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TOCXOBearslayer

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« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2004, 04:05:37 am »
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Stephan, I agree with you. Common sense is a rare commodity. The TSA agent in charge should be fired. When some people get a little power, it goes to their heads.  




Too bad they are government employee's with the government union.  

So they won't be fired.  They are immune to such things.

Gotta love unions.

Gambler

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2004, 09:43:40 am »
I was on vacation for several weeks, returning by air last Sunday, while waiting to get on the plane in Boise, we saw a woman getting off the plane with a cat in a carrier.  Apparently cat's don't fit into the definition of terrorist animals.  

What's really strange is that in the scheme of things we ban peanuts from airplanes because someone may have an allergic reaction to them.  Yet this lady has a cat.  An animal that I am extremely allergic to.  If I am pre-warned I can take a pill and keep myself from getting all puffed up etc.  However I hadn't taken one that day cause go figure, I was going on a plane.  No cats there.  Fortunately I wasn't on the plane near where the cat had been so no reaction for me.

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2004, 10:52:36 am »
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Mr. Supervisor was causing a grand scene, marshaling the full authority of the TSA to refuse me. Now, I know my fish is a terrorist (Osama Fin Laden we used to call him back at school), but doesn't it strike you as funny that, with all the commotion my little security threat was causing, by now engaging the full attention of the TSA at LaGuardia, that someone who posed a real threat to passenger safety might be conveniently slipping by?  





----------------This just in------------
While MJ(AKA X-Ray)'s pockets were being checked for the 10th time by all available personnel, Osama Bin Laden sneaks by the checkpoint and escapes the country

Tiger

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2004, 11:03:45 am »
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I was on vacation for several weeks, returning by air last Sunday, while waiting to get on the plane in Boise, we saw a woman getting off the plane with a cat in a carrier.  Apparently cat's don't fit into the definition of terrorist animals.  

What's really strange is that in the scheme of things we ban peanuts from airplanes because someone may have an allergic reaction to them.  Yet this lady has a cat.  An animal that I am extremely allergic to.  If I am pre-warned I can take a pill and keep myself from getting all puffed up etc.  However I hadn't taken one that day cause go figure, I was going on a plane.  No cats there.  Fortunately I wasn't on the plane near where the cat had been so no reaction for me.  




That's funny, I'm also alergic to cats, I love them to death, But my Eye's will swell shut at the mere Look at one.

BOT, Yep I agree, With the assesment you made about transporting animals, that one may be allergic to, However, I've never known anyone to be allergic to a fish in a bag. Shell Fish sure, If ingestid...

Oh And Dizzy, You crack me up man, Way to OTT.  

Stephen

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Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2004, 09:56:47 am »
Forum: The fish that threatened national security

College student Lara Hayhurst was not prepared to let officials treat her little pet like Osama 'fin' Laden

Sunday, December 28, 2003

Like many college students who flew home for the holidays, I had to endure the latest airport safeguards in the name of homeland security. A lot of us have stories to tell, but only mine is a fish tale, a contemporary melodrama of the absurd to prepare you for future travels.

My boyfriend Trey and I arrived by taxi at the US Airways terminal of La Guardia airport. We had four bags apiece, and one more precious piece of cargo -- MJ, my pet fish. MJ is a gorgeous fighting Betta fish, his palate a perfect pastel rainbow. He had become quite a solace to me in New York, a city that can make you feel so small and alone.

I missed my cats at college, and it really helped to have this tiny, exuberant creature to look after. Betta fish, research has shown, are the only aquatic animals that can recognize their owner. MJ was no exception. I'd walk into my cold dorm room after a long day and his body would just light up, and he would swim excited circles around his little bowl. Unfortunately, residence hall rules required that I take him home with me for winter break. That was just as well, since there would be no one there to care for him.

At La Guardia we proceeded to security and the X-ray inspection point run by the Transportation Security Administration. I have learned by now that, post-9/11, a traveler is better off safe than sorry when proceeding through security.

I wasn't prepared, however, for the TSA to stop me right at the entrance, proclaiming that no small pets, including fish, were permitted through security. I had, however, just received the blessing of the ticket agents at US Airways and pre-assured MJ's travels with Pittsburgh International Airport security weeks before our travel date. I tried to explain this to the screener who stood between me and the gates, but she would have none of it.

I was led back to the US Airways ticket counter, stocking-footed and alone, where the agents reasserted that they did not see a problem for me to have a fish on board, properly packaged in plastic fish bag and secured with a rubber band as MJ was. But the TSA supervisor was called over, and he berated me profusely. He exclaimed that in no way, under no circumstances, was a small fish allowed to pass through security, regardless of what the ticket agents said.

Mr. Supervisor was causing a grand scene, marshaling the full authority of the TSA to refuse me. Now, I know my fish is a terrorist (Osama Fin Laden we used to call him back at school), but doesn't it strike you as funny that, with all the commotion my little security threat was causing, by now engaging the full attention of the TSA at LaGuardia, that someone who posed a real threat to passenger safety might be conveniently slipping by?

