Shiplist with the SFC:OP Shiplist Chooser 4.2.5
2) Uninstall OP+ 3.1 (Do this step only if you have OP+ 3.1 installed)
3) Load 'Other Mod' with the SFC:OP Shiplist Chooser 4.2.5
4) Install OP+ 3.2

Try this, the shiplist chooser should store the OP+ 3.2 lists in the Other Mod directory. The only way this won't work is if the new version of OP+ 3.2 has a new model.siz file.

Much of this I have to test, and I may not be able to for the better part of the day.

If someone else can find the time to test out this temporary solution, I'm sure it would be appreciated by much of the community.

here's the link

http://gzleagues.com/forum/showthread.php?t=763

Hstaphath_XC · « **Reply #80 on:** January 20, 2004, 07:07:37 pm »

FS, dude, you are THE MAN!

Mere words just seem so inadequate to express my gratitude for your efforts...

Hehe... how about I write a parody song about you?

FireSoul · « **Reply #82 on:** January 21, 2004, 05:35:13 am »

I've prepared a new no_models installer this morning, fixing a couple of issues around missing models.
If you use the no_models, I suggest you download this one and reinstall the shiplist and models.

Pest: yes, that means you're going to have to make new installers again. :P~

CptCastrin · « **Reply #85 on:** January 21, 2004, 12:15:22 pm »

All OP+ files are now uploaded and linked on SFCx.org.

l8r

FireSoul · « **Reply #86 on:** January 25, 2004, 02:18:27 pm »

A new opplus_32_no_models.exe installer has been generated. Enhancements include sanity checks and error popup messages when something seems wrong during models install/copy. No fixes were applied to the models themselves. Fetch and reinstall with this installer if you have any problems with past incarnations of the no_models installer.

http://klingon.stasis.ca/OP_plusrefit/opplus_32_no_models.exe

-- Luc

Pestalence · « **Reply #88 on:** January 31, 2004, 04:04:05 pm »

Excellent news Firesoul.. fantastic.. ADB is finally recognizing SFC and more speciffically YOU !!!!

Cool beans and kudos to you...

Here's hoping for a more prominent and prosperous future.

feargusf · « **Reply #89 on:** January 31, 2004, 09:01:48 pm »

So, let me get this straight. You told him "No friggin' way!" right?

Of course, I'm joking! Excellent news, FireSoul!

Crimmy · « **Reply #90 on:** February 01, 2004, 12:05:32 am »

WAY cool!

Bernard Guignard · « **Reply #92 on:** February 01, 2004, 07:57:21 am »

Hi Firesoul
Congratulations! I just ordered my copy of cl27 and I'll be ordering cl28 for sure now

You greatly deserve it for bringing more of the SFB universe to this community.

gplana · « **Reply #93 on:** February 02, 2004, 02:16:54 am »

Actually, there has been an SFC column in CL since SFC1 came out. Just not much "meat" in it, which I'm planning to fix this time around.

What I'm planning for CL28 is to cover the "third-party add-ons" as best I can; Luc's OP+ will not be the only thing mentioned. Scripts and mission stuff, ship mods, links to some of the download sites, the GAW project, and so forth. General notes on installation for newbies as well. More links.

I've got a couple months to write this article, so I'm willing to listen to suggestions, requests, and attempts at bribery.

gplana · « **Reply #95 on:** February 02, 2004, 11:42:51 am »

I'm already familiar with most of those, Luc. All except O'Neill's PF packs are on my home computer right now.

Bonk · « **Reply #96 on:** February 02, 2004, 07:35:11 pm »

Might this qualify?

SFB OP Mod '03b - New and Improved!

Laid the groundwork for other Fighter/PF mods... Still somewhat of a WIP but functional as is and enjoyed quite a bit by some. I intend to polish it eventually.

It is based on Gman's old SFB_OP shiplist, which is what Chris Jones used in his UltimateTOS mod for OP, I did the same but recompiled the models from the original sources unmodified and completed the job of making fighters and PFs flyable along with many other changes and improvements.

It is intended to play more like SFB, which it does.

gplana · « **Reply #97 on:** February 04, 2004, 12:14:48 am »

Would it count? Well ... kinda.

If you step back for a moment and assume that anyone who is just now learning to install mods and scripts and things is a newbie, then ... it's probably a bad idea to tell them about incomplete and/or WIP projects they can't figure out.

I will definitely take a look at it; I'm a "Fed with PFs" player myself. No promises, though.

Gary

Bonk · « **Reply #98 on:** February 04, 2004, 08:45:11 pm »

This mod is simple to manage. Download the installer form fileplanet and the update from prohosting as linked on the thread referenced above. Install the mod then install the update. (i.e double click the executables) When finished evaluating the mod uninstall with the shortcut created on your start menu or through the add/remove programs in the control panel. It is quite simple. Perhaps I led you astray a bit... in my opinion SFB_OP_03b is more complete than Chris Jones Ultimate TOS mod for OP and is simpler to install. Thanks for taking a look, and I don't expect anything.

P.S. If you're a "Fed with PFs" player I'm sure you'll like this fine (especially if you know SFB and realize that Fed PFs kinda suck and that F-18s A-20s and F-111s make a superior attrition force to Fed PFs....)

More screenshots here...

Thanks again, and good luck with your article!

Mr. Hypergol · « **Reply #99 on:** February 04, 2004, 09:27:01 pm »

WOW this is great Firesoul !!!! I'm glad ADB is publishing info about SFC, your OP+ mod, and other stuff. Bonk's work should also be included.

