Topic: Question about police traffic stops...  (Read 14713 times)

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Iceman

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #60 on: December 08, 2003, 07:57:28 am »
My one experience so far (I'm only 17 ya know!)

I was following a friend to his house in Fitchburg, ma.  We were both speeding a bit, about 100 in a 55.  The third friend (behind me) falls back for some reason (i hadn't noticed at the time).  My cell phone rings JUST as I can see the headlights like 2 feet away from my rear bumper.  The cop pulls in front of me and gets the friend in fronts license plate too.  Pulls us BOTH over.  

"Where you boys goin tonight?"  So I told him
"What are you doing up that way?"  We were doing some pilot training.
"You think this car is an aircraft?" No, Sir.
Goes back to talk with friend again.  Comes back.

"Do you know what the fine is for 100 in a 55?"
"Stupid, Sir?"
"Besides that it's a $350 ticket."
*lowers head into lap*
"Now slow the [bleep] down". Walks away with the ticket in his hand.

It was so close.  My friends and I think the only reaason we didn't get tickets is because he would have had to arrest us all, and the shift was almost over.

SL-Punisher

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #61 on: December 08, 2003, 12:24:37 pm »
Well the thought occured to me after I pulled away. Interesting bit of information, around 75% of traffic stops on the high way are either in the fast or the slow lane, and most of the time they'll pull you over if you're changing lanes frequently.

Tremok

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #62 on: December 08, 2003, 02:55:51 pm »
 I have been driving for many years now and I have not yet been pulled over.  

I'll go 10-15 over if I am relatively alone on the road. In traffic go with the flow of traffic. Get in the lane I need to be in and stay in the lane. Go nice and slow through interchanges and stoplights. Go slow enough so that drivers joining the road have a chance to see you.

If pulled over, put wallet, license, and insurance on dash before officer arrives. Probably good idea to take keys out of ignition and put them on the dash as well. Hands on steering wheel so the officer can see them. Be polite and honest.

Has worked for me so far.  
 

GE-Raven

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #63 on: December 08, 2003, 03:08:23 pm »
If/when I am pulled over I normally do the following.

As soon as car is stopped I jump out and run back towards the police cruiser while reaching inside my jacket for my I.D.

Then I wait for the cop to get out.

When he does I try and distract him and grab his gun.  Cops appreciate you helping them keep on their tows.  They normally have a good laugh when they realize it was all in good fun.

If the police officer is a male I look at his name on the uniform and then begin musing on how I once 'banged" a chic with that name, ask him if his wife or sister lives nearby your local bar.

If the officer is female I normally ask if it is true that most female police officers are lesbians.  Then I ask if she and her girlfriend would be up for a threesome.  If she gets rough I tell her how much it turns me on and then make a comment about how I bet she wishes she had a penis.

So far this has worked well for me.

GE-Raven
 

Tremok

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #64 on: December 08, 2003, 03:12:28 pm »
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So far this has worked well for me.  




 What is your objective?    

Dogmatix!

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #65 on: December 08, 2003, 03:33:05 pm »
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So far this has worked well for me.  




 What is your objective?    





I think it was to be funny.  I'll leave it up to you to decide whether he was.  I have no comment.  


 

Matsukasi

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #66 on: December 08, 2003, 03:35:52 pm »
1. Pull off the highway. We lose cops every year when rubberneckers stop paying attention to the road and fixate on the shiny flashing lights.

2. Keeping your hands on the wheel is sufficient. Odds are you're going to have high beams going through your rear window anyway.

3. Wait until he asks. Then when he does ask, tell him you need to reach into your pocket to get it.

4. Lying is stupid, and no matter what BS story you think you've invented, he's heard it a thousand times before. Why annoy the guy responsible for writing or NOT writing you an expensive ticket?

 

Kortez

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #67 on: December 08, 2003, 04:00:34 pm »
I have a certain disrespect for traffic cops.  Perhaps that's because I have been badly dealt with by such cops on a few occasions.  It has tinged my attitude towards them in a negative way.  I am biased against traffic cops.  I am prejudiced against them--yes, I admit it.  I am a traffic-coppist.  Hell, just today one almost crashed into me in his haste to speed away, all without use of his signals, his cop lights, and with extreme recklessness, for what reason I know not.

I have had shouting matches with traffic cops.  I've mocked them, asked them if they were eating donuts, and I once told one he lied to me.  He WAS lying, too.  Never mind that I was risking my safety.  Whenever I have been fairly pulled I have not said a word impolitely.

I do not keep my hands on the wheel.  I keep them at my sides, for that is where they naturally go.  I don't reach for anything, and if he asks me for my license I have never asked for permission to reach into my wallet.  I figure since he has made the demand he must expect me to get the license and registration.

During my life, I have been misticketed 4 separate times, the most recently at a time when the cop absolutely lied about using radar on me.