By this time, I was in tears. The supervisor furiously told me to dispose of the fish. Dispose of my fish?! What did he want me to do, throw him away? He told me to go outside and give him to whomever I came to the airport with. When I explained I was a college student, alone in New York City (save for boyfriend Trey), he brushed me off and said that was not his problem.

I cried some more. With no other option that we could see, Trey and I headed toward a rest room.

Inside the ladies' room, I looked at MJ, swimming happily in his bag, and then the looming porcelain toilet bowl in front of me. I broke down. I couldn't do it.

I went back outside and told Trey I couldn't flush MJ. It was then, in this hopeless predicament, that Trey, ever brilliant and supportive, had an idea. He explained his plan to me.

Trey disappeared into the men's room with the fish and my backpack. When he got into the stall, he let out a bit of the water in MJ's bag, and packed the fish into my backpack, which only contained pants. Wedged between some corduroys and khakis, we prayed he wouldn't suffocate or get squished, not to mention fried by the security X-rays that can be fatal to small creatures such as fish. Every Web site I visited, every vet that I contacted said that air travel was no problem for Bettas, as long as I did not, under any circumstances, allow it to go through the X-ray machine.

In my research, I had learned that running a fish through an X-ray would be like a human getting radiation without wearing the protective lead cloak. At this point, though, we had no choice. We proceeded to a different security checkpoint, on the other side of the terminal.

Before we went through, Trey grabbed my hand. "Lara," he said, "you know there are only a few outcomes.

"One, they will see his bag or skeleton in the X-ray and catch us, we'll get in huge trouble for crossing security and we'll have to flush the fish. Two, he may die instantly in a blaze of glory from the X-rays. Or, he'll miraculously survive and we'll smuggle him onto the plane and pray that he survives the exposure." I shuddered and nodded.

We took a deep breath and proceeded. We loaded our things onto the belt before the X-ray machine and walked through. Once past the scanner, Trey and I grabbed our things and ran for the gates, eager to find the first bathroom to see if MJ was intact. On the way, we passed by the original security checkpoint we had tried to go through.

The agents were huddled together, and recognized us. "What did you do with the fish?" they asked, "What did you do with the fish!?"

Sensing a chance for comeuppance, Trey put on his "stone-cold-supportive-protector" face and said with great dramatics, "You know what ... we flushed him. We flushed him because you made us [pause for effect]. You killed my girlfriend's fish. No, you made her kill her fish ... Happy holidays."

I started sobbing again. Trey gave the TSA agents one last cold, steely gaze.


We turned and walked away. I smelled an Oscar.

Now in the rest room, I faced impending doom once again. I picked through my bag and found the familiar plastic. I pulled it out, and miraculously MJ was still alive!

Maybe it was God, maybe it was the corduroy, but someone wanted my fish to live. I then bought a doughnut from a coffee kiosk, placing MJ on the bottom of the paper bag I was given, and the pastry on top. Trey and I walked to the gate and checked in. A few passengers had witnessed our role in the La Guardia Christmas Security Spectacular and asked us what happened to the fish. We stuck to our story and told them it was gone.

The flight was full. I sat between two fat men who seemed intrigued by the brown paper bag I gently cradled in my lap the whole flight.

An hour and a half later, we were in Pittsburgh. We departed the people-mover, and ran one final time to the bathroom to see if MJ was OK, and he was.

Absolutely amazing. Two terminals, baggage claim and a car ride later, I was at home.

As I write this I sit with a cat in my lap and my fish, which I have aptly renamed X-ray, swimming contentedly in his glass-beaded bowl. And even though my actions may send Tom Ridge reeling and upset the karma of the Department of Homeland Security, I really don't care.

Honestly, they have bigger fish to fry.

 

Sirgod

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #25 on: January 04, 2004, 10:22:31 am »
That's an amazing story. My wife has two Bettas herself, But I didn't know that about X-rays.Of course I think It's a bit ridiculous that they wouldn't let her take her fish on the plane in the first place. As small as A Betta is, I can't figure out a way to use It as a weapon. Unless It had some biological Desease in It's bloodstream, But even then It was already in the states, and It would take along time to make a culture. More time then a trip to Pittsburgh from New York. lol

Stephen

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« Reply #26 on: January 04, 2004, 10:29:13 am »
Stephan, I agree with you. Common sense is a rare commodity. The TSA agent in charge should be fired. When some people get a little power, it goes to their heads.

I remember when I was in college, I cleaned out my desk to go home for the summer. As I was checking in, they searched my luggage, and found a 8 inch bowie knife I always kept in my desk drawer. (It is really handy to use on those hard to open letters...) They pulled it out of my carry on luggage, and I said "oops!" They were really cool about it. I apologized and they checked my luggage (knife and all) through to my destination. They had a security agent escort me to the gate and make sure I got on the plane.

I shudder to think what they would have done to me if that happened today!  

Sirgod

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« Reply #27 on: January 04, 2004, 10:33:20 am »
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Stephan, I agree with you. Common sense is a rare commodity. The TSA agent in charge should be fired. When some people get a little power, it goes to their heads.

