Topic: OH...MY...GOD

[Magnum357]

Why does everyone keep attacking this New BSG show as having too much SEX???  Their was barely one scene in the whole mini series that involved sex and that was in the very beginnining and it seems that the scene actually plays a huge role in the whole story..  Ya, their was some forplay and a little kissing between characters, but this was extremely superficial.  Don't you guys remember that god awful show called LEXX on the Sifi channel?  Now that was a show that was practically trying to become a porno.  When I heard the negative reveiws about the New BSG trying to do the same thing, I thought "oh [bleep], here we go again!' and thought it was going to be another LEXX.  Thank god when I watched the show that it was much higher then my expectations.  As a matter of fact, after reading all the negative articles online I'm wondering if the guys writting the articles where watching the same movie as I.  I was very impressed by the new BSG.  I hadn't been that entertained in a Sifi flick like that since the Babylon 5 series.

[WhiteKnight]

God daggit i think every boy from my generation has been blocking that name out of our heads for years.Yeah also good points about the 'tough women" thing.I have no problems with a srong women charecter i just think most writers take the easy way out and just write them as poor charectures of men insted of women that are capable or strong.I was asleep today was the show better?did that dog show up? lol

[Anthony_Scott]

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Why does everyone keep attacking this New BSG show as having too much SEX???  Their was barely one scene in the whole mini series that involved sex and that was in the very beginnining and it seems that the scene actually plays a huge role in the whole story..  Ya, their was some forplay and a little kissing between characters, but this was extremely superficial.  Don't you guys remember that god awful show called LEXX on the Sifi channel?  Now that was a show that was practically trying to become a porno.  When I heard the negative reveiws about the New BSG trying to do the same thing, I thought "oh [bleep], here we go again!' and thought it was going to be another LEXX.  Thank god when I watched the show that it was much higher then my expectations.  As a matter of fact, after reading all the negative articles online I'm wondering if the guys writting the articles where watching the same movie as I.  I was very impressed by the new BSG.  I hadn't been that entertained in a Sifi flick like that since the Babylon 5 series.  

I wholeheartedly agree with the above. I had hesitated writing anything without first sitting down and seeing all of the installemnets which, due to my hectic class schedule, I have only just done. I have no  issues with all the sex in the first episode because it was vital to show where Baltar was coming from...I also have had zero issues with Starbuck being female...It only adds to the tension between her and Apollo and that tension was clearly seen towrds the moddle of the third episode when it is doscovered that he did indeed survive...But I did have an issue with Boomer and the CPO being romantically involved in that it violates every single non-fraternization rule that I have ever seen in my days in the service. But more importantly we see a more grim and realistic universe, quite nicely depicted when the civilian fleet is spotted and the President decides that all FTL capapable ships should jump, leaving the non-FTL ships behind to be massacred.

Special FX wise this incarnation was simply breathtaking! The laws of physics are finally being obeyed, the Vipers have thrusters on the nose and wingtips (atta boy and girl FX crew-SOMEBODY did their homework) and the guns on the galactica behave well. I also enjoyed the Cylons and their upgraded look...and i will stop there because towrds the end of the third episode there is a surprise. But also at the very end we see the renegade fleet and battlestar in the fashion we have come to know and love...it looks like they resurrected some of the old models from the original series and added them, kind of like a nod to the old series.

Whew, a longer than usual post

Semper Fi, Carry On

[ancientangel]

Let me start this possible long post by saying this. I liked it enough to keep me watching it for awhile if it becomes a regular series. I just wish they would have played it smart and madde the Mini-series at least a 3 parter. To allow for more character and general history developement. (which I will explain latter on in the posting). The only other issue I have with the show is the hard hitting way they brought things to your attention. There method was like taking a sledge hammer to nail a picture frame to the wall, in some cases its needed in others its not aways called for.

As for Starbuck and or Boomer being female, I do not have any issues with it. I just wish she had more character developement or history info which could have been fixed with another 2 hour installment. Instead  they forced her attitude style by forciing an issue with the XO. I think with more time this character will have some good potential.

Boomer & the Lead Flight Deck Officer, their relationship would have been better handled in a flash back scene. This is another area they forced an issue on you hard and fast to get the point to stick. I do not know about you but having a romp like they did after a flight would not be viewed well with the ships captain. When I saw this on the show at first I thought Adama (sp?) was an old school iron horse ship captain. But to me that little scene did more damage to the way the ships crew hold their respect to their ships captain.

40 years after the first Cylon War really needed more developement. So are we to take the original Tv show as that first Cylon War? Is the Galatica that same original one that has under gone a refit? What do the new Battle Stars look like ? Why is there no record of the first Galatica and the rag-tag fleet heading for Earth 40 years ago? Or is that group the legendary 13 colony?  Anyways you see where I am going.

