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TarMinyatur

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Technical help requested for ATA setting
« on: December 05, 2003, 04:05:10 pm »
I bought a new 40GB ATA133 harddrive (Maxtor OEM) to replace my old 3.2GB drive. The new HD (primary master) may be running at ATA133 but the boot information still lists it as ATA33.

My motherboard is a Biostar M7VIG (Athlon XP cpu, 266FSB) with an ATA133 controller (at least that's what the sticker says). The manual states that it supports Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 Bus Master Mode.

Award BIOS settings:
PIO mode is Auto (I've tried Mode4, it didn't change anything visibly)
UDMA mode is Auto (only other option is disabled).

I'm running Win98SE. I installed all the Biostar motherboard's software (VIA 4in1 drivers).

Device Manager:
Disk Drives = Generic IDE Disk Type47 (DMA setting is checked)
HD controller = VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller (driver is VATAPI.vxd v2.0.950.120 copyright 2000-2005)
DMA controller (MS vmm32.vxd driver, setting=4) is working properly

Any ideas besides updating the BIOS?

Sethan

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Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2003, 04:15:47 pm »
Did you replace the 40 wire data cable with an 80 wire cable to support the higher data transfer rate?

TarMinyatur

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Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2003, 05:34:39 pm »
Nope. I wasn't aware of an 80 wire IDE cable requirement. I'll take a look at the one I have, though I bet that it is a 40 wire since it is 5 years old or so.

Thanks.

SL-Punisher

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Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2003, 06:45:22 pm »
Keeping in mind that if you have any slower devices on the same IDE channel that it will drop down to the speed of the slowest device.  

SL-Punisher

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Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2003, 06:46:42 pm »
ATA 133 is pretty much unrealised potential. Many of the technology magazines have done comparison tests and the results show that ATA133 isn't really much faster than ATA100. In fact, you might be better off picking up the ATA100 drives with the large 8MB buffer.

TarMinyatur

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Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2003, 07:47:28 pm »
I really only needed more storage. ATA33 seems good enough. I just wondered if there was something I could do to take advantage of the ATA66+ capabilities. The HD doesn't share an IDE channel so an 80C cable might do the trick.

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2003, 02:42:09 am »
Thanks for your help. The 80C cable worked. I now have ATA133 (at least nominally). My computer is noticably quicker at moving files about and loading stuff.

Sethan

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2003, 02:54:55 am »
Quote:

Thanks for your help. The 80C cable worked. I now have ATA133 (at least nominally). My computer is noticably quicker at moving files about and loading stuff.  




No problem - if you haven't seen them before, there is no reason you would know about them.

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2003, 04:05:10 pm »
I bought a new 40GB ATA133 harddrive (Maxtor OEM) to replace my old 3.2GB drive. The new HD (primary master) may be running at ATA133 but the boot information still lists it as ATA33.

My motherboard is a Biostar M7VIG (Athlon XP cpu, 266FSB) with an ATA133 controller (at least that's what the sticker says). The manual states that it supports Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 Bus Master Mode.

Award BIOS settings:
PIO mode is Auto (I've tried Mode4, it didn't change anything visibly)
UDMA mode is Auto (only other option is disabled).

I'm running Win98SE. I installed all the Biostar motherboard's software (VIA 4in1 drivers).

Device Manager:
Disk Drives = Generic IDE Disk Type47 (DMA setting is checked)
HD controller = VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller (driver is VATAPI.vxd v2.0.950.120 copyright 2000-2005)
DMA controller (MS vmm32.vxd driver, setting=4) is working properly

Any ideas besides updating the BIOS?

Sethan

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2003, 04:15:47 pm »
Did you replace the 40 wire data cable with an 80 wire cable to support the higher data transfer rate?

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2003, 05:34:39 pm »
Nope. I wasn't aware of an 80 wire IDE cable requirement. I'll take a look at the one I have, though I bet that it is a 40 wire since it is 5 years old or so.

