Topic: question about Hybrid Cars/vehicles. (Read 11225 times)

Towelie · « **Reply #20 on:** January 15, 2004, 12:58:52 am »

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thanks again for the information, I'm still trying to talk my wife Into it, as she's wanting one of those $6,000 Kia things. But I've heard some bad stuff about them.

+ even though the cost would be at least 2-3 times more, I think the savings on Gas over a few years would be worth It.

Stephen

I can relay numerous bad adventures with Kias from people I know locally, mostly with the Sephias. They all swear it was the worst mistake. The local dealer has a two week wait for people to get their KIa fixed under that warranty and no loaner. I can link numerous reviews that state the same along with class action lawsuits for defects in Kias. Not to mention the really low resale value of one. Not to mention the serious safety issues on them.

Small example. A recently married couple bought new matching Kia Sephias. Two weeks later, his burned down while parked overnight. Two months later, hers did same. A driver I know bought one and lost his job because his Kia was unreliable. And another friend of ours bought one and had the manual tranny go out in first month. They were all Sephias I believe. You could always get a more reliable Pacer, Yugo, or Fiat

I only say this because I am also about to get another vehicle. I have to look at safety, mileage, handling, and reliability (so that list excludes KIA). My choices are going with Honda, Toyota, VW Jetta, and some other runner ups. The Jetta is speaking to me, it may be my first non-american car. And first with a manual transmission... ...weeee. The Jetta I took for a test drive handled WAY better than the other cars I've driven. And I was shocked it only had a 2.0 4 cylinder.

Honda and others may cost more, but you won't regret it as much. There are too many unhappy Kia owners that regret trying to save a few bucks. Of course some are quite happy, but the ratio isn't too good. There is a reason why Honda has engines in increasing number of American cars. Good luck, and if you buy a Kia, I will do a drive by when I take my vacation across the country.

Toten · « **Reply #21 on:** January 15, 2004, 01:05:27 am »

I only say this because I am also about to get another vehicle. I have to look at safety, mileage, handling, and reliability (so that list excludes KIA). My choices are going with Honda, Toyota, VW Jetta, and some other runner ups. The Jetta is speaking to me, it may be my first non-american car. And first with a manual transmission... ...weeee. The Jetta I took for a test drive handled WAY better than the other cars I've driven. And I was shocked it only had a 2.0 4 cylinder.

Towlie,

I have a 99 Passat 1.8T 5 speed manual. She gets about 650Km on 40L, has 150HP and tops out at 210Km/hr, and seats four adults comfortablly.

I am hooked now. As long as the VW stays at this level I will be buying my next passat in about 5 years.

JMM · « **Reply #24 on:** January 15, 2004, 12:15:33 pm »

Toten, even though I'm a Toyota fan, I will say you are correct, VW has done wonders with their cars lately!

Check out what Toyota has now though, hehehehehehe.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20040115/ap_on_hi_te/tech_test_self_parking_car

Sirgod · « **Reply #25 on:** January 13, 2004, 01:25:39 pm »

I was curious, about the Price of these Vehicles. Or where I could get some information about them that is Legit, I'm not a car guy by anymeans, and If I where to do a google search, I wouldn't know what is true or not.

Thanks Folks.

Stephen

JMM · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2004, 02:02:12 pm »

Callled a toyota amigo, will find out soon for base model.

JMM · « **Reply #27 on:** January 13, 2004, 02:06:24 pm »

http://www.carsdirect.com/build/style?zipcode=78746&make=TO&modelid=318&partner=greatdeals&linktype=deep&customerid=new_pulldown

JMM · « **Reply #28 on:** January 13, 2004, 02:08:28 pm »

http://www.carsdirect.com/research/honda/civic/2004/hybrid_ulev

Sirgod · « **Reply #29 on:** January 13, 2004, 02:09:26 pm »

Thanks Jack, Glad your on top of things Car wise.

I think Per our conversation, I'm going to a good long hard look at these cars.

Stephen

JMM · « **Reply #30 on:** January 13, 2004, 02:09:33 pm »

Remember Steve, in August Toyota releases the hybrid Camry, and the Camry ROCKS!

JMM · « **Reply #31 on:** January 13, 2004, 02:11:46 pm »

Prius gets better mpg, and for 900 more, 7 yr, 100,000 mile warranty

http://www.carsdirect.com/research/toyota/prius/2004/base

JMM · « **Reply #33 on:** January 13, 2004, 02:31:12 pm »

Yeah, Lexus, you got 30k laying around?

JMM · « **Reply #34 on:** January 13, 2004, 03:10:40 pm »

BTW, Lexus SUV hybrid gets released when hybrid Camry gets released.

Sirgod · « **Reply #35 on:** January 13, 2004, 03:28:05 pm »

Well forget that man, The Lexus will have to wait untill I win the Lottery or something.

Stephen

TOCXOBearslayer · « **Reply #36 on:** January 14, 2004, 05:00:40 am »

If you live in and around hills, do NOT get a Honda Sprint (?). One of the sales guys has one of these and he says that it runs well, but has lots of problems going up hill from a dead stop.

Thankfully, this part of North Carolina doesn't have many steep inclines.

Hopefully, the newer models will correct this problem.

Edited for major spelling foo-pa's

JMM · « **Reply #37 on:** January 14, 2004, 10:40:32 am »

If you buy Toyota, make sure that you DO NOT buy in the gulf states area, as the guy in Houston years ago made a deal with Toyota Motor Corp. to be the sole distributor to other dealers in 5 states, he makes 500 to 1k off each unit coming in. Damn I wish I was his son

The dealer then passes on that cost to YOU as they are not in the business of losing money. Big difference in prices of Toyotas in N.M. vs Texas, better to fly southwest airlines or AA to Las Cruces or someplace in N.M. and buy and drive home to Tejas.

Sirgod · « **Reply #39 on:** January 14, 2004, 02:28:39 pm »

thanks again for the information, I'm still trying to talk my wife Into it, as she's wanting one of those $6,000 Kia things. But I've heard some bad stuff about them.

+ even though the cost would be at least 2-3 times more, I think the savings on Gas over a few years would be worth It.

Stephen

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