As for realism, man I do not think you could get an closer to real life. A wide based Cylon first strike with no concern of loss of life. Utter Genocide of the human race combative or otherwise there is no distiction which is about time a show pushes this issue.  The whole #6 scene with Baltar at his house right before the first strike, simply Awesome! and it can be  summed up with this line 'get down". Humanities childern are coming home.

Over all its a good Mini-series, I just wish they would have opted for another 2 hour slot to allow for more developement.  

[yeaterk]

what 3rd part as the following say, ithought it was a 2 part movie? did i miss one?


 But also at the very end we see the renegade fleet and battlestar in the fashion we have come to know and love...it looks like they resurrected some of the old models from the original series and added them, kind of like a nod to the old series.
 

[starwolf3500]

This show was terrible.

1.)  Pacing of the whole show was so slow and boring it was hard to get any feeling for the characters.  There was the scene with Baltar getting a "hand" from #6 in his mind and then getting caught by the crewman.  Funniest scene in the whole show.  Couldn't remember it 30 minutes later because of how numb my mind was with the pace of the show.

2.)  A lot of people have commented on how great it was to see emotion and huma disfunctions on the show.  If you call what was seen on this show a good representation of human emotion you've been watching too many episodes of Friends or some other rot.  These people walked around like they were on thorazine and viagra.  They were either stonefaced or kissing / grabbing somebody.  I mean, come on, the scene with the black girl just walking up and kissing that guy in the passage way?  I understand that she might have been happy to be alive but there wasn't a whole lot of interaction between the two before that so the whole thing was really out of place.  Baltar's snivelling manner was about the only thing close to good characterization.  As for queen B Starbuck (you know which B word I mean).  Here we have the typical Hollywood "bigger set than any man" character.  Well, guess what, I have met women who would make little miss bad ass go home crying for her mommy.  These women don't need the B attitude.  They've earned the respect of the men that they deal with.  You want a couple of good examples of strong women in a military setting?  One:  Ripley is a great example of type 1.  Human fears but when it comes time to get the job done, she'll get it done.  Two (using Aliens again):  Remember Torres?  The latino woman in the marine squad.  Do you think any man in that unit would mess with her?  I don't.  She wasn't a queen B, she just knew she was better than them and didn't have to prove it.

3.)  Military life as represented on this show.  Yeah right!  Having served 6 years on an aircraft carrier what I saw represented here was a true joke.  Discipline, not!  Tactics, not!  How long did the cold war last?  We still trained like we were going to fight.  How could any non-cleared person get access to the main defense computers?  I don't care who she was with.  I remember the background check that was done on me for my clearance, which wasn't even Top Secret.  For high clearances, they go back to day 1 folks.  They do 1 on 1 interviews with people to confirm what the "records" say.  #6 wouldn't have passed.

4.)  I will admit that the vehicles themselves were ok.  The realistic flight was a nice thing to see but, how come the colonials didn't have missles too?  Real simple, effective weapon.  Why wasn't the Galactica hitting the BaseStar ships with missles of her own?  Why didn't the two BaseStars coordinate their fire?  Why did the Cylons attack only along one vector?  

5.)  You want to know why there were human looking Cylons?  The director said it himself, to save production problems and lets not forget that it gives the directer a set of boobs to show off.

In closing, let me say, I thank God that B5 is out on video/dvd.  At least I can see good sci fi writing there.

P.S.  Of course this was going to become a series.  They spent too much money making it not to do the series.

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[ancientangel]

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In closing, let me say, I thank God that B5 is out on video/dvd.  At least I can see good sci fi writing there.

P.S.  Of course this was going to become a series.  They spent too much money making it not to do the series.

 

Well the good news Farscape is now shooting a 4 hour Mini-series with out a buyer for the show.  Besides I saved a ton of money by switching to Geico.

I still have Mixed fealings about the show. I would like to compair it to a well known line of movies of the "Highlander" series. Atleast they did not come from the planet Ziest! It was a good attempt but  the overall developement of the story was to bland. For the most part this Battle Star Galatica has similarities to Robotech. One lone Battleship and a large civilain population attached to it (70,000 instead of the 50K in the show). But before I go any futher the original BSG came out a good 3 years (atleast) before Robotech.  

[jimkirk]

W odpowiedzi na:
 ... When I heard the negative reveiws about the New BSG trying to do the same thing, I thought "oh [bleep], here we go again!' and thought it was going to be another LEXX.  Thank god when I watched the show that it was much higher then my expectations. (...)  

What's wrong with the LEXX series in your opinion??? I remember I've enjoyed a couple of seasons like Stargate series  

[Magnum357]

Well, if you liked LEXX, then you have much different tastes in shows then I.  

I do agree with a few of the points that Starwolf had pointed out (ex. more cordinated attack/defense, Colonials using missiles, Starbuck should be acting more like Vasquez on Aliens then a Queen B, etc) but these are minor flaws that can be corrected if someone tells the creators for the series.  I'm just saying the show was A LOT better then what I was expecting and I expect a lot out of shows as I get older.