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Iceman

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98se question.
« on: January 14, 2004, 01:38:11 pm »
So, I came home from school today round 2:30 and started up the computer.  I go to open my mp3's, and all my folder settings have been returned to default.  Any ideas?  I know for a fact that I did not change them and neither did my mother, the only other person in the house at the current time.  

DreadlordGW

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2004, 01:47:51 pm »
Improper shutdown can sometimes cause the defaulting.

Beyond that i'm not sure

Iceman

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2004, 02:11:09 pm »
No, that wasn't it.  I shut it down correctly last night so that's ruled out.  Is it a virus possibly?

Another question that may/may not be related.  My dad uses outlook express for e-mail through his comcast account.  Lately we've been getting 10-15 undeliverable messages daily.  (that weren't sent from him).  Is this possibly a virus?  I know he's not sending these cause he's simply not here.  

Sirgod

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2004, 02:25:42 pm »
It almost probably is a Virus given the email part. I would def. update the virus deff. and or grab a virus scanner, I think AVG is free still. Check that out first, run a complete scan and see what comes up.

Stephen

Dallas

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2004, 02:38:03 pm »
When I used 98 sometimes the associations would get wonky for no reason.
What you said about Outlook Express sounds funky. I'd run a scan just to be
safe and then I would turn off the preview window in Outlook Express.

 

Malystryx_XC

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2004, 02:41:37 pm »
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My dad uses outlook express for e-mail through his comcast account.  Lately we've been getting 10-15 undeliverable messages daily.  (that weren't sent from him).  Is this possibly a virus?  I know he's not sending these cause he's simply not here.    




That definately sounds like it could be a virus.  Also, do you use a firewall on that machine?  If you do not, do you at least religously keep the system updated from the Microsoft Windows Update site?  There are a lot of viruses now that can infect your system quickly (within 5 minutes or less) of simply being on the Internet.  They make use of vulnerabilities in Windows code to imbed themselves into your computer.

The first thing to do is scan your system for viruses using a modern and current anti-virus program.  There are even free ones on the web that will scan your machine using the Internet.  Trend Micro has one at:  Free Anti-Virus Scan

Once you rule out any viruses (or remove them if detected) you should also run a sypware/malware detection program.  These little buggers can also cause security issues for you.  A great free program is called Spybot Search and Destroy which you can find here:  Spybot Search and Destroy   Be sure to run the update for it once installed to download the latest pattern file before using.

Lastly, get yourself a firewall if you do not already have one!  These are an absolute must in today's age of computing.  There are a number of free personal firewall packages that you can get.  One which a number of people use here is called Zone Alarm and can be retrieved from:  ZoneAlarm

Good luck and don't forget to keep your system up to date from  Windows Update Site !  

Iceman

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2004, 04:38:59 pm »
I have Norton 2003 (with the subscription, so Im up to date). I'm going to install ZoneAlarm and that Search and Destroy program you suggest, although I've run AdAware and Norton before, I hope maybe it'll find something this time.  Thanks for all the advice guys!

Javora

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2004, 11:35:23 am »
Since no one has mentioned this I would suggest running HiJack This.  This program seems to find things that others miss.  If you need help with this program you can go to the Tech Support Forums for assistance.  You may also want to go ahead and run that other virus scan, this might be a new virus that Norton has not had time to release an update for.  IMHO Norton has a poor track record in this regard.  Hope this helps.
 

KOTH-Steel Claw

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2004, 12:22:31 pm »
It could be that someone else with your dad's email address in their contact list got hit as well and the virus is using his addy to send out crud.

When was the last time you did a re-install of the OS? 98 had a tendency to need a little re-installing from time to time. You can also run Spider, AdAware, and Spybot (in that order) as well (besides keeping your AV up to date).

Iceman

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2004, 02:22:39 pm »
Spybot found 35 or so things, which were in turn removed.  Most benign, but i think it's all better now! Thank you all so much!

Towelie

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2004, 07:25:14 pm »
  Srorched Earth time for 98se! Deltree /windows /e/a (I think that was it) and deltree \progra~1 /e/a and then re-install! Anytime I had an improper shutdown or something just didn't look right...  

  Just messing around. I did re-install W98se a few times though when ever my father or something killed it.  

Barabbas

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2004, 09:34:30 am »
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No, that wasn't it.  I shut it down correctly last night so that's ruled out.  Is it a virus possibly?