I remember when I was in college, I cleaned out my desk to go home for the summer. As I was checking in, they searched my luggage, and found a 8 inch bowie knife I always kept in my desk drawer. (It is really handy to use on those hard to open letters...) They pulled it out of my carry on luggage, and I said "oops!" They were really cool about it. I apologized and they checked my luggage (knife and all) through to my destination. They had a security agent escort me to the gate and make sure I got on the plane.

I shudder to think what they would have done to me if that happened today!  




Well I would venture a guess that you wouldn't be here typing that message, If that happened today. I can recall taking rifles with me to the airport when I would fly to a friends house who lived up north. Of course the Rifle was never available to me in flight, But I wouldn't think about trying to bring one today.

Stephen

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #28 on: January 04, 2004, 10:39:55 am »
I believe you can still take firearms as long as they are in a locked case and checked. I did this a while ago (before 9-11), and they labeled the case and made me show ID before I picked it up. It was not put on the normal luggage racetrack.  

Sirgod

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« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2004, 11:20:26 am »
Heh , after reading this, I decided, I need to clean the Betta's Fish bowels out. Needless to say, One has passed on. I think My sister overfed Him actually. Oh well we still have one left. and now two empty bowels. :Shrugs:

Stephen

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« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2004, 03:00:26 pm »
That is EXTREMELY irresponsible thinking for her and all you who think its just OK to let a fish onboard an airplane! WHAT IS THE MATTER WITH YOU??? Do you want to kill hundreds of innocent people with that fish? IS that it???

Let me tell you something... That fish could be used to choke the flight crew if they were forced to swallow it! Then who would fly the plane? Or it could be inserted into the AC system and everyone could die from the fish fumes. Or it could be flushed down the toilet and cause the airplanes septic tanks to clog and overflow flooding the ship and drowning the crew! Or worse still, it could be used to poison airline passenges by passing it off as a sardine with crackers!

The TSA have MANY MANY reasons like these to make sure that fish are not used to crash and kill airlines and thier passengers.

Why cant you all see the pitfalls letting a FISH on board an airplane! OMG!

You all should be ashamed!  

NCC2012

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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2004, 07:25:45 pm »
And didn't you see the episode of South Park with Stan's killer goldfish?

 

TOCXOBearslayer

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2004, 04:05:37 am »
Quote:

Stephan, I agree with you. Common sense is a rare commodity. The TSA agent in charge should be fired. When some people get a little power, it goes to their heads.  




Too bad they are government employee's with the government union.  

So they won't be fired.  They are immune to such things.

Gotta love unions.

Gambler

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2004, 09:43:40 am »
I was on vacation for several weeks, returning by air last Sunday, while waiting to get on the plane in Boise, we saw a woman getting off the plane with a cat in a carrier.  Apparently cat's don't fit into the definition of terrorist animals.  

What's really strange is that in the scheme of things we ban peanuts from airplanes because someone may have an allergic reaction to them.  Yet this lady has a cat.  An animal that I am extremely allergic to.  If I am pre-warned I can take a pill and keep myself from getting all puffed up etc.  However I hadn't taken one that day cause go figure, I was going on a plane.  No cats there.  Fortunately I wasn't on the plane near where the cat had been so no reaction for me.

CFA_Admiral_Tige

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2004, 10:52:36 am »
Quote:

Mr. Supervisor was causing a grand scene, marshaling the full authority of the TSA to refuse me. Now, I know my fish is a terrorist (Osama Fin Laden we used to call him back at school), but doesn't it strike you as funny that, with all the commotion my little security threat was causing, by now engaging the full attention of the TSA at LaGuardia, that someone who posed a real threat to passenger safety might be conveniently slipping by?  





----------------This just in------------
While MJ(AKA X-Ray)'s pockets were being checked for the 10th time by all available personnel, Osama Bin Laden sneaks by the checkpoint and escapes the country

Tiger

Sirgod

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Re: Beware killer fish! NONE SHALL PASS!
« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2004, 11:03:45 am »
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I was on vacation for several weeks, returning by air last Sunday, while waiting to get on the plane in Boise, we saw a woman getting off the plane with a cat in a carrier.  Apparently cat's don't fit into the definition of terrorist animals.  

What's really strange is that in the scheme of things we ban peanuts from airplanes because someone may have an allergic reaction to them.  Yet this lady has a cat.  An animal that I am extremely allergic to.  If I am pre-warned I can take a pill and keep myself from getting all puffed up etc.  However I hadn't taken one that day cause go figure, I was going on a plane.  No cats there.  Fortunately I wasn't on the plane near where the cat had been so no reaction for me.  




That's funny, I'm also alergic to cats, I love them to death, But my Eye's will swell shut at the mere Look at one.

BOT, Yep I agree, With the assesment you made about transporting animals, that one may be allergic to, However, I've never known anyone to be allergic to a fish in a bag. Shell Fish sure, If ingestid...

Oh And Dizzy, You crack me up man, Way to OTT.  

Stephen