Topic: Another review of Galactica 2003

[CptCastrin]

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I believe that complaint about a 40-50 year war in the miniseries is that it was 1000 yahrens in the original.  

D'oh! Forgot about that ... but what is a "yahrens"? Did they ever define it as a "year" or was it just some doppy "stardate" rip off? Honestly I'm not a fan boy of BSG (though I do like it) so I'm hopeful that some one can answer that.

   

[CptCastrin]

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What DM said. The Lizards-making-robots-that-killed-them-and-now-want-to-kill-us schtick is at least a new twist on the alien conquest theme, which still has not been beaten to death as badly as the Blade Runner/Terminator/Matrix/insertyourfavorite60'sscifistoryhere theme.

The "lizard" theory was mostly fanboy stuff. AFAIK the cylons were always cybernectic / robotic in nature and didn't have any lizard inside piloting it around. Now there was one thing that fed the lizard theory and that was the look of the "Imperious Leader". I won't get into the counter theories but I can understand where they all came from. Guess that's what you get for only having 1 season to draw from.  

As for one being over done than the other, that's an opinion. Remember there is more than just the last 10 years to draw from (though I see a nod to the 60s pulf horror / scifi films). However I will take exception to the inclusion of Blade Runner in that list, it never refered to the replicates as wanting to take over Earth. The rest are fine though.  

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The 1000 yahren history of the war may have seemed a little fantastic, but it gives you a yearning to learn more about the history of said war. Ditto the  Galactica itself, which has supposedly been around for 600 or so years herself.

40 years? Yawn.  

Well I give you that but then in the 70's no one had heard of "space junk" and the damamge it could cause. Nor had there been any real scentific information on what kind of ware and tear objects take when travaling through open space (orbital space is quite different than that which lies between earth and other planets).

But that's all just fine. 40 years or 400 yahren ... either works for me.

   

[BortaS]

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What DM said. The Lizards-making-robots-that-killed-them-and-now-want-to-kill-us schtick is at least a new twist on the alien conquest theme, which still has not been beaten to death as badly as the Blade Runner/Terminator/Matrix/insertyourfavorite60'sscifistoryhere theme.

The "lizard" theory was mostly fanboy stuff. AFAIK the cylons were always cybernectic / robotic in nature and didn't have any lizard inside piloting it around. Now there was one thing that fed the lizard theory and that was the look of the "Imperious Leader". I won't get into the counter theories but I can understand where they all came from. Guess that's what you get for only having 1 season to draw from.  

As for one being over done than the other, that's an opinion. Remember there is more than just the last 10 years to draw from (though I see a nod to the 60s pulf horror / scifi films). However I will take exception to the inclusion of Blade Runner in that list, it never refered to the replicates as wanting to take over Earth. The rest are fine though.  

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The 1000 yahren history of the war may have seemed a little fantastic, but it gives you a yearning to learn more about the history of said war. Ditto the  Galactica itself, which has supposedly been around for 600 or so years herself.

40 years? Yawn.  

Well I give you that but then in the 70's no one had heard of "space junk" and the damamge it could cause. Nor had there been any real scentific information on what kind of ware and tear objects take when travaling through open space (orbital space is quite different than that which lies between earth and other planets).

But that's all just fine. 40 years or 400 yahren ... either works for me.

     

There was an episode where they explained that the cylons were once reptiles and were killed by thier machines.   The imperial  leader according to books wore the skin of one of the lizards around his machine body.

[Death_Merchant]

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There was an episode where they explained that the cylons were once reptiles and were killed by thier machines.   The imperial  leader according to books wore the skin of one of the lizards around his machine body.  

I don't know about the second sentence, but the first was explained in a scene from the pilot (part 2 of "Saga of a Starworld" I believe). Apollo explained this to Boxey (his first of many stow-aways...) in a Land Ram on Carillon as they approached the casino.  

[EmeraldEdge]

Heh, it's been a while since I saw it, but I knew there was something official that told what the cylons were.  Funny, the guy couldn't even be bothered to watch the Pilot of the original series.  OUCH.  No wonder it strayed so far.  Looks like they didn't bother to give the original a chance at all.  

[S'Raek]

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<snip> Do current naval vessels use these types of phones?  I only saw reference to using these phones in industrial plants, and for visitation phones in correctional facilities.  </snip>  

Yes, current U.S. Navy vessels use sound powered phones.  Mainly for fire-fighting situations, but also for other types of inter-ship communications.  Many moons ago I used to get to sit in my squadron's ready room and listen to the chatter on the sound powered phones and record when our planes took off and landed.  (To track flight hours.)    

[Death_Merchant]

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Heh, it's been a while since I saw it, but I knew there was something official that told what the cylons were.  Funny, the guy couldn't even be bothered to watch the Pilot of the original series.  OUCH.  No wonder it strayed so far.  Looks like they didn't bother to give the original a chance at all.  

In "Lowdown" and in online interviews, Moore says he rewatched Saga and was struck by how dark and effective the first part (destruction of the Colonies and the initial exodus) was. He then criticized how quickly the Colonials seemed to forget all that and start gambling on Carillon. I guess he missed/forgot/didn't care about that small Apollo/Boxey scene with the short Cylon origin chat.

From http://www.scifi.com/battlestar/updates/extras/scifimag2.html
 "When I sat down and re-watched the original pilot," Moore says, "I was struck by the fact that, at its core, Galactica had a very, very dark premise. It may be the darkest premise of any pilot I've ever seen."

As in Moore's version, the original series begins with the destruction of its characters' entire civilization. "Our heroes are running away in the pilot," says Moore. "Their families are destroyed, their friends, their world. Everything they know has been destroyed by the Cylons, and they have to escape into these vessels and hunt for what might be a mythical planet for new hope."

Having established that dark premise, though, the original series seemed immediately to back away from it in favor of a more traditional action-adventure motif. "Even in the two-hour pilot, they play a couple beats of 'Oh my God, our homes are gone,' which are really pretty effective," says Moore. "But then the second half of the pilot is taken over by the casino planet, and everybody seems to have forgotten what happened just moments ago!"
 

[Rat_Boy]

Good news or bad news, depending on your opinion: TV Guide gushed over the new series, with one of their reviewers giving it a 9 out of ten and their pink movie section gives both hours 3 out of 4 stars.