Another question that may/may not be related.  My dad uses outlook express for e-mail through his comcast account.  Lately we've been getting 10-15 undeliverable messages daily.  (that weren't sent from him).  Is this possibly a virus?  I know he's not sending these cause he's simply not here.    





This could also be a spammer horking your dad's Email address for his outgoing spam.  If so, the only solution will be to change addresses.

Iceman

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2004, 10:25:44 am »
That's not really a possibility, since it's Comcast and  I don't think they support multiple addresses, but I'm not sure.  I'll have to look into it.  Thanks.

Iceman

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2004, 02:34:14 pm »
I seem to be getting closer and closer to a catastrophic failure here.  I found 6 trojan horse infections that Norton ID'd but could not repair.  Luckily it was nothing vital, so I quarantined and deleted them.  So I went to play Homeworl2, and found some issue with displaying the ships geometry.  So I download the patch, restart, and it says my ATI Drivers are out of date.  Duh, I say thats why the geometry was all buggered.  So I update.  It says to reboot, I do, and I get a bad sector error.  Can someone explain what a bad sector is?

Javora

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2004, 02:52:51 pm »
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It says to reboot, I do, and I get a bad sector error.  Can someone explain what a bad sector is?





A bad sector is usually a bad section (sector) on a hard drive.  Try doing a disk scan, for that matter try defragging the hard drive.  But do the (through) disk scan first.  It's starting to sound like your system has more than one issue here.
 

Sirgod

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2004, 03:04:26 pm »
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It says to reboot, I do, and I get a bad sector error.  Can someone explain what a bad sector is?





A bad sector is usually a bad section (sector) on a hard drive.  Try doing a disk scan, for that matter try defragging the hard drive.  But do the (through) disk scan first.  It's starting to sound like your system has more than one issue here.
   




I agree with javora here Iceman, It's pretty simple to do, Just boot into safe mode first, just to be on the safe side.

Stephen

Sethan

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2004, 03:05:09 pm »
Quote:

So I update.  It says to reboot, I do, and I get a bad sector error.  Can someone explain what a bad sector is?  




Javora is correct - the hard drive is split up into sectors, and the computer has determined that one of those sectors is bad.

There is good news and bad news regarding this.  First the good news:

- There is a utility built into Win98 which can identify the bad sectors on the drive, mark them as bad so they are not used again, and move whatever data can be recovered to sections of the drive which are not bad.  This utility is called SCANDISK.  It can be started in several ways, either from the GUI or from a command prompt.  I find the DOS version from the command prompt to be more reliable.  Restart the machine in DOS mode, and type

SCANDISK C:

at a command prompt.  This will start scandisk.  When it asks if you want it to do a surface scan, tell it Yes.  It will mark any bad sectors on the drive with a 'B'.

Now for the bad news.  Bad sectors on a drive can be caused by several different things - and most of them are degenerative.  What that means is that the bad sectors will tend to spread, ruining more of your data (or making the OS not start), or even making the drive inaccessible.

If a scandisk shows bad sectors on the drive, it is time to back up your data and replace the hard drive.

 

Maxillius

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2004, 03:27:27 pm »
Be careful when booting in DOS mode.  I've only done this once because the time I did it the thing wouldn't start Windows ever again, so I had to reinstall anyway.  

Iceman

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2004, 04:50:45 pm »
I did what you said, Sethan. Restarted in DOS mode, ran scandisk C and when it finished its thing (didn't get to the surface scan part) it said the free space is being reported incorrectly, fix, don't fix.  I chose fix and then this message popped up.  

Not enough free conventional memory to perform surface scan.

You may need to remark (REM) some device drivers from your CONFIG.SYS fle.  Or, in your CONFIG.SYS you may need to load EMM386.EXE drive to load your other device drivers into upper Memory Blocks using DEVICEHIGH= statements.

This is kind of outta my league here, but it sounds almost like a bad ram problem.

Malystryx_XC

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Re: 98se question.
« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2004, 04:59:51 pm »
Hi Iceman, don't be scared... that's actually normal because you are booting to DOS without the proper device lines being loaded to setup HMS and XMS memory (ie. Himem.sys and EMM386.exe).

With Windows 98 you can still effectively do a scandisk from within the operating system.  Just boot back to windows and click "Start>Run" and type "scandisk" at the prompt and press <ENTER>.  It will bring up the graphical Scandisk utility and you can choose to check your drive from here.  Just make sure (as was noted above) that you are choosing the "thorough" method so that it does a bad sector scan on your hard drive.  It will alert you of any problems and give you the opportunity to fix them.

As was also previously mentioned, back up any important data first... just in case!