Topic: Enterprise: Xindi story arc to be reset? (Read 14170 times)

Death_Merchant · « **on:** December 01, 2003, 01:06:16 pm »

Am I the only one who noticed the throwaway line by time-traveling Daniels in "Carpenter Street"?

"The conflict between humanity and the Xindi was not supposed to happen." ...or words to that effect.

Will the whole series be hit with the "reset button" upon conclusion of the Xindi arc?

Rat_Boy · « **Reply #1 on:** December 01, 2003, 01:14:20 pm »

Well, there are rumors about the Patrick Duffy and Victoria Principal cameos later in the season...

Death_Merchant · « **Reply #2 on:** December 01, 2003, 01:18:23 pm »

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Well, there are rumors about the Patrick Duffy and Victoria Principal cameos later in the season...

A Xindi shot JR???? That would explain the look on his face

Gambler · « **Reply #3 on:** December 01, 2003, 01:25:26 pm »

It's cheap, it's cheesey, it sounds about right. Like the year of hell or whatever on Voyager.

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #8 on:** December 01, 2003, 02:26:39 pm »

Didn't Daniels say that it wasn't supposed to happen, when this whole thing got underway too? Of course this whole thing is going to be a reset switch type situation, it can't be anything else, imo. If you ask me though, the whole setup for the episode was rediculous. It takes time for a change in the past to ripple up to the later time and register? How much time, and why? What's the deal with that, and since they are time traveling, don't they have all the time in the world to setup a party to go back and nuke the problem? What's with the "it took so much time to get approval just for me to make contact with you, but there isn't time for...." I even if time was a factor (which it shouldn't be, since they are dealing with going back and fixing a problem that apparently didn't wipe them out entirely) wouldn't it take more time to get approval to use their equipment to send Archer and another person (a person who was relatively uncontaminated by the idea of time travel 'til now, mind you) than it would for Daniels and a couple of other agents to go back and fix the problem themselves? Just doesn't wash, if you ask me (the episode was pretty good, except for a few of those things, but since the core was bad...

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Their time travel writing is lazy/sloppy to the extreme, and they need to just let it die out after they finish the Xindi thing, and move back to something simpler, like the Vulcan/Andorian thing, but they clearly MUST do these things, especially since they don't have a holodeck to do their little throw away stories with because they don't have what it takes to build a larger scale story that doesn't need over half a season of filler or episodes which only partially pertain to the overall storyline. Oh, well.

Daew Anahos · « **Reply #9 on:** December 01, 2003, 04:15:44 pm »

If they aren't going to do a reset, I'd be very interested in how they are going to explain everything.

The main clue is in the pilot and the whole Temporal Cold War deal. They are giving themselves a way out from the get go.

Nuff said.

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #12 on:** December 01, 2003, 04:55:27 pm »

Personally, I don't have a problem with the reset situation in this instance, the problem is that they use it SO MUCH, that most of the episodes end up meaning absolutely nothing at all in the long run, which may be better because they don't seem to know the meaning of the word continuity anyway.

Dogmatix! · « **Reply #14 on:** December 01, 2003, 05:57:29 pm »

A season of the Federation/Romulan War = Teh W1N!!!!!!!1!!!!11!!

Please...get to it already...stop with the time travel nonsense! They clearly aren't up to it!

Still...Leland Orser was cool...

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #15 on:** December 01, 2003, 06:03:51 pm »

I'm sure the logic is...

StarTrekIV was the most popular movie
StarTrekIV involved time travel
Trek fans (and the wider viewing public) want to see time travel.

We should all be thanking whatever God's we believe in that B&B didn't take saving the whales as the reason, lol.

We'd be seeing countless episodes of whales everywhere (Hey, wasn't one of those Xindi a whale like race? Hmmm...

), and a giant whale republic that are brought to near extinction and now the Enterprise must find a way to save the whales and Earth at the same time.

Confused?? · « **Reply #16 on:** December 01, 2003, 06:28:53 pm »

Maybe they use a partial reset. In that everything outside the expanse is reset. Enterprise comes out a finds Earth in an alliance in with the Andorians etc in a war against te Romulans.
Or maybe TOS etc is the divergant timeline??
There's so many possible ways to go.I'm in the UK so I will not see these until next year, but I found Early TNG to be three long series of duff episodes. You just got to have faith that these things will work out.

Death_Merchant · « **Reply #17 on:** December 02, 2003, 12:10:59 pm »

I'm actually hoping for a reset. Why not?

Make everything after Broken Bow (including the early Klingon contact) vanish. IMHO, the only continuity loss would be the Andorian episodes.

Wanna bet B&B do an "X-Files"? ie Jerk the story arc around to please the fans, then claim it was the plan all along....

EmeraldEdge · « **Reply #18 on:** December 02, 2003, 12:17:16 pm »

Of course they've already done that to a degree. They did this whole Xindi (whole new direction, and more action, etc.) thing claiming it was always planned, and not a reaction to sagging ratings, and loss of core fanbase. heh.

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