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Javora

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IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« on: December 08, 2003, 07:05:56 pm »
It looks like IBM scored an early victory in its battle with SCO over the Linux code.  Computerworld is reporting that "SCO has just over 30 days to detail IBM's alleged violations".  while it is not over yet, this to me looks like the beginning of the end for SCO, the next thirty (30) days will be interesting.  You can find the article here.  Here is the story:


Quote:


Court rules for IBM in preliminary SCO hearing

SCO has just over 30 days to detail IBM's alleged violations

Story by Robert McMillan

DECEMBER 08, 2003 ( IDG NEWS SERVICE ) - A judge ruled in favor of IBM in two motions argued in a Utah district court Friday in its ongoing legal dispute with The SCO Group Inc., a SCO spokesman confirmed.
The motions asked the court to compel SCO to provide more details about the intellectual property violations that it alleges IBM committed by contributing Unix code to the Linux operating system. The motions were argued in the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah.

"IBM has said all along that SCO has failed to show evidence to back its claims. We are very pleased that the court has indicated it will compel SCO to finally back up its claims instead of relying on marketplace FUD [fear, uncertainty and doubt]," said a spokeswoman for IBM.

The legal dispute between the companies dates to March, when Lindon, Utah-based SCO sued IBM for more than $1 billion, claiming that IBM had destroyed SCO's Unix business by illegally contributing software to Linux.

SCO has so far been unable to provide any meaningful details of how IBM may have violated its intellectual property rights, IBM lawyers argued in court filings. It chose instead to inundate IBM with "46 CDs containing over 900,000 pages of source code," the lawyers wrote.

"SCO may not, as it apparently intends to, dump hundreds of thousands of pages of paper and [millions of] lines of computer source code on IBM, and shift to IBM the burden to answer [SCO's claims] based on information buried somewhere in those materials," the lawyers wrote in the filings.

Friday's ruling means that SCO has just over 30 days to provide IBM with more details about the nature of the alleged violations, said SCO spokesman Blake Stowell. A judge will revisit the issue Jan. 23 to evaluate whether SCO has responded appropriately.

On that date, SCO also plans to request further materials from IBM, including the source code to its AIX Unix operating system, Stowell said. "This is a normal course of action in a court case, and we look forward to providing what they're asking for, and we look forward to requesting items of them that they have not yet provided," he said.

SCO's arguments weren't made by a representative of its high-profile legal firm, Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, but by Brent Hatch of the law firm Hatch, James & Dodge PC, and by Kevin McBride, the brother of SCO CEO Darl McBride and a lawyer with the law firm Angelo Barry & Banta PC. Brent Hatch is the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).

Kevin McBride was also a contributor to Darl McBride's Open Letter on Copyright, which was posted to SCO's Web site on Thursday (see story), Stowell said.

Separately, SCO announced Friday that it had pushed back the announcement of the financial results for its fiscal 2003 by two weeks. The delay is necessary to finalize accounting on a recent $50 million investment that was made in the firm by BayStar Capital, SCO said.

Revenue for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2003 should be in line with the $22 million to $25 million it had previously estimated, SCO said.




 

Toasty0

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2003, 07:22:44 pm »
Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  

TB613

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2003, 07:26:37 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




It was new to me, I missed it before.  

jualdeaux

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2003, 07:52:43 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




And I posted it a few days before that I believe.  

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2003, 07:58:55 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  





You did?  The joys of selective memory.    Unless of course I missed another thread?

This is the topic I saw by jualdeaux .
 
Open letter from "Darl McBride".  

Associated link SCO Must Prove in Thirty Days .  

 

Demandred

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2003, 04:41:10 am »
Expect another round of FUD from SCO any time now - their stock is dropping like a rock after Friday. Here's what Yahoo Finance shows from Monday trading:

Last Trade: 15.27
Trade Time: Dec 8
Change:  1.32 (7.96%)
Prev Close: 16.59  

Javora

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2003, 05:58:07 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




Just shows how much time I've spent reading around here lately.  
 