Maybe someday ADB can work a deal to get full fledged computerized SFB...or an SFC total conversion that gets the other races weapons and technology added. So we can have real Tholians, Andros, Seltorians, and even the Omega races truly included.

We can only hope.

DH123 · « **Reply #100 on:** February 05, 2004, 04:34:53 pm »

i've recently emailed Steve V. Cole and he confirmed that thousands of people still play SFB. Makes ya think . . .

DH123 · « **Reply #101 on:** February 05, 2004, 04:41:10 pm »

Bonk, you have space Dragons!!! just saw the pics, that is so fricking cool!!!

Time to download that mod again . . .

gplana · « **Reply #106 on:** February 06, 2004, 11:57:00 pm »

Karnak: not a problem. I do have to say that I've played them myself and like them!

Everybody: I've gotten a couple of emails, so one thing I should clarify for everone: most of the people here, and on TUN, and partipicating in the other projects, and so forth and so on, all these people know about all these things that have been done (like OP+, the EEK mssions, Chris Jones works, and all the ship models that have been built). Just from posts that I read on the SFC topic within the SFB BBS, I know that there are a lot of people who have no idea whatsoever that there are neat things they can install to "enhance game play". You guys here are all in the category of knowing all about these things already, in most cases in a whole lot more detail than I know. So the article will not be of much interest to you guys.

Speaking for myself, I truly appreciate what you guys have done over the years. I don't know if all the bugs have been worked out of OP 2.5.5.2 -- although David Ferrell is clearly due some kudos -- and quite frankly I don't know how the people working on GAW are going to implement Web weapons within in the game -- which is pretty well essential for the Tholians to be a factor. Anyhow ...

The focus of the article will be to introduce newbies to the idea of going past what Taldren did ... things they can do, add-ons you guys have done, and so forth. While we're able to point out some neat stuff you guys have done, that's about it. It's still Taldren's game, and yours.

Taldren took it as far as they could, and now the fan community (that's YOU) has picked up the ball. All I intend is to put the word out to the SFB players who read CAPTAIN'S LOG and may be unaware of what they're missing.

Crimmy · « **Reply #107 on:** February 07, 2004, 01:22:52 am »

One of the things you should encourage newbies to do........Join us online....Player Vs Player is the pinnicle of SFC....

Many of the gaming communties (for other types of games) are huge and unfriendly...looking only for the best players to hang out with...quite litterally shunning new people....

That can be very intimidating for any gaming system...and it can literly kill the love of a game like this...its a hard enough game without dealing with buttheads too...

Well....we are a different lot....we look forward to welcoming new people and helping them "get up to speed" so they can join our addiction...er community....and many people go out of their way to personaly provide training, tactics, and tricks to bring up a new players skills...want to learn how to fight a fed or klink and live to fight another day?....just ask and a klink or fed, or another racial player will spend time showing you how....I cant think of too many gamer types that will teach you how to defeat themselves....

Many of us have transended the "must win" mentality and now play for the joy of battle alone....

OP may very well be the closest we ever get to the prize(real time SFB).....but for many of us...its close enough

There are only three things one needs to join our community....

A game disk...an internet connection....and the will to learn....

Skills we can teach, tech support we got, and fun?....yeah baby we got buckets of fun!

Rogue · « **Reply #108 on:** February 07, 2004, 08:09:58 am »

Crimmy, what you have said concerning joining on line play speaks to people like myself. My very short on line play experience was discouraged not by the way anyone treated me but by buggy launches. The fight would start and about half the time I was unable to be launched in, leaving whoever I was flying with in a bad situation. Therefor I thought it best to not screw up other peoples fun.

If I, or other people like me, wanted to give it another shot, where is the better places to start again?

MagnumMan · « **Reply #110 on:** February 19, 2004, 12:50:03 am »

Ah, don't forget to throw in a shameless plug for Co-op Ace, a script that Firesoul has graciously assumed most responsibilities for and enhanced a great deal. And yep, I'm still out here, if only watching. :>

Age · « **Reply #111 on:** February 20, 2004, 04:29:36 am »

Hi Crimmy would you like to see improvements to KE3Y Bird of Prey like a power of 25 so you can overload the torps and go to speed 20 while cloaked it would be nice would in it the same for tinga or K7T it would be nice if that ship cloaked too sounds nice does in it .I would like to but I do not know how to edit ships I am no computer wizzard.David Farrell told me to do it on excel but it says make a back up I am not sure how to do that.I would like to see Taldren put out shiplist editor and make it userfriendly and easy to edit and make up some of our own.What do you think pass this around to everyone on the forum if I do not get the time please.Bye the way may Klingon alter ego name is Koras and my Fed. is Mike Hanson Comes from a family of norse warriors

Ravok · « **Reply #112 on:** March 31, 2004, 11:47:51 pm »

Once again i can't thank you enough!!!!!

You Program with honor!!!

C-Los · « **Reply #117 on:** April 01, 2004, 09:02:59 am »

But I do.. but I do. In fact, lately, I watched the entire FireFly series back-to-back. (in 3-4 nights)

Loved that set...

And the "Companion".....

Potemkin · « **Reply #118 on:** April 05, 2004, 10:32:44 pm »

Nice work - y'all!

Thanks

Po~

FireSoul · « **Reply #119 on:** May 19, 2004, 10:03:26 am »

Can a moderator remove the sticky off this thread?

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