Thanks.

SL-Punisher

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2003, 06:45:22 pm »
Keeping in mind that if you have any slower devices on the same IDE channel that it will drop down to the speed of the slowest device.  

SL-Punisher

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #12 on: December 05, 2003, 06:46:42 pm »
ATA 133 is pretty much unrealised potential. Many of the technology magazines have done comparison tests and the results show that ATA133 isn't really much faster than ATA100. In fact, you might be better off picking up the ATA100 drives with the large 8MB buffer.

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #13 on: December 05, 2003, 07:47:28 pm »
I really only needed more storage. ATA33 seems good enough. I just wondered if there was something I could do to take advantage of the ATA66+ capabilities. The HD doesn't share an IDE channel so an 80C cable might do the trick.

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #14 on: December 06, 2003, 02:42:09 am »
Thanks for your help. The 80C cable worked. I now have ATA133 (at least nominally). My computer is noticably quicker at moving files about and loading stuff.

Sethan

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2003, 02:54:55 am »
Quote:

Thanks for your help. The 80C cable worked. I now have ATA133 (at least nominally). My computer is noticably quicker at moving files about and loading stuff.  




No problem - if you haven't seen them before, there is no reason you would know about them.

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2003, 04:05:10 pm »
I bought a new 40GB ATA133 harddrive (Maxtor OEM) to replace my old 3.2GB drive. The new HD (primary master) may be running at ATA133 but the boot information still lists it as ATA33.

My motherboard is a Biostar M7VIG (Athlon XP cpu, 266FSB) with an ATA133 controller (at least that's what the sticker says). The manual states that it supports Ultra DMA 33/66/100/133 Bus Master Mode.

Award BIOS settings:
PIO mode is Auto (I've tried Mode4, it didn't change anything visibly)
UDMA mode is Auto (only other option is disabled).

I'm running Win98SE. I installed all the Biostar motherboard's software (VIA 4in1 drivers).

Device Manager:
Disk Drives = Generic IDE Disk Type47 (DMA setting is checked)
HD controller = VIA Bus Master PCI IDE Controller (driver is VATAPI.vxd v2.0.950.120 copyright 2000-2005)
DMA controller (MS vmm32.vxd driver, setting=4) is working properly

Any ideas besides updating the BIOS?

Sethan

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2003, 04:15:47 pm »
Did you replace the 40 wire data cable with an 80 wire cable to support the higher data transfer rate?

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2003, 05:34:39 pm »
Nope. I wasn't aware of an 80 wire IDE cable requirement. I'll take a look at the one I have, though I bet that it is a 40 wire since it is 5 years old or so.

Thanks.

SL-Punisher

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2003, 06:45:22 pm »
Keeping in mind that if you have any slower devices on the same IDE channel that it will drop down to the speed of the slowest device.  

SL-Punisher

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #20 on: December 05, 2003, 06:46:42 pm »
ATA 133 is pretty much unrealised potential. Many of the technology magazines have done comparison tests and the results show that ATA133 isn't really much faster than ATA100. In fact, you might be better off picking up the ATA100 drives with the large 8MB buffer.

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #21 on: December 05, 2003, 07:47:28 pm »
I really only needed more storage. ATA33 seems good enough. I just wondered if there was something I could do to take advantage of the ATA66+ capabilities. The HD doesn't share an IDE channel so an 80C cable might do the trick.

TarMinyatur

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #22 on: December 06, 2003, 02:42:09 am »
Thanks for your help. The 80C cable worked. I now have ATA133 (at least nominally). My computer is noticably quicker at moving files about and loading stuff.

Sethan

  • Guest
Re: Technical help requested for ATA setting
« Reply #23 on: December 06, 2003, 02:54:55 am »
Quote:

Thanks for your help. The 80C cable worked. I now have ATA133 (at least nominally). My computer is noticably quicker at moving files about and loading stuff.  




No problem - if you haven't seen them before, there is no reason you would know about them.