Javora

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IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2003, 07:05:56 pm »
It looks like IBM scored an early victory in its battle with SCO over the Linux code.  Computerworld is reporting that "SCO has just over 30 days to detail IBM's alleged violations".  while it is not over yet, this to me looks like the beginning of the end for SCO, the next thirty (30) days will be interesting.  You can find the article here.  Here is the story:


Quote:


Court rules for IBM in preliminary SCO hearing

SCO has just over 30 days to detail IBM's alleged violations

Story by Robert McMillan

DECEMBER 08, 2003 ( IDG NEWS SERVICE ) - A judge ruled in favor of IBM in two motions argued in a Utah district court Friday in its ongoing legal dispute with The SCO Group Inc., a SCO spokesman confirmed.
The motions asked the court to compel SCO to provide more details about the intellectual property violations that it alleges IBM committed by contributing Unix code to the Linux operating system. The motions were argued in the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah.

"IBM has said all along that SCO has failed to show evidence to back its claims. We are very pleased that the court has indicated it will compel SCO to finally back up its claims instead of relying on marketplace FUD [fear, uncertainty and doubt]," said a spokeswoman for IBM.

The legal dispute between the companies dates to March, when Lindon, Utah-based SCO sued IBM for more than $1 billion, claiming that IBM had destroyed SCO's Unix business by illegally contributing software to Linux.

SCO has so far been unable to provide any meaningful details of how IBM may have violated its intellectual property rights, IBM lawyers argued in court filings. It chose instead to inundate IBM with "46 CDs containing over 900,000 pages of source code," the lawyers wrote.

"SCO may not, as it apparently intends to, dump hundreds of thousands of pages of paper and [millions of] lines of computer source code on IBM, and shift to IBM the burden to answer [SCO's claims] based on information buried somewhere in those materials," the lawyers wrote in the filings.

Friday's ruling means that SCO has just over 30 days to provide IBM with more details about the nature of the alleged violations, said SCO spokesman Blake Stowell. A judge will revisit the issue Jan. 23 to evaluate whether SCO has responded appropriately.

On that date, SCO also plans to request further materials from IBM, including the source code to its AIX Unix operating system, Stowell said. "This is a normal course of action in a court case, and we look forward to providing what they're asking for, and we look forward to requesting items of them that they have not yet provided," he said.

SCO's arguments weren't made by a representative of its high-profile legal firm, Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, but by Brent Hatch of the law firm Hatch, James & Dodge PC, and by Kevin McBride, the brother of SCO CEO Darl McBride and a lawyer with the law firm Angelo Barry & Banta PC. Brent Hatch is the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).

Kevin McBride was also a contributor to Darl McBride's Open Letter on Copyright, which was posted to SCO's Web site on Thursday (see story), Stowell said.

Separately, SCO announced Friday that it had pushed back the announcement of the financial results for its fiscal 2003 by two weeks. The delay is necessary to finalize accounting on a recent $50 million investment that was made in the firm by BayStar Capital, SCO said.

Revenue for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2003 should be in line with the $22 million to $25 million it had previously estimated, SCO said.




 

Toasty0

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2003, 07:22:44 pm »
Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  

TB613

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2003, 07:26:37 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




It was new to me, I missed it before.  

jualdeaux

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2003, 07:52:43 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




And I posted it a few days before that I believe.  

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2003, 07:58:55 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  





You did?  The joys of selective memory.    Unless of course I missed another thread?

This is the topic I saw by jualdeaux .
 
Open letter from "Darl McBride".  

Associated link SCO Must Prove in Thirty Days .  

 

Demandred

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2003, 04:41:10 am »
Expect another round of FUD from SCO any time now - their stock is dropping like a rock after Friday. Here's what Yahoo Finance shows from Monday trading:

Last Trade: 15.27
Trade Time: Dec 8
Change:  1.32 (7.96%)
Prev Close: 16.59  

Javora

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2003, 05:58:07 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




Just shows how much time I've spent reading around here lately.  
 

