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Aldaron

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Re: New Enterprise tonight very cool show <-NOT!!!!
« Reply #40 on: February 20, 2003, 05:23:26 pm »
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Well.....OK see below, but I don't EVER remember Kirk firing Phasers at warp in TOS. Help me out here.






Watch the episode with the woman with the love potion tears. The Enterprise's engines were sabotaged and had to stay at sublight while the Klingon D-7 made strafing runs at warp firing disruptors, the Enterprise performed sublight tactical manuevers.

Episode where the Orion pirate makes high speed warp runs at the Enterprise , both at warp exchanging phaser shots.

I don't remember the names of the episodes but there are many Practically every battle occured at warp which is the reason SFB used the scale they did for the game.

Phasers are phased energy (ie not restricted to normal space) hence the name.  Even Rodenberry had no idea what they actually were, he just wanted something that sounded close enough to lasers (which most people had an idea about at that time but also knew they only travelled at the speed of light) but could be fired at FTL speeds. Thus his change from the Pilot episode of "The Cage" from lasers to phasers.
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SghnDubh

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Re: New Enterprise tonight very cool show <-NOT!!!!
« Reply #41 on: February 20, 2003, 05:49:42 pm »
Aldaron,

You owe me $17.99 x 6 because now I have to buy the friggin TOS episodes on DVD and re-watch them.

So yes there seems to be plenty of evidence to the contrary, but I distinctly remember someone say that phasers can't fire at warp during a TNG episode. I can't remember if it was "Q Who" and they were being chased at high warp by the cube & therefore only shot torps, or another one.

I don't need anything else to do, but this is bugging me. Gonna have to research it.


 

La'ra

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Re: New Enterprise tonight very cool show <-NOT!!!!
« Reply #42 on: February 20, 2003, 07:31:05 pm »
I like that they're getting away from that rule, no matter how much scientific sense it makes.

It looks cooler when you fire them at warp.  

Scipio_66

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Re: New Enterprise tonight very cool show <-NOT!!!!
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2003, 08:02:45 pm »
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Aldaron,

You owe me $17.99 x 6 because now I have to buy the friggin TOS episodes on DVD and re-watch them.

So yes there seems to be plenty of evidence to the contrary, but I distinctly remember someone say that phasers can't fire at warp during a TNG episode. I can't remember if it was "Q Who" and they were being chased at high warp by the cube & therefore only shot torps, or another one.

I don't need anything else to do, but this is bugging me. Gonna have to research it.


 




Watch the episode "The Ultimate Computer".  It has fleet action with several Constitution class starships vs. the Enterprise.  Standard starfleet doctrine in this episode definitely seems to be to increase your warp factor when attacking, rather than dropping out of warp before attacking.  All attack runs are preceded by an increase in warp speed, and then the Enterprise drops to lower warp speed once the enemy starship has been neutralized.

I'm not sure from where the idea comes  that you can't fire phasers at warp.  If it was in a TNG episode I think I must have missed it.

If you read the STTMP novel by Roddenberry, after the wormhole event Kirk orders the phasers set back to standard settings so that they can be fired regardless of what the warp engines are doing.  Decker tells Kirk that he and Scotty had already planned to do that as soon as they were away from stardock, and thus out from under the watchful eye of Starfleet Brass.

-S'Cipio
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Tulmahk

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Re: New Enterprise tonight very cool show <-NOT!!!!
« Reply #44 on: February 20, 2003, 08:11:22 pm »
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YOU CAN'T FIRE PHASERS AT WARP.

YOU CAN'T FIRE PHASERS AT WARP.








Tulmahk walks into Bellview where SghnDubh is kept in a strait-jacketed heap and says, "Those weren't phasers SD!  Those were 'phase cannons'."  Walks out giggling to self as SD's screams waft out of the padded cell...  

SghnDubh

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Re: New Enterprise tonight very cool show <-NOT!!!!
« Reply #45 on: February 20, 2003, 09:42:25 pm »

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