Do I think all traffic cops are bad?  No way.  I have even gotten away with speeding a couple of times, just with a creative excuse once, and when I was 18, I think I once made a traffic cop want to kill me, but in the end in exchange for my admission I sped to beat a red light, he let me go, telling me I reminded him of his son.
 

762

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #68 on: December 08, 2003, 04:24:39 pm »
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During my life, I have been misticketed 4 separate times, the most recently at a time when the cop absolutely lied about using radar on me.
 




Isn't that just super? They have absolutely zero burden of proof on this.

Cop: "I clocked him doing 75 in a 55."

Judge: "Case over! Guilty as hell!"

 

Iceman

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #69 on: December 08, 2003, 08:29:00 pm »
Not really.  In most courts its basically one word against another, unless there were 2 people in the car. (or 2 cops)

Kortez

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #70 on: December 08, 2003, 09:01:32 pm »
I had my wife in the car when the lying cop pulled me over.  He had it all figured out.  I was cited for doing 46 in a 30, which was enough, by 1 mph, to screw me insurance-wise.

Do you think numbers is a lock?  Don't think that.
 

762

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #71 on: December 09, 2003, 08:37:25 am »
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Not really.  In most courts its basically one word against another, unless there were 2 people in the car. (or 2 cops)  




Apparently not in Suffolk County, NY. I've seen multiple times in traffic court where cops will say X and defendant will say Y, and cop always wins.  
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Kortez

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #72 on: December 09, 2003, 10:25:35 am »
The ticket happened just south of Route 9 on Weston Road, inm Wellesley, MA.  I was infuriated, and my wife immediately looked over and said "oh oh you are doing 36 in a 30."  I think she was right.  I have a really good radar detector.  His radar was off.  When he pulled me over, he must have seen the radar detector because he went BACK to his car, reached in, and all kinds of radar and laser warnings went off in my car.

I flat out told him, "you did not have any radar or laser on until you went back to your car and turned it on.  Why are you doing this?  I was NOT doing 46."  He ignored me totally.
 

Rob Cole

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #73 on: December 09, 2003, 10:51:03 am »
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During my life, I have been misticketed 4 separate times, the most recently at a time when the cop absolutely lied about using radar on me.
 




Isn't that just super? They have absolutely zero burden of proof on this.

Cop: "I clocked him doing 75 in a 55."

Judge: "Case over! Guilty as hell!"

   




Not so here In my state they have to show you if you ask,
Sad thing is most people don't know to ask to see the radar screen.

Also  if the radar was not calibrated recently ,ya can get off Scot free.

James_Smith

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #74 on: December 09, 2003, 12:33:27 pm »
I'm pretty sure that in Britain they have to calibrate it each morning, if they haven't done it (and they frequently don't) then you're let off.

I have an issue with traffic police in Derbyshire (the county adjacent to Staffordshire where I live) - they will pull you over if they feel like harassing someone, even if you weren't doing anything wrong. They are, however, monumentally stupid in some areas of the county...

There's one area that they ALWAYS (and I mean that) camp at with a radar gun trying to get people. It's a downhill road, so it's very easy to get caught a little way past the speed limit. Sadly, from their point of view, I know exactly where they are, and what range they can work at (the position they take up limits how close they can work). So I go tanking up to them at a fair rate of knots, stand the car on it's nose with the brakes, and crawl past waving at them. The reaction is usually explosive....  Next time I go down there I'll probably try take a mate along and get him to take a photo of them.
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IntgrSpin

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #75 on: December 09, 2003, 01:28:25 pm »
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Apparently not in Suffolk County, NY. I've seen multiple times in traffic court where cops will say X and defendant will say Y, and cop always wins.




That's because most of the time, the defendant is lying.  

In my experience, the Suffolk cops aren't so bad. I've gotten only one BS ticket in 15years of driving (38 in a 35) and that was in Nassau (plus, I WAS guilty   ). Avoid Merrick road in Nassau!

 

762

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #76 on: December 09, 2003, 01:34:52 pm »
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Apparently not in Suffolk County, NY. I've seen multiple times in traffic court where cops will say X and defendant will say Y, and cop always wins.




That's because most of the time, the defendant is lying.  




But the judge doesn't know that.  

Demandred

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #77 on: December 09, 2003, 01:39:51 pm »
Police should have to prove what they claim. In this day and age, any fool can get the evidence on camera - even traffic police.

SL-Punisher

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #78 on: December 09, 2003, 04:08:53 pm »
Depends on what you mean by proof. Eyewitness testimony is the least credible form of evidence, but it's still commonly accepted in courts. Since a traffic stop is usually a civil matter they don't have a heavy burden of proof...and when it comes down to "He said, she said" situations the police officer always wins out.

Of course, cops HATE to go to court so you might be able to get off if you show up in person and the cop isn't present.

762

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Re: Question about police traffic stops...
« Reply #79 on: December 09, 2003, 04:15:06 pm »
That's my point pun. "He said she said" does not meet the standard anywhere else except in traffic court. They should require more than that, like a permanent record from the radar gun.