Javora

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IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2003, 07:05:56 pm »
It looks like IBM scored an early victory in its battle with SCO over the Linux code.  Computerworld is reporting that "SCO has just over 30 days to detail IBM's alleged violations".  while it is not over yet, this to me looks like the beginning of the end for SCO, the next thirty (30) days will be interesting.  You can find the article here.  Here is the story:


Quote:


Court rules for IBM in preliminary SCO hearing

SCO has just over 30 days to detail IBM's alleged violations

Story by Robert McMillan

DECEMBER 08, 2003 ( IDG NEWS SERVICE ) - A judge ruled in favor of IBM in two motions argued in a Utah district court Friday in its ongoing legal dispute with The SCO Group Inc., a SCO spokesman confirmed.
The motions asked the court to compel SCO to provide more details about the intellectual property violations that it alleges IBM committed by contributing Unix code to the Linux operating system. The motions were argued in the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah.

"IBM has said all along that SCO has failed to show evidence to back its claims. We are very pleased that the court has indicated it will compel SCO to finally back up its claims instead of relying on marketplace FUD [fear, uncertainty and doubt]," said a spokeswoman for IBM.

The legal dispute between the companies dates to March, when Lindon, Utah-based SCO sued IBM for more than $1 billion, claiming that IBM had destroyed SCO's Unix business by illegally contributing software to Linux.

SCO has so far been unable to provide any meaningful details of how IBM may have violated its intellectual property rights, IBM lawyers argued in court filings. It chose instead to inundate IBM with "46 CDs containing over 900,000 pages of source code," the lawyers wrote.

"SCO may not, as it apparently intends to, dump hundreds of thousands of pages of paper and [millions of] lines of computer source code on IBM, and shift to IBM the burden to answer [SCO's claims] based on information buried somewhere in those materials," the lawyers wrote in the filings.

Friday's ruling means that SCO has just over 30 days to provide IBM with more details about the nature of the alleged violations, said SCO spokesman Blake Stowell. A judge will revisit the issue Jan. 23 to evaluate whether SCO has responded appropriately.

On that date, SCO also plans to request further materials from IBM, including the source code to its AIX Unix operating system, Stowell said. "This is a normal course of action in a court case, and we look forward to providing what they're asking for, and we look forward to requesting items of them that they have not yet provided," he said.

SCO's arguments weren't made by a representative of its high-profile legal firm, Boies, Schiller & Flexner LLP, but by Brent Hatch of the law firm Hatch, James & Dodge PC, and by Kevin McBride, the brother of SCO CEO Darl McBride and a lawyer with the law firm Angelo Barry & Banta PC. Brent Hatch is the son of Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah).

Kevin McBride was also a contributor to Darl McBride's Open Letter on Copyright, which was posted to SCO's Web site on Thursday (see story), Stowell said.

Separately, SCO announced Friday that it had pushed back the announcement of the financial results for its fiscal 2003 by two weeks. The delay is necessary to finalize accounting on a recent $50 million investment that was made in the firm by BayStar Capital, SCO said.

Revenue for the fourth quarter of fiscal 2003 should be in line with the $22 million to $25 million it had previously estimated, SCO said.




 

Toasty0

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2003, 07:22:44 pm »
Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  

TB613

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2003, 07:26:37 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




It was new to me, I missed it before.  

jualdeaux

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #17 on: December 08, 2003, 07:52:43 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




And I posted it a few days before that I believe.  

IKV Nemesis D7L

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #18 on: December 08, 2003, 07:58:55 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  





You did?  The joys of selective memory.    Unless of course I missed another thread?

This is the topic I saw by jualdeaux .
 
Open letter from "Darl McBride".  

Associated link SCO Must Prove in Thirty Days .  

 

Demandred

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2003, 04:41:10 am »
Expect another round of FUD from SCO any time now - their stock is dropping like a rock after Friday. Here's what Yahoo Finance shows from Monday trading:

Last Trade: 15.27
Trade Time: Dec 8
Change:  1.32 (7.96%)
Prev Close: 16.59  

Javora

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Re: IBM - 1 SCO - 0
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2003, 05:58:07 pm »
Quote:

Old news, bro. I posted about this 3 days ago.  




Just shows how much time I've spent reading around here lately.